Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumSo, let me get this straight: The DNC is rigging the system against Bernie by ... helping Bloomberg?
Shouldn't it be Biden who's the most upset here? How is this rigging the system against Bernie when the DNC lifting its donor requirements is going to put up a moderate Bloomberg on stage - literally Biden's biggest moderate threat?
I mean, this is bat-shit conspiracy stuff, folks. Or it's Bernie just whining for whining sake, because having Bloomberg on stage actually HELPS him, since the two aren't likely going after the same voter demographics.
But whatever. I guess anything to complain about a rigged system in a party you don't even claim to be a member of.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
judeling
(1,086 posts)But every Candidate remaining after NH will want to be able to confront Bloomberg without having to Spend $100,000,000.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TomCADem
(17,382 posts)It seems like Bernie is still copying Trump's playbook. Talking about favorable polls. Attack Democrats. Complain about media bias. Complain that the election process is rigged.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-s-rigged-election-claims-raise-historical-alarms-n667831
Historians say Trump's sustained effort to call the process into question has no close parallel in past elections. And some are increasingly worried that his claims for which he's offered no real evidence could leave many of his supporters unwilling to accept the election results, potentially triggering violence and dangerously undermining faith in American democracy.
Day after day at rallies, in interviews and on Twitter Trump and several top backers have hammered the message that a victory for Hillary Clinton would be illegitimate. Trump has frequently suggested that widespread voter fraud will swing the election, and he has urged his supporters to closely monitor the voting process.
In a tweet Monday, he declared that there's "large-scale voter fraud happening on and before election day." In fact, numerous studies have shown that in-person voter fraud is vanishingly rare.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mike Nelson
(9,944 posts)... Bernie. We saw this last time. Some early states, like IA and NH favor him... he does well in caucus states because his supporters are some of the most passionate. The DNC knew this from last time... and, yes, Bloomberg is going after Biden voters, not Bernie voters!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Whether it helps or hurts Bernie is arguable, but that's not the point. When other candidates like Booker and Tulsi asked for debate rule changes so they could appear, the DNC said no. But now they change the rules for a billionaire who supported George W Bush.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
squirecam
(2,706 posts)There were no exceptions earlier.
Bloomberg could have dropped 20 million into New Hampshire and won a single delegate, which would have got him into the debates. Instead, he spent $ in the Super Tuesday states. That was his decision.
Bloomberg should not get special rules just for him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Horizens
(637 posts)isn't a democrat and should STFU re party internal matters.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JudyM
(29,204 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Horizens
(637 posts)He can't be a member of the party leadership if he's not a democrat. And he's simply and obviously not a democrat.
FYI: Pelosi and Schumer are the party leaders.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JudyM
(29,204 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
i feel like I'm talking to a republican who doesn't know what he/she is talking about so just makes shite up.
The Dem leadership team is something, a phrase, you just made up.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(11,972 posts)You're right, Bloomberg's presence hurts Biden more than it hurts Sanders.
I suppose the reason Sanders is against changing the rules so a billionaire can compete is simply because (being Bernie) he just thinks it's wrong. Not every position someone takes must be out of personal self-interest. He's against people buying their way onto the stage, that's who he is, and he'll complain about it, even if he'd be the beneficiary of it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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highplainsdem
(48,918 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Baclava
(12,047 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,918 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Baclava
(12,047 posts)"The DNC didn't change the rules to ensure good, diverse candidates could remain on the debate stage. They shouldn't change the rules to let a billionaire on. Billionaires shouldn't be allowed to play by different rules"- Elizabeth Warren
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JudyM
(29,204 posts)of seeing any problem.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)The individual contribution limit is $2,700 per election. Bernie has drawn up a pledge (ROFL) which he is demanding other candidates sign, limiting persons working in wide swaths of healthcare industry to $200.00. He knows he isn't going to get shit from them, he's trying to take away their jobs. And you know they're going to fight him for their jobs and contribute to his opponents. So he tries to make his own rules to benefit himself. Whither that principle here?
Manbun mob descends dancing to the tune of Bernie's principal flute: "Why ACA Biden take filthy lucre of evil for-profit?" "Hypothetical M4A the true way."
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,875 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
msongs
(67,365 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)It will get worse if he starts falling behind on delegate counts. I can't say that I trust him motives in our primary, though he would be far superior to Trump as President.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Fall back position after he loses (again), exalted leader of the rigged DNC derps.
Remember how they claimed DWS used her leadership position at the DNC to rig the Florida primaries in 2016 for Hillary? In a state long infused with Republicans at every political level.
DWS is no longer leadership, Bernie third in Florida polls. LOL
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Also, voters can't cross over in some states, only democrats can vote in our part of the prinary, only Republican's can vote in theirs. Even in this republican led state, there is no need for leaders to fiddle with the primaries.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,939 posts)sanders latest charge is really sad and silly
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JudyM
(29,204 posts)Bernie standing up for others has been his M.O. for decades.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)Bloomberg meets all the other criteria and because he will not accept donations at all, a revision had to be made.
It is not like Boomberg was accepting donations and was falling short so rules were amended.
Special circumstances which are unique and exceptional.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)#BernieLogic to go with #Berniemath
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)I think that last one is real.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,875 posts)list but I better not.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)#Overthere you don't have that one cyclically suddenly popular canon that I've had to impanel for so many times during the most recent primaries.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,875 posts)you're talking about.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dustyscamp
(2,223 posts)Disheartened Dems and obviously Rightwing scum are using this as an opening to destroy the party from the inside. They are all over social media right now trying to stoke even more distrust at the DNC and Democrats in general. We better stop this now or I don't see us winning America back.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
aeromanKC
(3,322 posts)I've enjoyed Bloomberg 's anti-Trump commercials so far!! All $200 million of them!! I would enthusiastically vote for him in November.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Russian trolls big time. And , omg, the conspiracy theories.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(50,918 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mitch96
(13,871 posts)He's one of "them" and see Warren and Saunders as a threat to their way of life...
Birds of a feather kinda thing... JUst my opinion....
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden