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lees1975

(3,859 posts)
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 08:55 PM Jan 2020

Democrats need a unity pledge

We CANNOT afford or endure four more years of stupid in the White House. Like everyone else, I have my list of preferences when it comes to government and policy and the candidates who promote them. But I will vote for the Democratic nominee, whoever it is regardless of their list of preferential issues. This isn't rocket science. 60% of the likely voters in this country don't want to vote for the orange headed buffoon. The Democrats need to give every person in that 60% someone they can vote for.

Do we have to come up with a pledge? There isn't anything Democrats stand for that will survive a second Trump term. You get nothing if he's re-elected.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Democrats need a unity pledge (Original Post) lees1975 Jan 2020 OP
When I watch the Democratic candidate debates... Jeebo Jan 2020 #1
Isn't that akin to saying the sun rises in the East?! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #28
We have one. In fact one of the candidates "challenged" the others to sign it, and that candidate... George II Jan 2020 #2
Just stop Rollerman Jan 2020 #4
You're talking to the wrong person. George II Jan 2020 #5
You "just stop".. we will report FACTS whether you like Cha Jan 2020 #15
This is the truth. Skidmore Jan 2020 #17
When you start viewing.... TidalWave46 Jan 2020 #22
OK for thee but not for me mcar Jan 2020 #9
Ar you under the impression that anyone doesn't agree with that point? brooklynite Jan 2020 #3
Campaign rhetoric suggests it lees1975 Jan 2020 #11
There are two points made in the op. TidalWave46 Jan 2020 #23
Then we need to discourage the snarky bullcrap. redqueen Jan 2020 #6
Well said! lees1975 Jan 2020 #12
No way is this helping us. nilesobek Jan 2020 #14
Let's keep our thinking clear: tRUMP CAN'T BE RE-ELECTED SINCE HE WAS NEVER ELECTED abqtommy Jan 2020 #7
I pledge to unify my boot with your ass... LuvLoogie Jan 2020 #8
... George II Jan 2020 #10
. TidalWave46 Jan 2020 #24
Perfect. dware Jan 2020 #25
I am hoping for a positive message question everything Jan 2020 #13
You of course mean the Social Democrat! whistler162 Jan 2020 #16
Right we have to give folks who are NOT Dem's someone they can vote for and that is BIDEN. UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #18
:) Chill. Good citizens are like the very elderly Georgia farmer who Hortensis Jan 2020 #19
No. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2020 #20
No thanks. TidalWave46 Jan 2020 #21
What we need is a doctrine randr Jan 2020 #26
Republicans already have their unity pledge... keithbvadu2 Jan 2020 #27
 

Jeebo

(2,023 posts)
1. When I watch the Democratic candidate debates...
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 09:01 PM
Jan 2020

...I keep hoping every candidate prefaces his/her comments with this statement: "I think we all will agree that the most important thing is that we win back the White House from that con man who currently holds the office. WHOEVER wins the Democratic nomination is a hundred times better than what we have now."

-- Ron

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
28. Isn't that akin to saying the sun rises in the East?!
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 11:31 AM
Jan 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
2. We have one. In fact one of the candidates "challenged" the others to sign it, and that candidate...
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 09:01 PM
Jan 2020

...was the first to break it AND has violated it more than probably all the others combined.

Just like he "challenged" all the candidates to swear off Super PACs, and now has six or seven of them supporting him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Rollerman

(42 posts)
4. Just stop
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 09:07 PM
Jan 2020

The divisive rhetoric needs to stop. Expand and support your candidate’s policies, but tearing down the other candidates drives their supporters back to the sidelines if yours’ wins the nomination.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
5. You're talking to the wrong person.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 09:10 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,222 posts)
15. You "just stop".. we will report FACTS whether you like
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 04:56 AM
Jan 2020

it or not.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
17. This is the truth.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 06:04 AM
Jan 2020

Why should he be trusted to honor any pledge when so many were broken by Sanders himself.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
22. When you start viewing....
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 10:21 AM
Jan 2020

An honest discussion about the actions of the person you support as being "divisive"...........

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mcar

(42,331 posts)
9. OK for thee but not for me
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 09:30 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brooklynite

(94,568 posts)
3. Ar you under the impression that anyone doesn't agree with that point?
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 09:02 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

lees1975

(3,859 posts)
11. Campaign rhetoric suggests it
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 10:54 PM
Jan 2020

I understand that most Democratic candidates want to get their policy points up there. And I'd be excited, too, if I had a shot at the Presidency because 2020 is an almost certainty for Democrats. I'd just like to hear and see a little more of it.

Yeah, so it may sound corny, but what a statement it would make if one of the questions was, "Take a look at the candidate standing on your left and make a case for his or her qualifications to be President of the United States." It's either that or stand and hold shoulders and sing Kum Ba Yah.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
23. There are two points made in the op.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 10:23 AM
Jan 2020

The arguments isn't even really made that there is some kind of connection.

I don't agree with one of the points and do agree with the other.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
6. Then we need to discourage the snarky bullcrap.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 09:19 PM
Jan 2020

People who should be confident about their candidate and their choice are spending time talking smack about other candidates (and even worse, their supporters).

This can kill enthusiasm for the GE. It needs to end. We are all on the same team and we are all adults.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

nilesobek

(1,423 posts)
14. No way is this helping us.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 04:45 AM
Jan 2020

These types of conversations are part of a negative feedback loop that acts like a virus.

Scared kids arguing over who will confront the bully and insulting each other over the choices. Mea culpa.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
7. Let's keep our thinking clear: tRUMP CAN'T BE RE-ELECTED SINCE HE WAS NEVER ELECTED
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 09:19 PM
Jan 2020

IN THE FIRST PLACE. While corruption can always find a way, it just means that we need to push back harder... on tRUMP, not on each other.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LuvLoogie

(7,003 posts)
8. I pledge to unify my boot with your ass...
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 09:23 PM
Jan 2020

if you vote for anyone but Democrats.

Works for me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

question everything

(47,479 posts)
13. I am hoping for a positive message
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 11:01 PM
Jan 2020

No, we do not see "carnage." America has always been great. We see a country that has always been a beacon for the rest of the world, welcoming the "huddled masses yearning to breathe free." We may have our differences but all of us want to have a welcoming, functioning country when all work together, when we know that we can deal with any disappointment and set back.

OK, so I am naive but one can always hope.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
16. You of course mean the Social Democrat!
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 06:01 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
18. Right we have to give folks who are NOT Dem's someone they can vote for and that is BIDEN.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 09:06 AM
Jan 2020

Why are you undecided? If you follow your advice in your own post you would not be.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. :) Chill. Good citizens are like the very elderly Georgia farmer who
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 09:14 AM
Jan 2020

told me that 80 years ago, before modern insecticides, fungicides, etc, they just had to grow more -- "enough for us and them."

Democrats are already strongly united behind our common goals and ideals, but we have to run a candidate who can win and we have to vote in high enough numbers to win.

Malcontents, self haters and so on will always be with us, but the populism and other forms of extremism that attract them grow in times of anxiety the way molds do in heat and humidity, and extremism will only die back when we restore stability and feelings of security.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
21. No thanks.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 10:17 AM
Jan 2020

They are applying for what might be the most powerful position in the world.

About this unity pledge you are considering....

Would it stop our ability to talk about Bidens horrendous vote for the Iraq War?

Woulds it stop us from discussing Sanders rape essay that he had published and his horrendous response toward women from his 2016 campaign? Literally a trend about the same issue that has been a part of who he is for decades and decades.

Would it stop us from talking about how unprepared the Warren campaign was in response to their own proposal to fund M4A?

These are all real things that we should be open to discussing like adults. They are all issues that play a role in our decisions. They are some of the most important topics. Saying that we need to shelve these things because of Trump is not something I or anyone I know is willing to do.

I want our candidates to be vetted. So far, outside of Biden and Pete, they have not been.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

randr

(12,412 posts)
26. What we need is a doctrine
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 10:33 AM
Jan 2020

And a clear path out of this mess.
Issues like health, climate, taxes, education, etal need to be addressed and Democratic solutions presented.
We need to define ourselves and not let a single candidate define us.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

keithbvadu2

(36,804 posts)
27. Republicans already have their unity pledge...
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 10:38 AM
Jan 2020

Republicans already have their unity pledge...

Oath of Allegiance - Pre and post 1934
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-fuehrer-oath

(before August 2, 1934)
"I swear by almighty God this sacred oath:
I will at all times loyally and honestly
serve my people and country
and, as a brave soldier,
I will be ready at any time
to stake my life for this oath."

The Fuehrer Oath
(effective August 2, 1934)
"I swear by almighty God this sacred oath:
I will render unconditional obedience
to the Fuehrer of the German Reich and people, Adolf Hitler,
Supreme Commander of the Wehrmacht,
and, as a brave soldier,
I will be ready at any time
to stake my life for this oath."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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