Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumTime to revisit: Joe Biden and VAWA
A reply on another thread suggested that there was some similarity between Biden, Sanders, and their common generation's attitude toward women.
I have to call BULLSHIT in the strongest way I can.
There's some old stuff on Sanders that illuminates his attitudes towards women, I'm not going to dredge that up here. (Though others probably will if someone begs hard enough, by claiming they have no idea what I'm talking about.)
Biden, on the other hand, pushed VAWA through. (the landmark Violence Against Women Act, in case anyone is not familiar.
https://time.com/5675029/violence-against-women-act-history-biden/
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In Nourses opinion, then-Senator Biden was motivated to push for the bill because of his empathy for women who had approached him about the idea, and those who testified in the hearings in the House and Senate.
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In terms of the passage of the Violence Against Women Act, Nourse says Bidens empathy was an asset.
Hes criticized for his emotion and his empathy. But it also means he has grit; when it gets in that hes got to do something, hes not taking no for an answer, Nourse says. That bill could only have been passed because of Joe Biden.
Biden has his strengths and weaknesses as a candidate, and in his history in the Senate. But he's gotten shit done that mattered to women's rights. So anyone trying to equate him with Sanders in that area ... no. Just no.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Last edited Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:41 PM - Edit history (2)
Let's start with the resolution that lead to the Iraq War... that got done, true. The Crime Bill, along with Draconian drug laws and so-called justice reform that contributed to mass incarceration of minorities... yes, that got done. Changes to U.S. bankruptcy laws and banking regulations that helped create record wealth inequality... that also got done. The treatment of Anita Hill and the over-all handling of the Thomas confirmation hearings.... check.
The list goes on, proving that getting things done is not necessarily a positive and these things need to be vetted BEFORE the votes are counted. Of course, there are positives in Joe's favor that also need to be weighed.
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...and positions to suit their narrative, forgetting that he got lots of things done. And there aren't all that many post offices in Delaware, either.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)sex discrimination, and a pervasive predatory culture within the campaign itself?
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/30/bernie-sanders-campaign-harassment-1077014
https://time.com/5490813/bernie-sanders-campaign-sexual-harassment/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MH1
(17,600 posts)and try to act like Biden is someone other than he really is.
If he doesn't get the nomination let it be for factual and policy reasons, not total bullshit.
I think he's a very decent guy and will be happy to vote for him in November if he does get the nom.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
elleng
(130,895 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,176 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MH1
(17,600 posts)not a lot that I know of.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
a post office for Thaddeus Stevens.....that's a kind of cool thing to have as your signature piece of legislation for decades in congress, I guess.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden