The Sanders/Warren "feud" is a nothing burger created by the media

[garybeck]

If the questions were not asked the way they were, the exchange after the debate never would have happened.

Bernie's answer was spot on. he has a long track record of supporting women, women's rights, and supporting a woman running for president (Hillary) and he repeated that if a woman wins the nomination he will campaign for her. Warren then responded, saying "Bernie is my friend and I didn't come here to get in a feud with him."

The media created this, exaggerated it, and then lit it on fire, starting with the way the question was worded to Bernie and Warren during the debate, and continuing in the way the headlines are worded today.

My prediction, if either of them get the nomination, the other will be the vice president.

[elleng]

1. Right, AGAIN the media wants a show,

and they did such a 'good' job promoting trump, 'media created this, exaggerated it, and then lit it on fire,' and we're all suffering.

[HerbChestnut]

2. The media has been looking for a Warren/Sanders fight from the beginning.

The only people who benefit from this are news stations (ratings) and the Biden campaign (focus is pulled away from his record). Hopefully, everyone can keep their eye on the prize and remember we're fighting for the same things.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

6. + ∞

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[guillaumeb]

11. Exactly.

The media needs the drama of a fight rather than a discussion of the many ways that capitalism has failed working families.

[W_HAMILTON]

18. "The media" didn't start this -- Sanders did.

When he sent out those official campaign talking points trashing Warren and the other candidates. Warren had gone out of her way not to attack the man, even after being baited into doing so, and yet Sanders and his people couldn't help themselves.

[HerbChestnut]

21. Well this is a version of events that doesn't remotely come close to reality.

[W_HAMILTON]

27. Then you might need a reality check.

[pfeiffer]

31. Not reality?!?

Hmmm...then I'm assuming, judging by Elizabeth's angry facial expressions, that she wasn't angry at Bernie but was instead auditioning for the Glenn Close role in the 2020 remake of Fatal Attraction?

[Quackers]

3. Apparently Warren and Sanders don't agree with you.

If it is all just the media’s doing, then two senior politicians are easily manipulated. I don’t believe that. There’s more here than just the press causing issues.

[garybeck]

7. not exactly.

did you see their responses during the debate?

[Quackers]

10. I did. Did you see their actions after the debate?

The media may be piling on, but this is a real tiff between them.

[Thekaspervote]

14. I'm surprised warren didn't see this coming. Bernie has been doing negative campaigning since

2015.why did she think she would be immune??

[Hortensis]

41. :) She couldn't possibly. She's known him for years.

And never to forget that he wooed her but she repeatedly refused to endorse him in 2016. He won't have.

The one thing I agree with is that this is a relative nothingburger. Being a woman is not exactly a great asset for running for president, and this was supposed to be a private conversation.

And there's not even news to it. Everyone knows Sanders has always preferred working with men, or should, and about his problems with women. He's the only candidate whose female staff was so unhappy due to long-term uncorrected sexual harassment and discrimination, and of course for being underpaid, that they finally angrily rebelled. And then the settlement cut their hours instead of raising their hourly rate, so they still couldn't pay their rent. (Btw, Biden's base pay was far higher, more than $15/hour, even though he wasn't raking in the big dough Sanders was.)

What people might take note of while we're on the topic, though, is behaviors like last August when Sanders ascribed Warren's surge in popularity to her being female, denying what everyone knew, that she earned it with her inspiring talks and ideas that many were preferring to his.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

42. One is.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

4. A nothin burger INDEED! BTW, as you can tell, I like your prediction...great minds think alike!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[polmaven]

5. I am in 100% agreement with you.

That has been on my mind for a while now. We will have either a Warren/Sanders of a Sanders/Warren ticket.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

8. WHY DIDNT I THINK OF THAT?!?! OH WAIT, I DID... MANY YEARS AGO!!

Great minds think alike...




Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[djacq]

9. History repeats itself;

[link:https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/evolution-clinton-sanders-feud-over-qualifications-n553046|

[comradebillyboy]

12. Indeed it does...

[boomer_wv]

13. Sorry to bust this fantasy bubble

but it's not just something the media made up. IF it was nothing, Warren could have just shook his hand and smiled. She's clearly mad about something, and she stood up there yesterday right after he said he never said it and told us what she said back.

Essentially, each called the other a liar last night. You can't say that you believe what one is saying without also saying that you think the other is lying.

I also hate to break it to you, but with the way Bernie supporters are treating Warren now, there's no chance they would accept her as a running mate for him. I think it's way more likely he'd pick Rashida Talib than Elizabeth Warren.

[Thekaspervote]

15. Well thank goodness we won't have to worry about Sanders VP choice he won't be the nominee

[boomer_wv]

20. Yes.

Given his track record of hires...it would be monumentally bad.

[Blue_true]

33. There is audio of the conversation. It has been posted on DU.

Sen. Warren said to Sen. Sanders that she thought that he called her a liar on national tv, Sen. Sanders said what? and Sen. Warren repeated that she thought that he had called her a liar on national tv. She was rather clearly pissed.

[boomer_wv]

36. I heard it

about an hour or so after I posted this.

He said the same thing back to her. Like I said, each one is calling the other a liar now.

[The Valley Below]

16. It sure didn't look like a "nothing burger" on stage last night.

[appalachiablue]

17. It's the job of the corpo M$M to take down both, any & all ways.

[myohmy2]

19. "...a nothing burger created by the media"

...yep...

...but it will quickly fade...

...they now have an impeachment trial to chew on...

[BooScout]

22. Were all those nasty tweets...

...under the hastags #NeverWarren, #CNNIsTrash, #PrimaryWarren , etc...that have been plastered all over Twitter today created by the media too? Coz I'm not feeling the love here.

[ehrnst]

39. Yes, it's a real misogynist sewer there now. She's being called the same names Pelosi and HRC were.

Like they were just waiting....

[ismnotwasm]

23. And why the hell did Micheal MOORE jump in that mess?

I’m really confused.

Link to tweet

?s=21

[Mr.Bill]

25. Because it's what he does. It's what all people who make their living by being in the publis eye do.

It's really a form of self-promotion and preserving his relevance.

[ismnotwasm]

30. I agree

It just seems disingenuous of Moore at this point, but he does what he does I guess

[ehrnst]

40. Typical Moore. He needs the publicity, and will fuel whatever fire against a perceived

challenger of Bernie he can.

[Uncle Joe]

24. I believe they want Trump to stay in power despite all their bullshit just for show

commentary.

I don't know about Elizabeth but if Bernie were President I believe he would choose her as his running mate.

Thanks for the thread garybeck.

[Mike Nelson]

26. Not sure about that...

... at any time, either candidate could have said, "I honestly can't say I was wrong, but I might have misunderstood/misspoke. No person on my staff will bring this up again, and I'm moving on." That candidate would be praised.

[bearsfootball516]

28. So their whole handshake thing after the debate was just imaginary?

[Bradshaw3]

32. The Biden people want to keep it going

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/15/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-feud-democrats

[ismnotwasm]

34. Micheal Moore is NOT "Biden People"

[Bradshaw3]

37. Michael Moore is on here as a Biden supporter?

OK.

[ismnotwasm]

38. What?

Micheal Moore thinks this ridiculous “feud” is v a big important thing. Well. It is now

[democrattotheend]

35. Agreed! Remember "Snubgate" from 2008?

This reminds me of that nonsense: https://archives.cjr.org/campaign_desk/ay_theres_the_snub.php