Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumAmy Klobuchar Keeps Voting for Trump's 'Horrific' Judges
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But Klobuchar, who ran the largest prosecutors office in Minnesota before being elected to the Senate, has a more complicated history with the judges she dubbed horrific in last months debate. Over the course of the 2017-2018 congressional session, Klobuchar voted to confirm nearly two-thirds of Trumps judicial nominees that came up for a vote, far outpacing every other Democratic senator currently seeking the nomination.
In some cases, Klobuchar was the sole Senate Democrat of the seven who have sought the nomination to vote for the nominee in question. In January 2018, Klobuchar joined just six other Democrats in breaking a party-line vote on the nomination of Judge David Ryan Stras to the U.S. Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals, joining Judiciary Committee Republicans and just one other Democrat to approve the pick.
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In other cases, Klobuchar has been joined by Sen. Michael Bennet of Colorado, who, like Klobuchar, is running a centrist campaign that emphasizes his cross-aisle appeal. One example is the confirmation of Judge Kurt Damian Engelhardt, who in December 2019 ruled in the majority to declare the Affordable Care Acts individual mandate unconstitutionalputting the legislation in danger of being undone by a Supreme Court ruling.
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Klobuchars campaign told The Daily Beast that the senators votes to confirm nominees have dropped in the current congressional term, with Klobuchar voting to confirm less than 40 percent of Trumps judicial nominees over the course of his entire presidency thus far.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/amy-klobuchar-keeps-voting-for-trumps-horrific-judges?ref=scroll
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
melman
(7,681 posts)Not good at all.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)when Bernie votes with his fellow Democrats far more often then moderate Democrats, like Klobuchar. Makes ZERO sense!!
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)If you think that pointing out that fact is "bashing," then perhaps you need to re-examine your choice of candidate.
So, do you think that Bernie isn't being honest here?
"No, I'm an Independent," Sanders said when asked by MSNBC's Chris Hayes whether he now identifies as a Democrat.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/329418-sanders-i-do-not-consider-myself-a-democrat
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....in the Senate in 2019, his last vote was on June 28, the 189th vote of the session. There were 239 votes after that, he missed each and every one. He wasn't seen in the Senate chamber for more than SIX months!
So, he clearly did NOT vote "with his fellow" (a mischaracterization) Democrats" more than 50% of the time. Klobuchar voted against MORE of those nominations than he did. She was there, he wasn't. You can look it up:
https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/vote_menu_116_1.htm
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,835 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,478 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(49,034 posts)punishment, since he's an expert on that, but that's NOT the same thing as belonging to the group.
I'm glad you pointed out this was just a rumor.
Wikipedia article on her husband:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bessler
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)Im sure there is more to all these types of stories than the headline by an undecided.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dem4decades
(11,304 posts)S
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,835 posts)She's one of my Senators. My main criticism of her as a Senator is that she has often seemed too cautious, although her votes have been reliably liberal. She seems to have grown a spine as a presidential candidate, but that's my observation of her as a Senator.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)state.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eliot Rosewater
(31,121 posts)to use it here.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,835 posts)those old Communist denunciations along the lines of "running dog lackey of capitalist imperialism" or "bourgeois traitor to the proletariat" - in other words, intended to imply that someone has not adequately toed the "progressive" party line. When did it become unacceptable not to be extreme?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(14,047 posts)as centrists and moderates, no point in denying it. Although I dont think any of our current candidates fit that label. Theyre all liberals and progressives this time around. But some, like Bill Clinton were moderate while others, like Joe Manchin, are center-right, IMO.
I do agree that corporate Democrat is a bullshit slur.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eliot Rosewater
(31,121 posts)the political curve is constantly changing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redqueen
(115,103 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Eliot Rosewater
(31,121 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LonePirate
(13,431 posts)I'm not sure what that makes Klobuchar other than someone I refuse to support during the primary and I hope to hell she does not win the nomination.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....67-27, almost one-third have had at least 80 votes. It's unfair to dump this on Klobuchar only. Obviously a lot of other Democrats have voted for confirmation, too.
At least she was there for many of those votes.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)nearly lost Minnesota last time. Some have no understanding of mid west states and neither do their candidates who are very likely to lose a general if they are the nominee
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Doremus
(7,261 posts)I live in a midwest state and thoroughly understand that Trump won by 80k votes in 3 rust belt states.
Our moderate candidate didn't get them to the polls.
I hope we don't make the same mistake again.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie, with his bold progressive agenda, will get working class voters to the polls in droves and clobber tRumpty Dumbty... a moderate incrementalist approach will just give us 4 more years of President Pig Vomit!!
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)made Hillary the winner in all the important states...and Hillary barely lost...how do you suppose Warren's signing onto Trump's new NAFTA will play in the Mid West? Will that excite the voters? How about Sanders healthcare which destroys hard won great union healthcare...my son won't vote for Sanders in the primary because of it. 16 was not about moderate vs liberal candidates...it was about the left/ greens taking down a Democratic nominee with a bit of help from the Russians...the Russian princess Jill Stein did her job.
I will vote for Biden because he can win the states we need Mi,WI and PA. Also he has the experience to fix the damage caused by Trump and maybe get some stuff done if we get the Senate. I live in Ohio which Biden could take by the way but the others...never. Not only will your 'exciting; candidates not win the general but they will probably cost us Virginia, the House and the Senate as well. The Mid West is not progressive and we need to win big with AA voters there also. Neither Warren nor Sanders can do that IMHO...so you know what I for one am sick of 'excitement'. I want a fucking win...I want a God Damn moving truck taking all Trump's shit and his creepy grifter family to his shit hole resort in Florida or maybe San Quentin would be better...I want that fucking wannabe dictator murderer gone. And I am damned excited to see that rat bastard go. So that is what I find exciting.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)"Obviously a lot of other Democrats have voted for confirmation, too."
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Bluepinky
(2,276 posts)If these conservative judges had enough votes from Republicans to win anyway, she may have voted for them to maintain her moderate base. Some of the Democrats do this as a strategic move. I dont necessarily like it, but I see why they do it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
judeling
(1,086 posts)The thing about Amy is she does play the game. You don't get to be by many measures the most effective Senator of your generation without actually playing the game. Using a useless vote is one tool.
That is what you would get if you got her. Someone willing to play the game to get things done. The difference would be she was setting the agenda.
It is one of the main reasons I support her. More actual progress will get done with her then anyone else.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Bluepinky
(2,276 posts)Wish she was more progressive, but she may be the one to beat Republicans in some of the hard to win Midwestern states.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)And Nope. We're good and her chances of winning Iowa are none or cracking 15%. She'll be leaving soon going back to the Senate or Minnesota.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Scruffy1
(3,256 posts)I like her a lot, but her record is pretty much Republican light. This is how she gets big vote numbers in Minnesota, but it's not going to cut it in the presidential race. I think her supporters will probably mostly go to Joe.Iowa and Minnesota are joined at the hip and if she can't get some decent sdhowing there it's time to go home.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Turin_C3PO
(14,047 posts)Thats a slur and very close to both siderism.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)Please... Dont give that bs I like her a lot (you even say) then proceed to call her Republican light.
Then the joined at the Hip bit.
Yeah, you like her a lot.
That is just crap.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Owens
(202 posts)She tends to be a poll watcher when the issue of gay marriage came up in Minnesota, she waited till the polls tilted favorably for gay marriage then announced she was pro-gay marriage. A true leader would believe in something, even if unpopular. Her silence spoke volumes.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)addressed the police chief thing which I never put in OP's because we should not attack our own.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Will be going to the White House as Bidens VP.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)Makes a lot of sense.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)The only woman in the primaries that I think could gain votes in the MidWest.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
question everything
(47,531 posts)We never heard about this but I think that Garland was the most visible act of the turtle. Obama left with many offices not filled and I think that the turtle blocked them all.
Thus I think, I dont really know, that Klobuchar concluded that filling these offices with otherwise qualified judges was important.
This is, again, why I think that taking control of the Senate is more important.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AZ8theist
(5,492 posts)The TRAITOR occupying the White House proposes....
Is beyond me.
There should be one, AND ONLY ONE response to anything this traitorous piece of shit proposes: NO. FUCKING HELL NO.
Donald, you are ILLEGITIMATE you fucking Putin boot licker. GO. FUCK. YOURSELF.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)Minnesota is a purple state we almost lost it in 16...she has to to win statewide not in some safe blue district where no matter who runs we keep the seat. What is the point of making her vote against judges who will get on the court anyway? We can't stop the judges...that ship sailed in November of 16 and some on Dailay Kos who whined about Hillary and encouraged voting for Stein are to blame not Amy. We lose her seat we get no judges because we don't get the senate...this sort of thing makes me sick. Amy isn't even close to whoever you support Sanders,Buttigieg or Warren I suppose so why this?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
question everything
(47,531 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)At least I've always assumed they're male, sorry if incorrect
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Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)had an effect. And thank you for the compliment...very kind.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)I really don't have the stomach a lot of times to wade into the internecine squabbling happening in this particular forum, it distresses me too much.
However, when I deign to do so, I very often find you in them, making the very points that I would be making. Fighting the good fight as it were.
So, thanks for saving me a lot of time and trouble
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)I feel the same about Mr L as well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)to do this to any candidate would be wrong. We are at the end of the primary all on the same side.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)These candidates are real people with real constituents. There is a diversity in the states that our Democratic Senators have to work towards satisfying.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)It means nothing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)From the article, last paragraph:
The fact that Senator Sanders and then-Senator Biden also supported [the other circuit court] judge who wrote the opinion to strike down the Affordable Care Acts individual mandate demonstrates what Senator Klobuchar said on the debate stage: you are not going to agree with every decision a judge makes, a campaign spokesperson said.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)available for either Amy or Biden to peruse...so now we hold future rulings against those who vote for a judge? That is silly...and up until Obama...the president mostly got his judges.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
question everything
(47,531 posts)But not a peep here..
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redqueen
(115,103 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)in an effort to discredit her. Many of his courts picks have received affirmative votes from Democratic senators, not just Senator Klobuchar. If she were to get the nomination, I would have no problem with voting for her in the general.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden