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DMR/Iowa poll: Down goes Buttigieg (Original Post) BeyondGeography Jan 2020 OP
Warren is back! bluewater Jan 2020 #1
in *Howard Cossel voice* :) Kurt V. Jan 2020 #2
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2020 #3
Bad News for Mayor Pete ritapria Jan 2020 #4
Mayor Pete has a strong ground game in Iowa. bluewater Jan 2020 #17
Wow fickle Iowa this IA race keeps going all over the place since it started lunasun Jan 2020 #5
MOE of 3.7 so it's pretty much a statistical tie. Their previous poll showing Buttigieg leading highplainsdem Jan 2020 #6
Biden in 4th. crazytown Jan 2020 #9
But Sanders is at only 20%, which is the lowest support for the front-runner in this poll all year, highplainsdem Jan 2020 #10
Here is the way I see it. crazytown Jan 2020 #16
Timing is everything. bluewater Jan 2020 #21
LOL! Even with this "boom" factored in, Biden trails Sanderss by only 7/10 of 1% in 538's Iowa poll highplainsdem Jan 2020 #22
He's about to get a taste of what Buttigieg, Warren, and Biden have been facing. SaschaHM Jan 2020 #24
Keep in mind that 11% are undecided still_one Jan 2020 #28
I haven't forgotten. And I suspect that the fact Biden's usually seen as most electable will tend highplainsdem Jan 2020 #30
Only one poll BeyondGeography Jan 2020 #12
Biden has a lot more ads on IA TV now. crazytown Jan 2020 #20
Great points BeyondGeography Jan 2020 #31
Biden on the 15% bubble in this blue ribbon poll. bluewater Jan 2020 #14
This is the widely acknowledged BLUE RIBBON gold standard of Iowa Polls. bluewater Jan 2020 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author bluewater Jan 2020 #15
No they aren't dsc Jan 2020 #18
Thank you. I know that but keep forgetting it when I post in a rush. lol bluewater Jan 2020 #19
sad evertonfc Jan 2020 #7
Warren and Sanders do very well with younger voters BeyondGeography Jan 2020 #8
Bingo! Champion Jack Jan 2020 #11
Sanders and Warren will do well with the millions left Prosper Jan 2020 #27
Bernie's about to get the frontrunner treatment. SaschaHM Jan 2020 #23
Bernie has had many many years of being attacked and defending his beliefs. Prosper Jan 2020 #29
K&R HeartlandProgressive Jan 2020 #25
What this tells me is it is still very volatile, and it can be anyone of the top tier candidates still_one Jan 2020 #26
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
1. Warren is back!
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 07:05 PM
Jan 2020

Nice to see her in a strong position going into the caucus.

And Sanders... woah, Sanders +5 jumps into the lead at 20%!


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Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
2. in *Howard Cossel voice* :)
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 07:07 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Uncle Joe

(58,348 posts)
3. Kicked and recommended.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 07:09 PM
Jan 2020

Thanks for the thread BeyondGeography.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ritapria

(1,812 posts)
4. Bad News for Mayor Pete
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 07:10 PM
Jan 2020

What happened ? …. I am really surprised by that result ….It is still a very close race for first ..I thought Joe had rebounded in Iowa.... As I wrote earlier , it's still just another poll ...No Big Deal ….DMR has screwed up before ...Selzer is very good but it is impossible to poll Caucuses ...They have made good calls, like they did in 2008, but many foul ups as well .. Bernie is focusing on "non-likely voters" anyway ...Bad news for Amy, too ...If she was going to make a late surge , it would be happening now … Bernie is the only candidate focusing so heavily on the bread and butter issues that move people to caucus on a cold Monday night in February .. Bernie is not doing all the talking ...People who attend his townhalls speak about the terrible financial problems they face - particularly with regard to healthcare ….

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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
17. Mayor Pete has a strong ground game in Iowa.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 07:45 PM
Jan 2020

He will do well in the actual caucus.

Biden though has the weakest ground game of the 4 leaders and at 15% he might just be on the bubble to get no delegates come actual voting.

How embarrassing would THAT be?

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lunasun

(21,646 posts)
5. Wow fickle Iowa this IA race keeps going all over the place since it started
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 07:12 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

highplainsdem

(48,966 posts)
6. MOE of 3.7 so it's pretty much a statistical tie. Their previous poll showing Buttigieg leading
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 07:28 PM
Jan 2020

had his lead well outside the MOE, while the other three were basically tied.

Anyway, one more Iowa poll, with the various Iowa poll results all over, except for the top 4 being well ahead of the others in the race.

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
9. Biden in 4th.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 07:32 PM
Jan 2020

A statistical tie, but it's on the cards.

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highplainsdem

(48,966 posts)
10. But Sanders is at only 20%, which is the lowest support for the front-runner in this poll all year,
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 07:35 PM
Jan 2020

and it's the narrowest range of support for the top 4 candidates, only 5 points.

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
16. Here is the way I see it.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 07:42 PM
Jan 2020

As far as IA goes, upsets matter more than rankings. If Biden was to win big in IA the game would also change big time. If Sanders were to lose badly, ditto.

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Undecided
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
21. Timing is everything.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 08:00 PM
Jan 2020

This acknowledged BLUE RIBBON Des Moine Register poll, the gold standard of all Iowa polls, hits right before the next debate and with less than a month before the caucus itself.

Boom.



Game changer.

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highplainsdem

(48,966 posts)
22. LOL! Even with this "boom" factored in, Biden trails Sanderss by only 7/10 of 1% in 538's Iowa poll
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 08:06 PM
Jan 2020

average.




NOT a game changer.

But keep dreaming...
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SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
24. He's about to get a taste of what Buttigieg, Warren, and Biden have been facing.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 08:08 PM
Jan 2020

Let the scrutiny and targeting begin.

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still_one

(92,126 posts)
28. Keep in mind that 11% are undecided
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 09:18 PM
Jan 2020
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highplainsdem

(48,966 posts)
30. I haven't forgotten. And I suspect that the fact Biden's usually seen as most electable will tend
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 09:23 PM
Jan 2020

to bring him more votes from those people deciding at the last minute.

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BeyondGeography

(39,369 posts)
12. Only one poll
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 07:37 PM
Jan 2020

But Biden worked pretty hard for zero movement in support.

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
20. Biden has a lot more ads on IA TV now.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 07:54 PM
Jan 2020

Buttigieg and Warren made the biggest investments in their ground games. It shows up in polls, but the personal relationships fashioned over time are more still important on caucus night.

Sanders is bragging about his enthusiastic volunteers. Like Obama in 2008, Buttigieg and Warren are playing their cards close to their chest.

One poll ... but a perfect fillip for the guys and gals doing the hard yards, stumping for Elizabeth in Iowa. Behind the NDAs, they know hard work and planning pays offs.

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BeyondGeography

(39,369 posts)
31. Great points
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 09:56 PM
Jan 2020


Positive reinforcement coming at the right time for Team Warren in Iowa after a long stretch of media negativity, although local press there has been less agenda-driven.
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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
14. Biden on the 15% bubble in this blue ribbon poll.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 07:39 PM
Jan 2020

If he can't get 15% at the caucus, he gets no delegates and would be majorly embarrassed.

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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
13. This is the widely acknowledged BLUE RIBBON gold standard of Iowa Polls.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 07:37 PM
Jan 2020

So, please, no sour grapes.

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dsc

(52,155 posts)
18. No they aren't
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 07:47 PM
Jan 2020

note the +/- means it can go either way. Sanders could be as low as 16.3% while Buttigieg could be as high as 19.7%

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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
19. Thank you. I know that but keep forgetting it when I post in a rush. lol
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 07:50 PM
Jan 2020

will self delete.

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evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
7. sad
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 07:28 PM
Jan 2020

It looks like the face of our party is old, white, Washington insiders. Im.sure the youth will relate

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BeyondGeography

(39,369 posts)
8. Warren and Sanders do very well with younger voters
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 07:29 PM
Jan 2020

Much better than the 37-year-old.

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Prosper

(761 posts)
27. Sanders and Warren will do well with the millions left
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 09:17 PM
Jan 2020

behind in our economy’s loss of good paying jobs to businesses moved overseas to take advantage of cheap labor.

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SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
23. Bernie's about to get the frontrunner treatment.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 08:06 PM
Jan 2020

He's going to be the #1 target during the debate and in the weeks leading up to Iowa. Kid gloves are off.

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Prosper

(761 posts)
29. Bernie has had many many years of being attacked and defending his beliefs.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 09:19 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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still_one

(92,126 posts)
26. What this tells me is it is still very volatile, and it can be anyone of the top tier candidates
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 09:16 PM
Jan 2020

That Mayor Pete dropped so quickly to me indicates it can change just as quickly before the caucus

Also the 11% that are not sure can be a game changer

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