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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:05 AM Jan 2020

We know that Trump is scared to death of Joe Biden... question is why?


I mean... Trump committed impeachable offenses to stop the guy. He hasn't done anything like that with any other Democratic candidate.

I believe they really think sizeable chunks of their base - the under-educated whites making less than $75k per year - will have no problem voting for Biden. Biden is a "working man's" Democrat. He has bonafides with them.

I think they know they literally have no path to win Pennsylvania or Michigan or Wisconsin if Biden is the nominee.

Trump is going to Iowa tomorrow night *SPECIFICALLY* to try to bring Joe Biden down. Biden will be the focus of his rally.

The only other candidate that Trump fears at all is Bloomberg - and mainly because he could never keep up with Bloomberg's campaign spending.

They aren't afraid of Bernie Sanders. They aren't afraid of Liz Warren. They aren't afraid of Pete Buttigieg. They might be afraid of Amy Klobuchar, but they don't think she has a chance of winning the nomination.

Biden has street cred with the black community that no other remaining candidate can come close to. Because of his 8 years as Obama's VP, they trust him. No other candidate left in the race will be trusted by the black community like Biden. A Biden/Harris ticket would drive black turnout back to 2012 levels.

Trump is stupid. But his campaign is not. They know this. They know they need to nip Biden in the bud, because if he is leading after Super Tuesday, he'll be inevitable.

As much as I think Amy Klobuchar would make the best President of our bunch of candidates... I fear that unless she has a major surprise in Iowa and finishes in the Top 2, she will begin the slow decline as her supporters - like me - start to coalesce around Biden.

Trump is showing us who would beat him by showing us who he fears. He fears Joe Biden would rehabilitate the Obama coalition and beat him.

To Trump, stopping Biden means elevating Bernie. Let's not fall for it.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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We know that Trump is scared to death of Joe Biden... question is why? (Original Post) scheming daemons Jan 2020 OP
Agree Joinfortmill Jan 2020 #1
Putin is scared of JB Mme. Defarge Jan 2020 #2
+1! 2naSalit Jan 2020 #5
yeah.. they have excellent reasons to be Cha Jan 2020 #3
You've got it. In addition to being well liked--if not loved--by almost all The Valley Below Jan 2020 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #6
Superb analysis high-lighting Joe's main strengths as a stand-out candidate. His place in many emmaverybo Jan 2020 #13
Joe ritapria Jan 2020 #7
hey, rita.. you forgot to List all they will have on BS.. he Cha Jan 2020 #14
Correct. Being anti-Obama and anti-trade is not a winning formula. OneMoreCupOfCoffee Jan 2020 #16
Well Thank you, OMCOC.. Excellent points. Cha Jan 2020 #17
rita.. BS Backing The CRIME BILL.. Cha Jan 2020 #15
You've responded to someone's question possibly, but certainly not the OP here. LanternWaste Jan 2020 #24
They know Joe is their greatest danger. NanceGreggs Jan 2020 #8
Two words: Swing states. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #9
Yep. Biden is going to speak about this tomorrow flamingdem Jan 2020 #10
Biden is straight, white, male and Christian. Trump's nightmare. Kablooie Jan 2020 #11
As long as he attacks tRump and not others safeinOhio Jan 2020 #12
any dem candidate trump* supports is doomed.. samnsara Jan 2020 #18
Biden IS the Anti-Trump! MineralMan Jan 2020 #19
This! OneMoreCupOfCoffee Jan 2020 #22
+100 MineralMan Jan 2020 #23
That's not what Trump says in private. I guess we can try to read his mind. DanTex Jan 2020 #20
He doesn't want to get beaten like a drum. Scurrilous Jan 2020 #21
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #25
Not scared to death, just hates that he was Obama's VP so he wants to make sure he loses if he's the JudyM Jan 2020 #26
 

Mme. Defarge

(9,053 posts)
2. Putin is scared of JB
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:12 AM
Jan 2020

for the same reasons he wanted Hillary to lose.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(320,590 posts)
3. yeah.. they have excellent reasons to be
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:14 AM
Jan 2020

scared of Biden. Losing Losing Losing..

What's a little absurd.. is trying to push that it's BS that #45IMPEACHED doesn't want for the Dem nom.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
4. You've got it. In addition to being well liked--if not loved--by almost all
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:21 AM
Jan 2020

the segments of our democratic coalition, Joe Biden is someone who working people relate with. And that's across ethnic lines, but includes the white working class that Trump needs in industrial states to win.

His support in the black community is profoundly deep and comes out of long relationships where they've come to know the man.

Jewish voters, Catholic voters, Latinx voters all know Joe Biden is someone who will have their backs.

And in terms of matchups, it is like Biden was custom made to defeat Trump. Trump's insult simply do not work on Joe Biden. They just don't. He and Speaker Pelosi are the two people who seem immune to Trump's childish behavior and his bullying tactics.

Biden knows how to deal with bullies. Some people think that because he's held his fire on fellow Democrats when on a debate stage that Joe doesn't know how to deal a knock-out blow to fools like Trump. Nothing could be a more grave mistake.

He's ready. He will win. And his coat-tails will provide huge benefits in low ballot races like Arizona's Senate seat.

I hope he picks Amy as VP. That's looking like the strongest ticket we have, in my estimation.

Biden is the man for this moment.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to The Valley Below (Reply #4)

 

emmaverybo

(8,148 posts)
13. Superb analysis high-lighting Joe's main strengths as a stand-out candidate. His place in many
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 04:06 AM
Jan 2020

an American heart, our collective affections, transcends policy distinctions and makes for an advantage not shared by other candidates despite their many plusses. Opponents can poke fun at nostalgia and attempt to dismiss the longing for stability as mere fear, but along with
a resume full of experience and tangible accomplishment, Biden connects us to the sense of a better America striving for greater inclusion and compassion, yes, a safer world. Now that’s also a great vision for the future.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ritapria

(1,812 posts)
7. Joe
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:41 AM
Jan 2020

Joe was Pro- NAFTA , Pro TPP ...He guided the Bankruptcy Bill through the Senate ..He has supported proposed Cuts in Social Security and Medicare during his entire Senate career- as well as during his tenure as Vice President (Remember The Grand Bargain ? ) . ...He supported the Iraq War Resolution …. It is all on CSPAN's Senate Archives ….. Trump's campaign is going to blanket the airwaves with this stuff ......The blue collar and working class voters in The Rust Belt know nothing of Joe's record - but they soon will find out if he becomes the nominee …. The Trump Campaign is poised and ready to strike ...….African- Americans will be shocked to their core when Trump's campaign informs them of Biden's key role in getting the Infamous Crime Bill passed into law … They will also be reminded of Joe's treatment of Anita Hill during the Clarence Thomas Senate Confirmation Hearings ……… This is not a replay of 2016 ...Hillary was tough , poised and demonstrated a far superior temperament than Joe has shown thus far on the Campaign trail ….Millions of women desperately wanted to see the Election of a woman to the Highest Office ….This is not a replay of 2016 ...It will be far worse ….

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cha

(320,590 posts)
14. hey, rita.. you forgot to List all they will have on BS.. he
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 04:07 AM
Jan 2020

has a long long jhistory and he will not be immune.

Oh and Pro TTP is a good thing.. just because BS didn't like.. President Obama got the best deal for us and Fucking trump screwed it all to fucking hell.

Joe Biden is a Winner.. and that's who we Want for POTUS.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OneMoreCupOfCoffee

(314 posts)
16. Correct. Being anti-Obama and anti-trade is not a winning formula.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 04:22 AM
Jan 2020

Biden is a winner.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(320,590 posts)
17. Well Thank you, OMCOC.. Excellent points.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 04:50 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(320,590 posts)
15. rita.. BS Backing The CRIME BILL..
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 04:16 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
24. You've responded to someone's question possibly, but certainly not the OP here.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:59 AM
Jan 2020

You're displaying an amazing lack of relevance as well as objectivity in regards to the OP.

But I dig the consistent improvements in your conversational English.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NanceGreggs

(27,835 posts)
8. They know Joe is their greatest danger.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:44 AM
Jan 2020

In politics, perception is everything. And the perception of Joe is that he represents the stability of the no-drama-Obama years, which appeals more and more to a populace that is fed-up with the never-ending scandals-de-jour they’ve been living with for the past three years.

After eight years as VP, Joe’s been there, done that. He’s dealt with domestic policy and foreign policy. He is well-respected by our allies. He is seen as a voice of reason – as opposed to the narcissistic, self-serving idiot they are currently forced to deal with.

I am a Biden supporter – and I am not saying that there are other Democratic candidates who aren’t “up to the job”. But you can’t deny that Joe has an edge when it comes to the perception of voters who see him as having WH experience, and the perception that the country was stable and scandal-free at the time he was in office.

The GOP knows this. They know that the public’s perception of Joe is far more positive than negative. That makes Joe an opponent who must be taken down before November.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
9. Two words: Swing states. nt
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:54 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

flamingdem

(40,980 posts)
10. Yep. Biden is going to speak about this tomorrow
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:59 AM
Jan 2020

Should be an important moment. For us all.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kablooie

(19,121 posts)
11. Biden is straight, white, male and Christian. Trump's nightmare.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:44 AM
Jan 2020

It means Trump could not use his primary tactic of stoking prejudice against his rival.
He would have to compete on ability and ideas which are the areas he's totally ill equipped to deal with.




If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

safeinOhio

(38,052 posts)
12. As long as he attacks tRump and not others
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 04:01 AM
Jan 2020

I will most likely vote for him. I won't decide for a while yet.

Those that spend any time attacking others, except trump, will not get my vote.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

samnsara

(18,781 posts)
18. any dem candidate trump* supports is doomed..
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 07:36 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(151,557 posts)
19. Biden IS the Anti-Trump!
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:42 AM
Jan 2020

That's why. He is entirely the opposite of Donald J. Trump. In his demeanor, integrity, and speech, he represents something that is precisely contradictory to Trump.

That is his strongest characteristic. That is what will make him the obvious choice to a wide range of voters in November. And November is all that matters, to be quite frank.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OneMoreCupOfCoffee

(314 posts)
22. This!
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:49 AM
Jan 2020

Joe Biden IS the Anti-Trump.

He stands in bright contrast with a man who is unhinged to principles.

Biden is the person for this moment.

He will beat Trump. And he will deliver real progress.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
20. That's not what Trump says in private. I guess we can try to read his mind.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:46 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
21. He doesn't want to get beaten like a drum.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:48 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

 

JudyM

(29,785 posts)
26. Not scared to death, just hates that he was Obama's VP so he wants to make sure he loses if he's the
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 08:13 PM
Jan 2020

nominee. Occam’s razor. It’s the simplest explanation.

We have witnessed him intentionally going after anything associated with Obama.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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