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Ninga

(8,275 posts)
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 08:08 AM Jan 2020

So in December 2018 Elizabeth Warren invites

Bernie Sanders over to her house, to tell him she is running for President. I imagine snacks coffee and lots of chatting.

So I imagine he respects her and knew right from the get go she would be formidable.

So I imagine that he contemplated how to dissuade her from running and maybe talked about the horrible 2016 campaign. So I imagine he says to her “Liz you’d be a great candidate but I just don’t think a woman can be elected in 2020.”

I believe Liz.

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ritapria

(1,812 posts)
1. Why did this story get released to the Press Now?
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 08:18 AM
Jan 2020

Liz appeared to have had a very warm relationship with Bernie this summer ….Now , she has decided to get offended about a conversation that took place in 2018 ? .. Is she mad that Bernie has moved ahead of her in the polls? … Fact : Bernie urged Liz to run for President in 2015 ...Her deferred his Presidential ambitions in favor of HER .. … Now , we are supposed to believe he told her NOT to run for President because a woman can't get elected to the High Office ? ..... Warren's staffers urged her to de-escalate the conflict and have conceded that his version of the 2018 meeting is closer to the truth than hers ….Yet she chose not to shake his hand ...

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sweetloukillbot

(11,004 posts)
2. I dunno, because Sanders had his canvassers going after her
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 08:27 AM
Jan 2020

You know, the other thing Bernie lied about the past few days?

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Ninga

(8,275 posts)
3. I have no earthly idea who and how the story
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 08:29 AM
Jan 2020

got out.

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BeyondGeography

(39,367 posts)
5. Because Bernie broke the pact and put a half-assed attack script together
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 08:40 AM
Jan 2020
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Ninga

(8,275 posts)
7. Thanks for posting. Context matters.
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 08:58 AM
Jan 2020
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George II

(67,782 posts)
11. "Sloppily worded"? Sloppy or not, those words were the ones given to canvassers by higher ups.....
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:34 PM
Jan 2020

....in the campaign. The script went to people in more than one state. This was not the doing of a "rogue". Campaigns do not put things out like that without the approval of someone on a high level in the campaign.

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
10. "she has decided to get offended about a conversation that took place in 2018 "
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:49 AM
Jan 2020

You apparently didn't read what you are up in arms about.

1. She told friends about the conversation back in December 2018, and one of them leaked it. She didn't suddenly "just decide to get offended about it"

2. Neither she nor anyone else (other than you) has stated that "he told her not to run."

3. Neither she nor her campaign leaked this information. If you have evidence that someone did, and she's lying about it, please do let us see it.

Until then, you seem to be confusing wishful thinking with facts.

Perhaps getting the facts before becoming outraged would not only help one's outlook, but it would help one's credibility.

You're welcome.




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Cha

(297,117 posts)
14. Thanks for that, ehrnst.
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 04:21 PM
Jan 2020
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iwannaknow

(210 posts)
12. I switched from Warren to Sanders this morning.
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 02:12 PM
Jan 2020
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Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
13. I have seen a number of posters with Warren as their preferred candidate who
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 02:23 PM
Jan 2020

sure seem more like Sanders supporters to me-not saying you-but it gives one pause. Sanders went after her in the early states said she was an elitist and used it as a script for canvassing multiple early states which is why her campaign spokesperson said Sanders told Warren he didn't think any woman could be elected president (payback) and I have no doubt Sanders said it. His next mistake was to call her a liar on stage...going to leave a mark. Warren showed guts yesterday and as a result, she is now my second choice in the primary, I would never choose Sanders in any primary...only a general which he won't get to IMHO.

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Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
4. What I note here is
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 08:37 AM
Jan 2020
"So I imagine"

None of us know precisely what was discussed or what words were used by either party.
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Ninga

(8,275 posts)
6. Of course. Just remember one thing Bernie
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 08:56 AM
Jan 2020

is not sexist he supports women’s issues.
He just did not want Liz to run. And used that meme about a woman not winning 2020

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Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
8. Perhaps, perhaps not
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:04 AM
Jan 2020

all I could gather was your opinion of what happened at a private meeting between the two. To my knowledge none of us were there or know what was said.

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Ninga

(8,275 posts)
9. She invited him to her house, what to kick him in the balls? See post above explaining from
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:09 AM
Jan 2020

the horses mouth what Sanders campaign admitted doing.

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