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Sun Jan 12, 2020, 07:55 PM

 

Democrats need a unity pledge

We CANNOT afford or endure four more years of stupid in the White House. Like everyone else, I have my list of preferences when it comes to government and policy and the candidates who promote them. But I will vote for the Democratic nominee, whoever it is regardless of their list of preferential issues. This isn't rocket science. 60% of the likely voters in this country don't want to vote for the orange headed buffoon. The Democrats need to give every person in that 60% someone they can vote for.

Do we have to come up with a pledge? There isn't anything Democrats stand for that will survive a second Trump term. You get nothing if he's re-elected.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Reply Democrats need a unity pledge (Original post)
lees1975 Jan 2020 OP
Jeebo Jan 2020 #1
InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #28
George II Jan 2020 #2
Rollerman Jan 2020 #4
George II Jan 2020 #5
Cha Jan 2020 #15
Skidmore Jan 2020 #17
TidalWave46 Jan 2020 #22
mcar Jan 2020 #9
brooklynite Jan 2020 #3
lees1975 Jan 2020 #11
TidalWave46 Jan 2020 #23
redqueen Jan 2020 #6
lees1975 Jan 2020 #12
nilesobek Jan 2020 #14
abqtommy Jan 2020 #7
LuvLoogie Jan 2020 #8
George II Jan 2020 #10
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TidalWave46 Jan 2020 #24
dware Jan 2020 #25
question everything Jan 2020 #13
whistler162 Jan 2020 #16
UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #18
Hortensis Jan 2020 #19
WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2020 #20
TidalWave46 Jan 2020 #21
randr Jan 2020 #26
keithbvadu2 Jan 2020 #27

Response to lees1975 (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 08:01 PM

1. When I watch the Democratic candidate debates...

 

...I keep hoping every candidate prefaces his/her comments with this statement: "I think we all will agree that the most important thing is that we win back the White House from that con man who currently holds the office. WHOEVER wins the Democratic nomination is a hundred times better than what we have now."

-- Ron
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Response to Jeebo (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 10:31 AM

28. Isn't that akin to saying the sun rises in the East?!

 


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
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Response to lees1975 (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 08:01 PM

2. We have one. In fact one of the candidates "challenged" the others to sign it, and that candidate...

 

...was the first to break it AND has violated it more than probably all the others combined.

Just like he "challenged" all the candidates to swear off Super PACs, and now has six or seven of them supporting him.
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Response to George II (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 08:07 PM

4. Just stop

 

The divisive rhetoric needs to stop. Expand and support your candidate’s policies, but tearing down the other candidates drives their supporters back to the sidelines if yours’ wins the nomination.
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Response to Rollerman (Reply #4)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 08:10 PM

5. You're talking to the wrong person.

 

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Response to Rollerman (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 03:56 AM

15. You "just stop".. we will report FACTS whether you like

 

it or not.
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Response to Rollerman (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 05:04 AM

17. This is the truth.

 

Why should he be trusted to honor any pledge when so many were broken by Sanders himself.
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Response to Rollerman (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 09:21 AM

22. When you start viewing....

 

An honest discussion about the actions of the person you support as being "divisive"...........
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Response to George II (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 08:30 PM

9. OK for thee but not for me

 

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Response to lees1975 (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 08:02 PM

3. Ar you under the impression that anyone doesn't agree with that point?

 

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #3)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 09:54 PM

11. Campaign rhetoric suggests it

 

I understand that most Democratic candidates want to get their policy points up there. And I'd be excited, too, if I had a shot at the Presidency because 2020 is an almost certainty for Democrats. I'd just like to hear and see a little more of it.

Yeah, so it may sound corny, but what a statement it would make if one of the questions was, "Take a look at the candidate standing on your left and make a case for his or her qualifications to be President of the United States." It's either that or stand and hold shoulders and sing Kum Ba Yah.
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Response to brooklynite (Reply #3)

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 09:23 AM

23. There are two points made in the op.

 

The arguments isn't even really made that there is some kind of connection.

I don't agree with one of the points and do agree with the other.
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Response to lees1975 (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 08:19 PM

6. Then we need to discourage the snarky bullcrap.

 

People who should be confident about their candidate and their choice are spending time talking smack about other candidates (and even worse, their supporters).

This can kill enthusiasm for the GE. It needs to end. We are all on the same team and we are all adults.
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Response to redqueen (Reply #6)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 09:55 PM

12. Well said!

 

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Response to redqueen (Reply #6)

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 03:45 AM

14. No way is this helping us.

 

These types of conversations are part of a negative feedback loop that acts like a virus.

Scared kids arguing over who will confront the bully and insulting each other over the choices. Mea culpa.
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Response to lees1975 (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 08:19 PM

7. Let's keep our thinking clear: tRUMP CAN'T BE RE-ELECTED SINCE HE WAS NEVER ELECTED

 

IN THE FIRST PLACE. While corruption can always find a way, it just means that we need to push back harder... on tRUMP, not on each other.
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Response to lees1975 (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 08:23 PM

8. I pledge to unify my boot with your ass...

 

if you vote for anyone but Democrats.

Works for me.
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Response to LuvLoogie (Reply #8)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 08:50 PM

10. ...

 



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Response to LuvLoogie (Reply #8)

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 09:24 AM

24. .

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Response to LuvLoogie (Reply #8)

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 09:28 AM

25. Perfect.

 

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Response to lees1975 (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 10:01 PM

13. I am hoping for a positive message

 

No, we do not see "carnage." America has always been great. We see a country that has always been a beacon for the rest of the world, welcoming the "huddled masses yearning to breathe free." We may have our differences but all of us want to have a welcoming, functioning country when all work together, when we know that we can deal with any disappointment and set back.

OK, so I am naive but one can always hope.
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Response to lees1975 (Original post)

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 05:01 AM

16. You of course mean the Social Democrat!

 

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Response to lees1975 (Original post)

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 08:06 AM

18. Right we have to give folks who are NOT Dem's someone they can vote for and that is BIDEN.

 

Why are you undecided? If you follow your advice in your own post you would not be.
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Response to lees1975 (Original post)

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 08:14 AM

19. :) Chill. Good citizens are like the very elderly Georgia farmer who

 

told me that 80 years ago, before modern insecticides, fungicides, etc, they just had to grow more -- "enough for us and them."

Democrats are already strongly united behind our common goals and ideals, but we have to run a candidate who can win and we have to vote in high enough numbers to win.

Malcontents, self haters and so on will always be with us, but the populism and other forms of extremism that attract them grow in times of anxiety the way molds do in heat and humidity, and extremism will only die back when we restore stability and feelings of security.
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Response to lees1975 (Original post)

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 08:23 AM

20. No.

 

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Response to lees1975 (Original post)

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 09:17 AM

21. No thanks.

 

They are applying for what might be the most powerful position in the world.

About this unity pledge you are considering....

Would it stop our ability to talk about Bidens horrendous vote for the Iraq War?

Woulds it stop us from discussing Sanders rape essay that he had published and his horrendous response toward women from his 2016 campaign? Literally a trend about the same issue that has been a part of who he is for decades and decades.

Would it stop us from talking about how unprepared the Warren campaign was in response to their own proposal to fund M4A?

These are all real things that we should be open to discussing like adults. They are all issues that play a role in our decisions. They are some of the most important topics. Saying that we need to shelve these things because of Trump is not something I or anyone I know is willing to do.

I want our candidates to be vetted. So far, outside of Biden and Pete, they have not been.

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Response to lees1975 (Original post)

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 09:33 AM

26. What we need is a doctrine

 

And a clear path out of this mess.
Issues like health, climate, taxes, education, etal need to be addressed and Democratic solutions presented.
We need to define ourselves and not let a single candidate define us.
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Response to lees1975 (Original post)

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 09:38 AM

27. Republicans already have their unity pledge...

 

Republicans already have their unity pledge...

Oath of Allegiance - Pre and post 1934
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-fuehrer-oath

(before August 2, 1934)
"I swear by almighty God this sacred oath:
I will at all times loyally and honestly
serve my people and country
and, as a brave soldier,
I will be ready at any time
to stake my life for this oath."

The Fuehrer Oath
(effective August 2, 1934)
"I swear by almighty God this sacred oath:
I will render unconditional obedience
to the Fuehrer of the German Reich and people, Adolf Hitler,
Supreme Commander of the Wehrmacht,
and, as a brave soldier,
I will be ready at any time
to stake my life for this oath."
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