I'm thinking Sanders going negative on social media will backfire.

[crazytown]

Unlike 2016, a competitor or two will call him out during the debates. It would be better to target Bloomberg IMHO.

[BeyondGeography]

1. We have a lot of great Sanders supporters here

But in the flaming asshole category on social media, Sanders supporters win by a mile.

It’s the thing I like least about Bernie, tbh. His apparent inability to set an example for his little Robespierres and his utter lack of interest in the consequences of their behavior.

[crazytown]

3. I remember Bernie saying he was sick to death of emails

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during a debate. It was an opportunity lost. Surrogates poisoned the well in 2016, and that legacy continues to cripple his appeal this year.

[Happy Hoosier]

7. If his surrogates had taken that line...

... he would have done better.

But Bernie knows what his people are saying and doesn't care.

His staff is filled with terrible people. I can't support him in the primary. His judgement is awful on that point. I fear that if nominated, he'd staff up the DNC with people like that and the party would be electorally stomped on for a generation.

[PatSeg]

13. Yes

And if that is the kind of people he staffs his campaign with, what kind of people will comprise his cabinet? Sanders has some persuasive ideas and convincing rhetoric, but I don't think he has the judgment or disposition of a president.

I've always seen Sanders as an activist, an important and necessary voice, but I never really saw him in the Oval Office. There are so many ways to serve and not everyone can or should be president.

[Happy Hoosier]

14. We agree.

But honestly, I think Liz Warren is a better advocate for most of those ideas than he is. Just my opinion.

[PatSeg]

15. I think so too

I find her far more persuasive and relatable. Plus she is wicked smart. I really can't take the nonstop angry yelling all the time. Sanders needs to dial it down, people are exhausted.

[trueblue2007]

17. I AGREE WITH YOU. I don't think he has the judgment or disposition of a president.

[PatSeg]

18. If his campaign staff is any indication,

his White House staff and cabinet could be a nightmare.

[samnsara]

6. last election too that totally turned me off. i still remember those images...Sanders ppl..

...tossing cash at HRCs car when she arrived at a fund raiser.. the taunting of the young WOC as she ran past them. I couldnt figure out what side they were on. A surrogate calling HRC a 'Cooporate Whore' and having 20,000 kids cheer that on. For shame!! We were all supposed to be on the same side..but i wondered.

Sanders could not control these followers..or would not control them. Hows he going to control an unruly Congress? I saw NO leadership skills demonstrated..just the skill to incite.

imho..

[bluedye33139]

8. This cycle has been better. No one has told me that I need to die

or that America will only get better when I and everybody in my generation is dead. That was kind of a weird message in 2016.

[BeyondGeography]

9. Unity is in the air!

[R B Garr]

10. That one is still around! Saw it the other day.

Sanders, at 78 and a recent heart attack, escapes our fate, though.

[melman]

2. Call him out for what?

Telling the truth? Yeah, okay. Good luck with that.

[crazytown]

4. For things like the two trumps photo.

Equating Democrats with trump has limited appeal outside Twitter.

[melman]

5. When did he do that?

Let's see the receipts as they say.

[beastie boy]

11. He has nothing to lose.

He is barely hanging on to #2, and his message doesn't resonate beyond his core base. The only thing Bernie is left with is energize the base with attacks on the front runner (Biden just happens to be one, but if there was anyone else at the top, things wouldn't change. If Bloomberg were the front runner, he would have been subject to Bernie's wrath).

The only thing Bernie may do differently is start going after Warren. Warren, having learned that going after Biden as she did with M4A is a losing strategy, doesn't seem to be inclined to do it again. She now takes great care to be non-confrontational with all the candidates, and as a consequence, I wouldn't be surprised if her approval rises. She has room to grow while Bernie doesn't, and that makes her a threat to Bernie. She is the only candidate who has the potential to chip away at Bernie's core support, and that makes her more dangerous to Bernie than Biden is.

[George II]

12. You're right, and it already has. Years ago in Philadelphia David Sirota was an unknown, now....

Here in 2020 everyone knows him, and he's not getting away with what he has in the past. Nor is Turner, nor is Gray, nor is Sarandon, and the list goes on.

[TexasTowelie]

16. K&R! nt

[Cha]

19. It should.. I sure as hell hope it does.

[betsuni]

20. K&R

[Gothmog]

21. You can tell that the progressives are losing by these attacks

Progressives play whack-a-Joe with Biden
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/08/progressives-pre-iowa-assault-biden-095934

Steve Schale, the head of a super PAC dedicated to helping Biden win, said the polls tell the story of why progressives are suddenly targeting Biden.

“We’re in the last 30 days of the campaign, and that’s when people who are losing start attacking,” Schale said. “It’s not surprising they’ve taken more of a negative turn when they realized that Joe Biden after basically a year of being attacked is still the frontrunner.”

These attacks amuse me