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Related: About this forumBernie-Warren Feud Has Been Fueled By Everyone But Bernie And Warren
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/prime/bernie-warren-feud-has-been-fueled-by-everyone-but-bernie-and-warrenIn the age of Trump and cable news soundbites, political feuds are often perpetuated by a politicians own words. Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) went after former Vice President Joe Biden directly on the debate stage, questioning his record on race by invoking his comments about a 1970s-era busing program. Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) dug into Mayor Pete Buttiegiegs courtship of top-dollar donors by calling out his wine cave adventures.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...the Harris and Klobuchar debate incidents, this is being fueled by high level staffers in his campaign. Check the twitter accounts of people like Turner, Sirota, and Gray. They're the ones who were driving this.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)Sanders staffers leaked contents of his private conversation with Warren to the press?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)...and they're the ones who denied that it happened until they had to retract that. It wasn't just that statement from the 2018 private meeting, it was the anti-Warren script that they swore didn't exist or was fake until they could no longer deny it. Even Sanders called it a fake.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/14/sanders-admits-anti-warren-script-early-states-098786
Sanders camp admits anti-Warren script was deployed in multiple early states
Sanders initially attributed the talking points to rogue staffers, and supporters launched an online campaign to convince people the document was fake.
By ALEX THOMPSON and HOLLY OTTERBEIN
01/14/2020 05:06 PM EST Updated: 01/14/2020 05:50 PM EST
Volunteers and staffers used the script on Saturday while canvassing for votes, meaning the talking points were more official than what Sanders previously suggested after POLITICO reported on the language.
The campaign pulled back the script which described Warren's appeal as limited to the highly educated and financially well off later on Saturday after the story published. Sanders initially appeared to blame the controversy on rogue employees.
We have hundreds of employees. Elizabeth Warren has hundreds of employees. And people sometimes say things that they shouldnt, Sanders said Sunday in Iowa. His press aides never denied the veracity of the document.
The script mostly focused on Sanders' ability to beat President Donald Trump in a general election. But one page included attacks on the electability of Warren, as well as Joe Biden and Pete Buttigieg.
The language was pulled because it was sloppily worded, a Sanders official said, confirming that the script was an official campaign document.
Also from the article:
On Sunday, the Sanders campaign provided a new script and instructed officials in early states to stop giving volunteers the old one, according to two Sanders officials. A Warren aide told POLITICO that her campaign appreciated Sanders pulling the talking points and that they hoped to move on.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)coined by some one in the Trump Campaign. Noticed these slugs testing talking points for the last three four months in preparation of either Candidate becoming the Nominee.
Same Trump Campaign as 2016 only the female name changed and Bernie changed to Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,452 posts)Link to tweet
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Will it come up at the debate?
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https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=421111
Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in private 2018 meeting that a woman can't win, sources say
The two agreed that if they ultimately faced each other as presidential candidates, they should remain civil and avoid attacking one another, so as not to hurt the progressive movement.
Ooops.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/13/politics/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-meeting/index.html
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287420981#post5
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
StrictlyRockers
(3,855 posts)Keep posting.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,785 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
VarryOn
(2,343 posts)Even if Sanders said what he's accused of saying, he was expressing an opinion that I think most of us would agree is wrong.
Personally, I find it implausible he would tell Warren "I dont think a woman can win." Even if he tought it, I doubt he'd say it to Elizabeth Warren, of all people.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beastie boy
(9,385 posts)It's as if Bernie and Warren are innocent bystanders in all of this, and some nebulous unknown sinister players with a secretive agenda are trying to drive a wedge between them.
The Sanders/Warren rift was inevitable. It was just a matter of time. They are fighting for the same turf, and they were bound to clash. Everything about them is incompatible: their ideologies, their personalities, their backgrounds. Why is everyone so surprised about this? The only thing that surprises me is that it didn't happen sooner.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TomCADem
(17,390 posts)I guess we should not hold Trump responsible for fueling the racist rhetoric that leads to incidents like the El Paso shooting. When Bernie himself makes statements like Trump can easily beat Biden, then he needs to own the fact that his followers will also embraced his scorched earth rhetoric.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/04/beto-orourke-trump-el-paso-white-nationalist-1445700
The Justice Department on Sunday said it was treating a mass shooting in Texas as domestic terrorism, while 2020 candidates and politicians across the spectrum, frustrated by a string of deadly shootings, battled over President Donald Trumps rhetoric on minorities and whether it is encouraging violence.
Theres a statutory definition of domestic terrorism this meets it, John Bash, the U.S. attorney for West Texas, said at a news conference. It appears to be designed to intimidate a civilian population, to say the least.
Kerri Kupec, a spokeswoman for the Justice Department, followed up on Twitter: At #elpasoshooter press conference, @USAttyBash says working closely with AG Barr, @TheJusticeDept treating as domestic terrorism case. Calls for swift and certain justice. including death penalty.
Democratic candidates were unsparing in assessing blame, with former Rep. Beto ORourke of Texas leading the way. He said on Sunday that responsibility for the shooting in his hometown of El Paso the day before one of two in 24 hours that left at least 29 dead fell on President Donald Trump and his racial rhetoric, accusing the president of encouraging such acts of violence.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden