Let's look at the electoral track record of the Bernie coalition

[scheming daemons]

In 2018, when running in GOP-held districts:


Our Revolution went 0–27
Justice Democrats went 0–18
Brand New Congress went 0–6.



Bernie Sanders not only hurts us in the Presidential election... but candidates that explicitly are with him failed to flip a single House seat in 2018.


We are looking at a Corbyn-style thumping across the board if we are foolish enough to nominate Sanders.


MODERATES flipped 39 of the 41 House seats that we won. We control the House specifically because moderates appealed to suburban whites who turned on the GOP and Trump.

We will keep those voters if we nominate Biden or Klobuchar. We will lose them if we nominate Sanders or Warren.

A Bernie nomination might give the House back to the GOP too. A disaster in the making.

[pfeiffer]

1. I agree 1000%!

[Cha]

2. Yeah.. not good.

[pfeiffer]

3. Quinnipiac TODAY

BREAKING
based on the new Quinipiac poll
Best chance of winning against Donald Trump:

@JoeBiden
= 44 %
Sanders -19 %
Bloomberg= 9 %

Best leader: Biden 31 %
Sanders 18 %
Warren=17%

So there you go...

[Thekaspervote]

4. Why is it the numbers seem to elude.. they just aren't there for sanders!!

Isn’t the main goal to remove dotard?? I guess it wouldn’t seem so with some!!

Not only lose the presidency but possibly congress...the best chance to retake the senate is 2022, but that won’t happen either

[Fresh_Start]

5. wasn't AOC an our revolution candidate?

she won so those statistics can't be right.

[MH1]

7. The post is about flipping R to D.

See my post below.

[Fresh_Start]

13. I missed the R to D flip so sorry nt

nt

[scheming daemons]

9. She didn't flip a red seat, she kept a blue seat

Bernie's coalition didn't flip a single red seat to blue.


AOC is in a district where a pile of dog crap with a (D) next to it would defeat any Republican by 20 points.

[Fresh_Start]

14. I missed the R to D flip qualifier so sorry nt

I missed the R to D flip so sorry nt

[Thekaspervote]

10. I assure you they are!!

Link to tweet

?s=21

[Fresh_Start]

15. I missed the R to D flip qualifier so sorry nt

nt

[Cha]

44. Mahalo for that, Kasper!

[sheshe2]

16. Blue, very blue district.

[Fresh_Start]

18. i'm very sorry I missed the Red to Blue flip qualifier

yes, she was in a very blue district

[sheshe2]

20. No problem,Fresh_Start.

I have done the same thing.

[Demsrule86]

33. She won a deep blue district...no flipping.She is facing a primary.

[MH1]

6. I was surprised, and looked up Justice Democrats.

Wikipedia has 7 for 79 overall for JD endorsements (still quite low), then notes the 7 were D seats. So for flipping seats, your zero number holds up. (Just checking. I immediately thought AOC, but should have realized that was a solid D seat so not counted for your stats.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_Democrats

In the 2018 elections, 26 of the 79 candidates endorsed by Justice Democrats won their respective primary elections. Seven of these candidates won in the general election: Raúl Grijalva, Ro Khanna, Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and Pramila Jayapal. All seven won districts already held by Democrats. Khanna and Jayapal were both first elected in 2016 before joining Justice Democrats, and Grijalva was first elected to the U.S. House of Representatives in 2002.

[Blue_true]

24. Justice Democrats won only in really blue districts.

That should serve as alarm bells. Most of the district's we have to win nationally are purple, with a few red thrown into the mix.

[DanTex]

8. Not sure how it adds up to zero when AOC (at least) won.

[scheming daemons]

11. AOC didn't flip a red seat to blue

Justice Democrats didnt flip a single seat.


AOC won a seat that was already solid blue and which literally any Dem defeats any GOP by at least 20.

[sheshe2]

17. Blue district, very blue.

[ehrnst]

19. The voter turnout in her district was incredibly low, and her primary opponent just wasn't trying.

She's being primaried, which makes sense, since she promotes primarying incumbent Democrats who don't walk lockstep with Justice Democrats.

[Blue_true]

26. If a person named Elizabeth Crowley enters the race, AOC could not make it out

of the democratic primary. One problem that someone on DU pointed out is that AOC has been weak on constituent services, Elizabeth Crowley has held political office and the note on her is that she is strong in that area, plus she is fairly young at 42.

[Blue_true]

25. She was in a district that was certain to elect the winner of the democratic

primary. All the other Justice Democrats were in similar districts. People like Lauren Underwood and others won in red or purple districts, a much tougher feat.

[Demsrule86]

35. You know why. You are a smart guy. That district is deep deep blue.

You support Sanders because you think he can win and detest Biden. But sanders won't win the startes we need. Biden is the only candidate that can win those states. Sanders is underwater in Virginia snd Delaware for God`s sake.

[DanTex]

36. I don't detest Biden. I like Biden.

[Demsrule86]

39. I find that hard to believe. But OK. I also don't see how you think Sanders wins. I read

some of your old posts...just curious. They were quite good. I don't think we win even moderate voters with Sanders. The house is at risk too.

[DanTex]

40. I don't see why. All I've said is that he has supported SS cuts in the past.

Which is obviously true. I still like him, it's just a plain fact that he doesn't have as strong a record on Social Security as Bernie.

My old posts, yeah I've been around since almost the start of DU. 2000 was my first election, I'm still mad at Nader. And I'm still against purity tests and stupid attacks against Democrats.

I was for Obama 08 and Clinton 16. I see a lot of similarities between Clinton 16 and Sanders 20, in the way that there seems to be a wave of unhinged hatred against them. It's odd, because they are different kinds of candidates. But the stuff people do where they try to dig up any silly association or take any little thing out of context to attack the candidate. They did it to Clinton in 16, and they're doing it to Bernie now.

Like, Clinton was a "neoliberal shill" because she was friends with someone who once worked with a Republican, or whatever. Or now, Bernie is some "racist" because his wife tweeted a video made by a guy who a decade ago made a parody video using MLK. That kind of silly hate-based attack on Democrats does nothing but help Republicans, it was true in 16, and it's true now.

[LanternWaste]

41. "All I've said is that..." You honestly think people will buy that?

You honestly think people will buy that?

Or did you write that simply for yourself?

(my guess is it's a combo of the two)

[DanTex]

42. People will believe what they believe.

But, yeah, I do like Joe Biden, even though he has been in favor of Social Security cuts in the past.

[Demsrule86]

12. He is not winning the nomination...posted the new polls...no surge...and by the way those who

posted RCP must have picked and chosen states because the average doesn't show Sanders winning. posted all the major polls.

[Gothmog]

21. Sanders is a weak candidate and would kill down ballot candidates

[Cha]

22. Yeah, let's do.

[Gothmog]

23. sanders has a lousy track record which is why down ballot candidates do not want him as nominee

[betsuni]

27. K&R

[evertonfc]

28. His politics

Just doesn't win in middle America.

[Scurrilous]

29. Bernie couldn't flip a wig. And he continually talks shit about Democrats and the Democratic party.

Can't be said enough - Running Sanders Against Trump Would Be an Act of Insanity.

[DanieRains]

30. Bernie Would Have Beaten Trump By 12 Points

According to election day poll.

Would beat Trump by 20 now.

My opinion.

A lifetime spent fighting for the little guy matters to lots of folks.

Bernie would beat Trump like a dirty rug on a clothesline.

Without corporate cash.

I like all our real candidates but I know who has my back.

I dont care what 3rd way scum says either.

[emmaverybo]

31. A lifetime fighting for the little guy, but what did he accomplish for HIM? And in his lifetime

career he never connected with black communities and leaders. Just who is this “little guy?” Gather he’s not a woman and not African-American.

[Demsrule86]

37. Bulshit. He wasn't campaigning or facing GOP attacks. And we lost

In the blue wall states. He would never win.

[brooklynite]

38. An election day poll after Sanders hadn't been through a campaign with Trump.

[wyldwolf]

32. ...and that's just in 2016

[NCProgressive]

34. Those who believe in unicorns, hell frozen over and pigs flying

would support a magical candidate with no track record.

[Gothmog]

43. Joe Biden is the best candidate to help win down ballot races

Link to tweet

[Scurrilous]

45. ...