Democratic Primaries

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts) Wed Jan 22, 2020, 03:11 PM Jan 2020

Different Day Different Surrogate Same Smear - Are They Taking Turns?

The deliberate obtuseness over Biden's VP statement is new though. So, kudos AOC!

Trump suggested Medicare and Social Security are the 'easiest' things to cut. Democrats pounced.

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"President Trump backtracked Wednesday on his 2016 campaign promise to protect funding for entitlements like Medicare and Social Security, suggesting in an interview with CNBC that he would be open to slashing "at some point" them since they're "the easiest" thing to cut.

Well, unsurprisingly, that didn't sit well with his Democratic opponents, who quickly pounced on the comment."

https://theweek.com/speedreads/890931/trump-suggested-medicare-social-security-are-easiest-things-cut-democrats-pounced

AOC hasn't commented yet, possibly because it wasn't carried in the Intercept and she hasn't seen it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Different Day Different Surrogate Same Smear - Are They Taking Turns? (Original Post) Scurrilous Jan 2020 OP

The sad thing is I am not far from these folks on long-term policy goals. MH1 Jan 2020 #1

the goal of some is to make SURE no Democrat EVER sits in the WH again. Unless it is... Eliot Rosewater Jan 2020 #26

Focus DownriverDem Jan 2020 #2

This is what so many are missing. Current EC maps show only one candidate above 270 Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #6

Early GE polls mean nothing Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #17

Great ad! Thanks and K/R Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #3

What ad? Scurrilous Jan 2020 #5

They will take every chance they get to knock the front runner down...sorry!! Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #7

The one you shared. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #14

This ad is just another lie from sanders and his pack of liars Gothmog Jan 2020 #12

Sanders was not talking. Joe was. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #13

sanders is a liar and the ad is false just all of sanders ads Gothmog Jan 2020 #15

Thanks for your opinion. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #16

I am pointing out facts Gothmog Jan 2020 #20

I dont see any facts, rather your opinion of what you think the fact are. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #21

Why did sanders call for cuts to social security? Gothmog Jan 2020 #30

BREAKING: @BernieSanders called for "adjustments" to Social Security in 1996, a term that his Cha Jan 2020 #36

I'm enjoying it now! Scurrilous Jan 2020 #44

K and R! Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #4

BREAKING: @BernieSanders called for "adjustments" to Social Security in Cha Jan 2020 #35

Yes. It is a concerted campaign based on lies and dirty-tricks. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #8

Right there with ya!! What respectable voter would go for the lies and hate!! Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #9

Two kinds of voters fall for Skidmore Jan 2020 #18

Does sanders and his staff of liars get tired of being exposed as liars? Gothmog Jan 2020 #10

Good grief. Freezes or cuts are not acceptable no matter what. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #19

Why did sanders call for cuts to social security? Gothmog Jan 2020 #32

Biden said freezes not adjustments Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #37

LOL Gothmog Jan 2020 #38

Fantastic ad RandiFan1290 Jan 2020 #11

BREAKING: @BernieSanders called for "adjustments" to Social Security in Cha Jan 2020 #34

I'm starting to feel blood boiling hatred for the Sanders Smear factory. They're just disgusting. writes3000 Jan 2020 #22

Facts are facts. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #23

Bernie actually needed to apologize for his team because they're being so disgusting. writes3000 Jan 2020 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #27

yeah, BS campaign needs to Learn that... Cha Jan 2020 #43

She needs to get on the Google and search George W Bush and Iraq. BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #24

Yup, tag team in full operation peggysue2 Jan 2020 #28

A Tulsi, Jill Stein supporter: Scurrilous Jan 2020 #29

Why did sanders call for cuts to social security? Gothmog Jan 2020 #31

I think the turn taking may be over. Scurrilous Jan 2020 #40

Of course they are.. they think the more Cha Jan 2020 #33

AOC just needs to go away NYMinute Jan 2020 #39

Fred Guttenberg@aoc.. Cha Jan 2020 #41

She should go be an independent. And why is she straight up lying? It's also the weirdest NYC UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #42

MH1

(17,573 posts)

1. The sad thing is I am not far from these folks on long-term policy goals.

Reply to Scurrilous (Original post)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 03:17 PM

Jan 2020

On most policy issues, my long-term ideals are (what some would call) extremely liberal.

But the further they go to smear Democrats who can actually win in this unfortunately not-so-liberal country, the more they disgust me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Eliot Rosewater

(31,104 posts)

26. the goal of some is to make SURE no Democrat EVER sits in the WH again. Unless it is...

Reply to MH1 (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 05:16 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

DownriverDem

(6,223 posts)

2. Focus

Reply to Scurrilous (Original post)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 03:17 PM

Jan 2020

on who can win enough states in November to beat trump. Too many folks seem to be supporting their "like" without regard to who can win in November.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Thekaspervote

(32,682 posts)

6. This is what so many are missing. Current EC maps show only one candidate above 270

Reply to DownriverDem (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 03:28 PM

Jan 2020

Biden 307
Sanders 230
Warren 192

?s=21

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)

17. Early GE polls mean nothing

Reply to Thekaspervote (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 04:28 PM

Jan 2020

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/should-we-take-these-early-general-election-polls-seriously-no/

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)

3. Great ad! Thanks and K/R

Reply to Scurrilous (Original post)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 03:18 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)

5. What ad?

Reply to Tiggeroshii (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 03:25 PM

Jan 2020

I posted this for the comments.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Thekaspervote

(32,682 posts)

7. They will take every chance they get to knock the front runner down...sorry!!

Reply to Scurrilous (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 03:29 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)

14. The one you shared.

Reply to Scurrilous (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 04:26 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Gothmog

(144,845 posts)

12. This ad is just another lie from sanders and his pack of liars

Reply to Tiggeroshii (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 04:24 PM

Jan 2020

It is sad that sanders is unable to tell the truth

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)

13. Sanders was not talking. Joe was.

Reply to Gothmog (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 04:25 PM

Jan 2020

You are calling the wrong campaign a liar.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Gothmog

(144,845 posts)

15. sanders is a liar and the ad is false just all of sanders ads

Reply to Tiggeroshii (Reply #13)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 04:26 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)

16. Thanks for your opinion.

Reply to Gothmog (Reply #15)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 04:27 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Gothmog

(144,845 posts)

20. I am pointing out facts

Reply to Tiggeroshii (Reply #16)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 04:36 PM

Jan 2020

It is sanders and his crew of liars who are making a false claim

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)

21. I dont see any facts, rather your opinion of what you think the fact are.

Reply to Gothmog (Reply #20)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 04:42 PM

Jan 2020

Thanks!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Gothmog

(144,845 posts)

30. Why did sanders call for cuts to social security?

Reply to Tiggeroshii (Reply #21)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 07:00 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(296,689 posts)

36. BREAKING: @BernieSanders called for "adjustments" to Social Security in 1996, a term that his

Reply to Tiggeroshii (Reply #16)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 07:08 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)

44. I'm enjoying it now!

Reply to Tiggeroshii (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 09:24 PM

Jan 2020

You're welcome.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,308 posts)

4. K and R!

Reply to Scurrilous (Original post)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 03:21 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Cha

(296,689 posts)

35. BREAKING: @BernieSanders called for "adjustments" to Social Security in

Reply to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 07:06 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)

8. Yes. It is a concerted campaign based on lies and dirty-tricks.

Reply to Scurrilous (Original post)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 03:30 PM

Jan 2020

This is way way to lose an election, not a way to win.

I'm beyond being disgusted.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Thekaspervote

(32,682 posts)

9. Right there with ya!! What respectable voter would go for the lies and hate!!

Reply to The Valley Below (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 03:32 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)

18. Two kinds of voters fall for

Reply to The Valley Below (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 04:29 PM

Jan 2020

that type of dirty trick and they are somewhat indistinguishable any more.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Gothmog

(144,845 posts)

10. Does sanders and his staff of liars get tired of being exposed as liars?

Reply to Scurrilous (Original post)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 04:22 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)

19. Good grief. Freezes or cuts are not acceptable no matter what.

Reply to Gothmog (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 04:33 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Gothmog

(144,845 posts)

32. Why did sanders call for cuts to social security?

Reply to Tiggeroshii (Reply #19)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 07:01 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)

37. Biden said freezes not adjustments

Reply to Gothmog (Reply #32)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 07:27 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Gothmog

(144,845 posts)

38. LOL

Reply to Tiggeroshii (Reply #37)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 07:47 PM

Jan 2020

This will be fun to watch. Will sanders have to apologize again?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

RandiFan1290

(6,221 posts)

11. Fantastic ad

Reply to Scurrilous (Original post)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 04:24 PM

Jan 2020

Thanks for the link

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Cha

(296,689 posts)

34. BREAKING: @BernieSanders called for "adjustments" to Social Security in

Reply to RandiFan1290 (Reply #11)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 07:04 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

writes3000

(4,734 posts)

22. I'm starting to feel blood boiling hatred for the Sanders Smear factory. They're just disgusting.

Reply to Scurrilous (Original post)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 04:47 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)

23. Facts are facts.

Reply to writes3000 (Reply #22)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 04:57 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

writes3000

(4,734 posts)

25. Bernie actually needed to apologize for his team because they're being so disgusting.

Reply to Tiggeroshii (Reply #23)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 05:14 PM

Jan 2020

MANY of his supporters cheerfully voted against our nominee last year.

Looks like they’re running the same game this time.

And the Russians and Trump are thrilled. Congrats.

Facts are facts.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Response to writes3000 (Reply #25)

Tiggeroshii This message was self-deleted by its author.

Cha

(296,689 posts)

43. yeah, BS campaign needs to Learn that...

Reply to Tiggeroshii (Reply #23)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 09:12 PM

Jan 2020

FALSE!

BREAKING: @BernieSanders called for “adjustments” to Social Security in 1996, a term that his campaign insists was used by Biden. More hypocrisy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

BannonsLiver

(16,282 posts)

24. She needs to get on the Google and search George W Bush and Iraq.

Reply to Scurrilous (Original post)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 05:03 PM

Jan 2020

There is a lot of confusion with some when it comes to responsibility for Iraq.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

peggysue2

(10,819 posts)

28. Yup, tag team in full operation

Reply to Scurrilous (Original post)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 05:28 PM

Jan 2020

And the whiff of desperation is pungent. Btw, a small tip about 'facts' found on the internet. Anyone who has done research knows that if you take everything you read on the Web as 'fact'? You're going to be very embarrassed, as in discounted as a shoddy researcher.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)

29. A Tulsi, Jill Stein supporter:

Reply to peggysue2 (Reply #28)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 06:21 PM

Jan 2020

Ambass@Ambassnick
·
Jan 21

According to the picture, he introduced 5000 plus bills 200 of which became law.

Arguing over Bernie's legislative accomplishments this guy says 'according to the picture.' The picture in question was a graphic with totally wrong numbers on it, but 'according to the picture.'

Bernie actually had 7 bills passed, not 200.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Gothmog

(144,845 posts)

31. Why did sanders call for cuts to social security?

Reply to Scurrilous (Original post)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 07:00 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)

40. I think the turn taking may be over.

Reply to Gothmog (Reply #31)

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 09:02 PM

Jan 2020

And the folks at Glenn Greenwald's The Intercept - which was sourced in Zephyr Teachout & AOC's hit pieces - might be napping because there's nothing about Bernie's efforts to destroy Social Security on their website.