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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

ArtTownsend

(439 posts)
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 03:02 PM Jan 2020

Vote for whomever aligns with your values the most - and do everything you can to elect our nominee.

Period. End of story.

I trust that everyone here is with me on this!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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Vote for whomever aligns with your values the most - and do everything you can to elect our nominee. (Original Post) ArtTownsend Jan 2020 OP
No I'm not. redstatebluegirl Jan 2020 #1
Ok. Respectfully disagree. ArtTownsend Jan 2020 #2
Nailed it! :) eom Sloumeau Jan 2020 #4
So, your chosen candidate doesn't align with your values? Bettie Jan 2020 #11
I am saying that Joe Biden is very close to how I feel. redstatebluegirl Jan 2020 #15
So, only a woman would face Republicans painting them in an unfair light? Bettie Jan 2020 #16
No, it isn't because she is woman, they will brand her a socialist. redstatebluegirl Jan 2020 #17
+1 LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #12
I will vote for my choice in the primary Sherman A1 Jan 2020 #3
That was what I thought too Bettie Jan 2020 #8
It's all about "electability", which is obviously 100% clear and objective, even this far ArtTownsend Jan 2020 #9
I will vote for whomever I think has the best chance to beat Trump. Sloumeau Jan 2020 #5
Nope.. brooklynite Jan 2020 #6
Playing the "electability" game is a fool's errand. ArtTownsend Jan 2020 #7
I support most of Bernie's policies in the abstract. I have no confidence he can win the election. brooklynite Jan 2020 #10
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2020 #13
both Cory Booker and Kamala Harris is out yuiyoshida Jan 2020 #14
 

redstatebluegirl

(12,813 posts)
1. No I'm not.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 03:05 PM
Jan 2020

I want the person who can win a national election, not win Iowa. If we nominate someone who can win Iowa and New Hampshire but can't carry the minority vote we lose and get 4 more years of something much worse than dealing with someone who"doesn't align with our values".

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ArtTownsend

(439 posts)
2. Ok. Respectfully disagree.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 03:07 PM
Jan 2020

Never thought South Carolina was a swing state.

Check who’s leading among Latinos.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
4. Nailed it! :) eom
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 03:26 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Bettie

(19,602 posts)
11. So, your chosen candidate doesn't align with your values?
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 03:46 PM
Jan 2020

or are you telling others that their values don't or shouldn't matter?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

redstatebluegirl

(12,813 posts)
15. I am saying that Joe Biden is very close to how I feel.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 05:02 PM
Jan 2020

There is more than one thing I look at when I vote this time. He is the closest one to fill both. I like Elizabeth, I don't think she can win this time. I think dark money will paint her in a very unfair way that will cause us to lose, not only the white house, but the house as well. I don't agree I am just realistic in what their tactics will be.

We can't play this time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Bettie

(19,602 posts)
16. So, only a woman would face Republicans painting them in an unfair light?
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 05:24 PM
Jan 2020

How is it precisely that Joe Biden alone will escape this and be left alone with zero "unfair" attacks to fend off.

How is it that any of the other candidates would be utterly incapable of fending off similar attacks were they to be the eventual nominee?

Will "dark money" not target Biden for some reason? If so: why?

Or do you see other candidates as incompetent people who will automatically cause millions who usually vote for Democrats to suddenly say "I'm going with Trump because (as yet unknown Dem. candidate) sucks and Trump rules, I seen that on teh Facebooks!"

I believe that any of our candidates CAN and will win against Trump if we all pull together.

I hate being told every day that only a certain old white man can save us. It is the kind of talk that makes people feel hostile toward that candidate.

And even then, I'll vote Blue no matter who.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

redstatebluegirl

(12,813 posts)
17. No, it isn't because she is woman, they will brand her a socialist.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 05:34 PM
Jan 2020

Not fair, but both she and Bernie would have that issue. The ads are already written waiting to run. I have given Elizabeth money, in a perfect world, I would not hesitate to vote for her, but I am more liberal than most people outside of the two coasts. Bernie is another issue, he has more baggage than being a socialist, he would get clobbered.

I wore my shoes to nothing working for Hillary so obviously I think a woman can win. In fact she did the last time. I am not so naive as to think that certain factions will not vilify any democrat, but in particular one who is as progressive as Elizabeth. I love her, I agree with her on most things, not all, but I feel with all of the damage done to our country in the past 3 years we should not try and force the country to do a 180, it just won't work.

It is my opinion, it is not anti woman, it is this candidate and her views. I was marching for women's liberation and equal rights in the 70s and since. I have been discriminated against at work, at banks and in court during divorce proceedings. That label won't fly with me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
3. I will vote for my choice in the primary
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 03:26 PM
Jan 2020

and the nominee in the general. That I believe is what the primaries are for.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Bettie

(19,602 posts)
8. That was what I thought too
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 03:32 PM
Jan 2020

apparently, the rules changed and we weren't told about it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ArtTownsend

(439 posts)
9. It's all about "electability", which is obviously 100% clear and objective, even this far
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 03:36 PM
Jan 2020

from the election.

There’s a secret formula. Doncha know?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
5. I will vote for whomever I think has the best chance to beat Trump.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 03:27 PM
Jan 2020

The fact that he also aligns with my values is a bonus...like whipped cream on a piece of pie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
6. Nope..
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 03:31 PM
Jan 2020

I would vote for a candidate who didn't align with my values if I thought he/she had a better chance of winning in November.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ArtTownsend

(439 posts)
7. Playing the "electability" game is a fool's errand.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 03:32 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
10. I support most of Bernie's policies in the abstract. I have no confidence he can win the election.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 03:38 PM
Jan 2020

Convince me otherwise based on hard data.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Uncle Joe

(64,956 posts)
13. Kicked and recommended.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 03:50 PM
Jan 2020

Thanks for the thread ArtTownsend.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

yuiyoshida

(45,355 posts)
14. both Cory Booker and Kamala Harris is out
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 03:53 PM
Jan 2020

And would have been my real choice. But I have sided with Elizabeth Warren...for a number of reasons. I like Andrew Yang but don't believe he has a chance.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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