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OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 10:08 PM Jan 2020

Why does this forum involve so much Dem bashing?

I feel like I'm on reddit with all the bots and trolls out sowing division among Bernie vs. Warren or Progressives vs. Biden.

You're all just making Trump's re-election more likely with all this bickering over who said what to whom behind closed doors. Keep in mind, if Trump wins again, America will be a dictatorship. You and your family will lose your health insurance unless you have private, non-ACA coverage. The environment will be beyond recovery. Our diplomacy will be permanently destroyed. Our economy will hit a recession. More children will be abused in cages.

Can we stop with all the bickering?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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Why does this forum involve so much Dem bashing? (Original Post) OliverQ Jan 2020 OP
Some people want the easiest path to victory. Some people want solutions to our problems. LonePirate Jan 2020 #1
There can't be solutions if there is no victory Dem4Life1102 Jan 2020 #19
Some bring victory and solutions to the table, Others only bring victory. LonePirate Jan 2020 #21
Who? Dem4Life1102 Jan 2020 #22
Pretty quote. But all of the democratic candidates have solid plans, xyoungblood Jan 2020 #24
Recommended. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #2
Make a list of the same bickerers and avoid their click bait. LakeArenal Jan 2020 #3
See Monte Python's "argument" room... CTyankee Jan 2020 #4
Direction of the party. TidalWave46 Jan 2020 #5
I SAY VOTE FOR ABT! ANYBODY BUT TRUMP!! cornball 24 Jan 2020 #6
from what i read from DU veterans, this is pretty normal. btw the environment Kurt V. Jan 2020 #7
Clinton vs. Obama got even more rabid than this groundloop Jan 2020 #17
I'd say not exactly. Things came to a head in 2016 and it hasn't been the same here since. rwsanders Jan 2020 #31
Unfortunately some people can't look at the larger picture. Blue_true Jan 2020 #8
I think it's the Trump effect dlk Jan 2020 #9
Amen! iwannaknow Jan 2020 #10
First we MUST stop the BLEEDING SayItLoud Jan 2020 #11
NO. slumcamper Jan 2020 #12
It is primary season on Democratic Underground PatSeg Jan 2020 #13
DU reminds me of a family sitting around the kitchen table. Laffy Kat Jan 2020 #14
Republicans are Robots, Marching in Lockstep. WE are Merely Human. Southern Blueneck Jan 2020 #15
It's characteristic of our party and from my KPN Jan 2020 #16
Because we are self-defeatists. Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #18
Thank you!!! Catch2.2 Jan 2020 #20
I think Democrats are more independent thinkers than Republicans and definitely not as jalan48 Jan 2020 #23
It's a carryover from 2016, 2008, 2004... Gore1FL Jan 2020 #25
It's even more contentious than 2016 TheFarseer Jan 2020 #26
2016 was much worse here. highplainsdem Jan 2020 #27
Yes, But This Time is Different McKim Jan 2020 #29
my memory could be fuzzy TheFarseer Jan 2020 #30
Much much much much much much much much worse. betsuni Jan 2020 #35
Yes. I agree entirely KSNY Jan 2020 #28
Totally agree peace! marlakay Jan 2020 #32
K and R Quixote1818 Jan 2020 #33
This is primaries forum Wawannabe Jan 2020 #34
Right wingers have so much hate in their hearts. RandiFan1290 Jan 2020 #36
 

LonePirate

(13,417 posts)
1. Some people want the easiest path to victory. Some people want solutions to our problems.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 10:10 PM
Jan 2020

Hence all the bickering.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
19. There can't be solutions if there is no victory
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 11:56 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LonePirate

(13,417 posts)
21. Some bring victory and solutions to the table, Others only bring victory.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:00 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

xyoungblood

(36 posts)
24. Pretty quote. But all of the democratic candidates have solid plans,
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:07 AM
Jan 2020

so a win by any of them won't be empty.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
3. Make a list of the same bickerers and avoid their click bait.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 10:12 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
4. See Monte Python's "argument" room...
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 10:12 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
5. Direction of the party.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 10:12 PM
Jan 2020

What most people call attacking I call good politics.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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cornball 24

(1,475 posts)
6. I SAY VOTE FOR ABT! ANYBODY BUT TRUMP!!
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 10:13 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
7. from what i read from DU veterans, this is pretty normal. btw the environment
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 10:13 PM
Jan 2020

is most likely beyond recovery without a new green deal in some shape or form.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
17. Clinton vs. Obama got even more rabid than this
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 11:49 PM
Jan 2020

I'm sure it'll get worse as the primary season moves on, nothing new. I'm also convinced there are some trolls feeding the fire hoping to divide us.

I certainly wish we could be more civil and stick to discussing issues, but that obviously won't happen. In any case I'm confident that once it all settles out everyone will support our nominee. ANYONE BUT TRUMP !!!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

rwsanders

(2,596 posts)
31. I'd say not exactly. Things came to a head in 2016 and it hasn't been the same here since.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:36 AM
Jan 2020

Some very thoughtful, intelligent people who really knew the history, the people, behind the issues left and haven't been back. The response here is often a snide mockery because a different website hasn't caught on to the level this one has.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
8. Unfortunately some people can't look at the larger picture.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 10:17 PM
Jan 2020

I donate to Warren and Biden. Some would call that nonsensical, and I would firmly disagree. I am comfortable with either person winning the nomination. I am less comfortable with others, but would support them fully in the General if they win the nomination.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dlk

(11,552 posts)
9. I think it's the Trump effect
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 10:18 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
11. First we MUST stop the BLEEDING
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 11:30 PM
Jan 2020

which is tRUMP et al. Then we can rebuild, maybe repair and balance. (Well at least we can try)

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

slumcamper

(1,606 posts)
12. NO.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 11:37 PM
Jan 2020

This is TRUMP'S AMERICA!

Our mean-spirited, pugilistic, and narcissistic tendencies must be on full display!

We must be combative at every twist and turn!

OUR individual perspective and view of or on anything is the ONLY "real" thing, and everything else is FAKE.

Get with it, snowflake!



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
13. It is primary season on Democratic Underground
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 11:41 PM
Jan 2020

And it has been much, much worse in previous elections. This is pretty tame and the majority of people so far have been relatively civil.

It could be more civil and some of the attacks have been petty or in some cases not true. That said, it is usually best to avoid posts that appear to be inflammatory and don't let people push your buttons.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
14. DU reminds me of a family sitting around the kitchen table.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 11:44 PM
Jan 2020

Because we are secure in knowing we are all in this together, we feel free to challenge each other's opinions, sometimes loudly, but at the end of the day, we still call this home.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 
15. Republicans are Robots, Marching in Lockstep. WE are Merely Human.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 11:44 PM
Jan 2020


But maybe, for this do-or-die election, Dems can come together and be a victorious John Freakin' Connor.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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KPN

(15,642 posts)
16. It's characteristic of our party and from my
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 11:47 PM
Jan 2020

perspective has been for quite some time. Some see every loss as a result of fidelity to political goals. Others see it as fidelity to “party”.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
18. Because we are self-defeatists.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 11:55 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Catch2.2

(629 posts)
20. Thank you!!!
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 11:57 PM
Jan 2020

I agree 100% All this does is divide us and guarantee a Trump victory. On a side note, I am voting for Bernie but would love for Warren to be the nominee too! Or Biden, Buttigieg, etc.

WE MUST UNITE AND DEFEAT TRUMP!!! STOP BASHING OTHER DEM CANDIDATES!!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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jalan48

(13,859 posts)
23. I think Democrats are more independent thinkers than Republicans and definitely not as
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:07 AM
Jan 2020

susceptible to appeals of authority.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Gore1FL

(21,127 posts)
25. It's a carryover from 2016, 2008, 2004...
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:11 AM
Jan 2020

One thing DU taught me is that Democrats can be assholes too. I include myself in this observation. Humans are humans. We take things seriously, and we don't always take the high ground.

In the end, vote for the Dem nominee.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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TheFarseer

(9,322 posts)
26. It's even more contentious than 2016
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:18 AM
Jan 2020

I just wish we could talk about issues. All the character assassination is too much - from all sides. But it really goes back to the media. They don't want to talk about so and so's plan to finance Medicare or create green jobs. They love all this personal attack jr high stuff.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

highplainsdem

(48,968 posts)
27. 2016 was much worse here.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:19 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

McKim

(2,412 posts)
29. Yes, But This Time is Different
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:28 AM
Jan 2020

Yes but this time is different. This time we are truly fighting for this country to have a chance at its full flowering of Democracy vs. Fascism. Too much is at stake for us to continue the Dem Bashing. Enough! Call it out every time it gets started!!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

TheFarseer

(9,322 posts)
30. my memory could be fuzzy
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:30 AM
Jan 2020

I was thinking it was fairly civil until we had some actual primaries, so give it time.

on edit - hope this discussion doesn't escalate into a full scale war! lol

If I were to vote in a presidential
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betsuni

(25,465 posts)
35. Much much much much much much much much worse.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 07:13 AM
Jan 2020

No comparison.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

KSNY

(315 posts)
28. Yes. I agree entirely
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:26 AM
Jan 2020

I will vote for whichever Democrat is nominated and find it distasteful to see candidates bashed for trivial issues.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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marlakay

(11,451 posts)
32. Totally agree peace!
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:05 AM
Jan 2020

I feel like things get done by people that aren’t on this site for a candidate and then we all end up defensive when someone trying to up their person points it out.

Its not making anybody change who they like, its making people defensive and angry.

I call those kind of people shit disturbers.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Wawannabe

(5,643 posts)
34. This is primaries forum
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 06:55 AM
Jan 2020

The very place to make your case for the nominee. Should be lots of bickering because it was a big field that needed narrowing.

I will continue to point out that Bernie is not a registered Democrat and does not deserve the D nomination until I am blue in the face or kicked off DU.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

RandiFan1290

(6,229 posts)
36. Right wingers have so much hate in their hearts.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 07:20 AM
Jan 2020

I hope they get the help they so desperately need.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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