The generational gap among black Democrats is very revealing

[bluewater]

Link to tweet

Interesting.

So...

Sanders + Warren have 48% of Black Democrats age 18 to 34 to Biden's 30%

Sanders + Warren have 31% of Black Democrats age 35 to 49 to Biden's 41%

That leaves open the possibility the age 50-64 bracket might be persuadable away from Biden by younger family members.

Time will tell if early voting results from Iowa and New Hampshire have an effect on this dynamic.

[guillaumeb]

1. And if these younger voters ever vote as reliably as older voters,

what is seen as achievable will change.

[The Valley Below]

2. Proof that wisdom comes with life experience.

[Uncle Joe]

5. Wisdom comes from knowledge.

(snip)

To gain knowledge, one has to spend time and effort to know things by reading, listening, seeing, experiencing, studying, and getting familiar with certain things. Without interest or passion, one can hardly acquire knowledge.

To gain wisdom, one has to have knowledge first, and then use conviction to make a good judgment out of that knowledge. Without strength, courage, and confidence to make a decision, one cannot gain wisdom. No matter how intelligent or knowledgeable a person is, if he cannot distinguish what is right or wrong, he cannot be considered as a wise person.

To gain understanding, one has to have both knowledge and wisdom first, and then put them into action. He has to know, make a choice, and then practice that choice he has made. Without practicing and executing one’s knowledge and choice, he cannot truly understand or realize them. In order to have wisdom, you have to walk your talk. You have to do what is right, not just know it or judge it.

To gain insight, one has to have all of the above: knowledge, wisdom, and understanding. By persistently practicing and reflecting on them, one can gain insight and have more certainty of the future. Without patience, self-control, perseverance, and consistency, you can hardly develop insight.

(snip)

https://inspiringtips.com/knowledge-wisdom-understanding-and-insight-what-are-the-differences/

[bluewater]

6. Thank you for sharing this, Uncle Joe.

bookmarked.

[Sloumeau]

7. Actually, wisdom is a combination of knowledge, experience and good judgement.

In addition, all of that takes time. I am a heck of a lot wiser now than I was long ago. The idea of wisdom is usually associated with age because while the smartest of the young can learn a lot in a short time, those with the most experience are usually the oldest. So, while the young may have one part of wisdom..they usually lack the experience that comes with it.

What's the difference between the 26-year-old medical school graduate and wannabe surgeon and the 46-year-old surgeon? About 20 years of experience. If you don't think that experience makes a difference, ask yourself who you want to be operating on you.

[Skya Rhen]

17. Boom!

[jcmaine72]

9. Excellent post.

[The Valley Below]

13. Thanks for making my point for me.

To gain knowledge, one has to spend time and effort to know things by reading, listening, seeing, experiencing, studying, and getting familiar with certain things.

As young people grow up they will hopefully spend time growing, seeing, thinking, and experiencing life.

It is universally easy for people, especially young people who lack the knowledge that comes with life experience, to become inflamed, angry, and driven by rage, especially when such emotions are encouraged by populist demagogues. Every dictatorship has manipulated precisely this type of rage for their own ends.

With time mature people develop patience, self-control, and more nuanced views based on reason.

Liberalism rests on having a populace that is firmly grounded in an attachment to cool-headed reason. Which is what makes anger-based populism a threat to democracies around the world, both on the far-right and on the far-left.

[Bradshaw3]

27. Patronizing load of baloney

Really? Drumph got 52 percent of the vote from those 65 and older in 2016 and his rating among them now is higher than with other demographics. So does that show a "more nuanced views based on reason" from those older voters?

Your anecdotal take to the contrary, I can match. I live in a senior community and am around older peope a lot. My conclusion is that people get crazier as they get older and definitely more tribal.

[BlueWI]

30. THIS.

Looking around the state of politics today, we middle aged and up people haven't exactly shown evidence of this enduring wisdom. Young people are being left to clean up some very big messes.

[Bradshaw3]

32. Yes they are

And there are many younger people who have infinitely more wisdom than all the oldsters who think that just by virtue of age they are smarter.

[ehrnst]

24. Only if one thinks one has something to learn...

Otherwise, one simply waits for others to finish, to continue pontificating, instead of listening.

True growth comes from being open to the idea that you might be surprised... or wrong about the facts.

I look for that in a politician, because otherwise, they are really nothing more than an authoritarian.

[Quixote1818]

12. Then why are most Trump supporters so old? LOL nt

[ChubbyStar]

16. That was perfect!

[beastie boy]

19. Causation and correlation.

Age doesn't cause wisdom, age is necessary to gain wisdom. But only if one seeks it.

[The Valley Below]

20. Precisely. One needs to seek knowledge, wisdom and reason to grow into...

a mature well-thinking person.

The liberal political philosophy encourages just such a journey. Populism and reactionary ideologies based on hated of "the other" do precisely the opposite.

[Mariana]

29. The poster didn't say all of that.

The poster said, "Proof that wisdom comes with life experience." Yet, the majority of voters with the most life experience cast their ballots for Trump.

[Mariana]

28. Wisdom comes with life experience.

How groups voted in 2016 - AGE

18-29 Clinton 55% Trump 36%
30-44 Clinton 51% Trump 41%
45-64 Clinton 44% Trump 52%
65&up Clinton 45% Trump 52%

https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/how-groups-voted-2016

[Turin_C3PO]

3. Yes,

but young voters don’t participate at high levels. So I think Biden is safe for now. I actually wish the young did vote in high numbers because then every election everywhere would be a Democratic landslide. Plus, climate change, gun regulation, and healthcare would all be fixed.

[BlueWI]

31. If older people didn't vote for Trump in high numbers

the same result would occur. At least young people vote in majorities for the right candidates.

[TidalWave46]

4. Or those with more years behind them might do the swaying. NT

Either way, those are pretty harsh numbers if your name isn't Joe Biden.

[David__77]

8. Bloomberg and Buttigieg do much better among older black voters.

I find that of interest.

[jcmaine72]

11. Bloomberg polling that high (albeit 5-6%) among any African American age group

is genuinely baffling to me. He was Mr. Stop-n-Frisk during his entire lamentable 12-year reign as mayor of NYC. He's certainly no friend of the African American community by any stretch of the imagination.

[lunasun]

26. Tv ads and appearances like this maybe

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1078&pid=45280

Im in Chicago
I know nothing about his history except what i see on his many ads and news stories like in the link above
I do not think I am alone in not following him as mayor of NYC in the past and being unaware of his problems.
We have enough in our own city to keep tabs on so it may be many elsewhere do not know about his years as mayor or bad policies

[George II]

10. So Biden has an overall lead of 48-20 over Sanders. That shows the power of the top three....

....age groups vs. the youngest age group.

[crazytown]

14. Biden is weaker with African Americans than HRC 2016

[totodeinhere]

15. That generational gap exists among all ethnic groups, not just African Americans.

Bernie is also the first choice among younger whites, Asian Americans and Hispanic Americans. So if it turns out that Bernie is not the nominee we will need him to bring his younger supporters along for the general election because we will need every vote we can get in swing states including young voters.

[Hortensis]

18. 50-64s moving to a socialist who didn't vote during the civil rights

era because, as he said, he saw nothing to vote for between the Republican and Democrats?

Maybe a few weak minds influenced by the blizzard of agitprop. Our elections have become battlegrounds in a planetary war, our nation nuked with propaganda. But this age cohort in any race pretty much know what they think, and that goes double for older AA for whom life has required keeping both feet on the ground.

[bluewater]

22. or 50-64 y/o Afican American voters moving to Elizabeth Warren?

That would seem possible if she exceeds expectations in Iowa and New Hampshire and Biden underperforms by finishing 4th in one or both.

[Hortensis]

23. Some might, who knows. We'll see.

[Demsrule86]

25. I don't think Iowa or New Hampshire matter in this case. In 08, they liked Obama. But I don't think

Warren is known or liked particularly...not being mean...I just don't think Iowa matters nor New Hampshire this time. AA voters needed to see if White people would vote for Obama and when they did they moved to a candidate they already knew and liked. Now if Warren is not one of the top two than I think she may be in trouble down the line and maybe she needs to win one of the two...my personal opinion is Buttigieg is gone no matter- what win or lose. Biden is not expected to win either Iowa or New Hampshire so if he did it would be a big deal but it won't hurt him if he doesn't. If he is close all the better-it helps...however, he needs to win big in South Carolina.