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TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 08:14 AM Jan 2020

Is it clear yet? The "establishment" isn't scared of Warren.

That alone was a shady attack from the “left”(the Stein left). She is one of us. She is a Democrat. She is a coalition builder. She is entrenched within the establishment as she actually wants to accomplish things.

Fear is coming from those going around claiming everyone is scared of them. Nothing more than projection.

We are Warren. She is one of us. She can win.

Jill Stein and her crew can go pound sand. The debate is between our great Democrats running.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Is it clear yet? The "establishment" isn't scared of Warren. (Original Post) TidalWave46 Jan 2020 OP
Warren is defintely entrenched within The Establishment ritapria Jan 2020 #1
People who want to accomplish things are. TidalWave46 Jan 2020 #2
+1000 UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #10
People who decry "the establishment" are usually those who aren't very successful ehrnst Jan 2020 #20
Anytime you see someone rail against "the Establishment," you can safely replace it with Democrats. W_HAMILTON Jan 2020 #4
What have the revolutionary politics of Bernie and Our Revolution accomplished? brooklynite Jan 2020 #7
Oooh, Capital Letters BeyondGeography Jan 2020 #8
LOL, you capitalized it? Happy Hoosier Jan 2020 #11
IKR? ehrnst Jan 2020 #19
I have made this suggestion before without result. Nevertheless, I'll try again. TomSlick Jan 2020 #13
Look at the twitter reaction squirecam Jan 2020 #14
If a candidate - any candidate - TomSlick Jan 2020 #17
Who is the divisive candidate TomCADem Jan 2020 #16
+1000. ehrnst Jan 2020 #22
As are all the millionaire politicians running in the primary. LanternWaste Jan 2020 #23
I like Warrrn evertonfc Jan 2020 #3
Trumps greatest fear is Biden. No doubt about it. TidalWave46 Jan 2020 #5
Did you see that it is very likely that Trump plotted to kill an American ambassador because Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #18
Trump is NOT "worried,' about Warren. But he seems consumed by uncle Joe. nilesobek Jan 2020 #9
Nah. That's a version of what you think. Those attacks proved to blm Jan 2020 #12
Speaking of establishment Democrats, that would include Nancy Pelosi dlk Jan 2020 #6
Bernie still has the best ideas IMO but Warren can also win mvd Jan 2020 #15
Bernie doesn't seem to have made any attempt to win over Hillary supporters. ehrnst Jan 2020 #21
 

ritapria

(1,812 posts)
1. Warren is defintely entrenched within The Establishment
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 08:18 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
2. People who want to accomplish things are.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 08:21 AM
Jan 2020

Another word for it is coalition building. It’s for more than just naming post offices. Foreign thought for so many.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
20. People who decry "the establishment" are usually those who aren't very successful
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 10:04 AM
Jan 2020

getting things done, other than talking about them, and how awful the "establishment" is.

Like calling Planned Parenthood and the Black Congressional Caucus "the establishment" as a smear.

I wish that they were part of "the establishment."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

W_HAMILTON

(7,813 posts)
4. Anytime you see someone rail against "the Establishment," you can safely replace it with Democrats.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 08:22 AM
Jan 2020

So, yes, Warren is definitely entrenched within the Democratic Party.

A certain Democratic-when-it-suits-me candidate and the divisive supporters he brags about bringing into the Democratic Party? Not so much.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brooklynite

(93,880 posts)
7. What have the revolutionary politics of Bernie and Our Revolution accomplished?
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 08:29 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BeyondGeography

(39,285 posts)
8. Oooh, Capital Letters
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 08:40 AM
Jan 2020

How grave.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Happy Hoosier

(7,083 posts)
11. LOL, you capitalized it?
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 09:15 AM
Jan 2020

I guess all us old Democrats are part of the The Establishment and will be purged once The Revolution comes.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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TomSlick

(11,035 posts)
13. I have made this suggestion before without result. Nevertheless, I'll try again.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:39 PM
Jan 2020

Because Sen. Sanders is your preferred candidate, your laughable post attacking Sen. Warren as part of "the establishment" contains a picture of Sen. Sanders. It is difficult for those of us who are still trying to decide who to support to not associate your attack on Sen. Warren to Sen Sanders. At least subconsciously, your post will cost Sen. Sanders votes.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
14. Look at the twitter reaction
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:42 PM
Jan 2020

All the Bernie supporters are attacking Warren.

It’s due to them, and sanders being ok with it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

TomSlick

(11,035 posts)
17. If a candidate - any candidate -
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:56 PM
Jan 2020

makes baseless, or simply mean, attacks on another candidate or doesn't call his/her supporters down when they do, it costs them points in my decision who to support.

Yes, yes, I will vote for the Democratic candidate, no matter who. I'm just talking about my vote in the primary. The difference being that because I live in Arkansas, my vote in the general election will be meaningless. My vote in the primary means something.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TomCADem

(17,378 posts)
16. Who is the divisive candidate
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:50 PM
Jan 2020

Bernie's whole career is built around his campaign attacking would be allies. There is a reason why Trump is leaping to his defense and why he gets boosted by Russians. Bernie creates a false equivalency between the Republican and Democratic "establishment."

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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
23. As are all the millionaire politicians running in the primary.
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:18 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
3. I like Warrrn
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 08:22 AM
Jan 2020

but nothing about her campaign worries Trump campaign the slightest. It's obvious who the Trump campaign is obsessed with. Probably per thier internal polling

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TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
5. Trumps greatest fear is Biden. No doubt about it.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 08:25 AM
Jan 2020

Right after that, the election itself is their greatest fear.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Demsrule86

(68,355 posts)
18. Did you see that it is very likely that Trump plotted to kill an American ambassador because
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:09 AM
Jan 2020

she stood in the way of his plot to attack and manufacture shit about Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

nilesobek

(1,423 posts)
9. Trump is NOT "worried,' about Warren. But he seems consumed by uncle Joe.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 09:08 AM
Jan 2020

Trump will viciously accuse Warren of lying about her ancestry to get into the Ivy League and get ahead in business, politics etc.

These attacks are devastating. There is no reasonable defense for Warren, just lame apologies. IMO there is no path to victory for her.

The Republican plan has always been to, "split the progressives," separating Warren from Sanders, and Warren has done all their work for them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

blm

(112,920 posts)
12. Nah. That's a version of what you think. Those attacks proved to
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 09:36 AM
Jan 2020

be worthless. Most people now think Trump is loathsome because of those types of attacks.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

dlk

(11,438 posts)
6. Speaking of establishment Democrats, that would include Nancy Pelosi
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 08:27 AM
Jan 2020

Are certain parties going after her, too?

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mvd

(65,148 posts)
15. Bernie still has the best ideas IMO but Warren can also win
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:43 PM
Jan 2020

Maybe she could pull the Sanders and Hillary/establishment parts together. That is one reason I haven’t fully decided yet. My dream is still Bernie but want to see how things play out. The most annoying thing about the “establishment” IMO is when they do scare tactics.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
21. Bernie doesn't seem to have made any attempt to win over Hillary supporters.
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 10:23 AM
Jan 2020

Maybe you know of some instance where he has?

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