Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumHillary shouldn't have attacked Bernie. Tlaib shouldn't have booed Hillary for it.
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People on twitter shouldn't attack Tlaib for booing Hillary for attacking Bernie.
And other people on twitter shouldn't attack the people attacking Tlaib for booing Hillary for attacking Bernie.
Instead, everyone should take a step back and de-escalate. These fights don't help anyone but Trump.
ON EDIT: Thank you Rashida Tlaib for taking the high road on this and apologizing. Classy move, shows we can and will unite as a party.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sandensea
(21,635 posts)This is exactly the kind of melodrama the GOPee keep hoping, wishing, and praying would happen more often on our side.
Let's never forget that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)Toxic in all the purple areas and states we need to win.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NBachers
(17,108 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,147 posts)shoe fits.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
at140
(6,110 posts)Un is young, Bernie is old.
Un is fat, Bernie is normal.
Un loves to fire rockets, Bernie wants to reduce military expenses.
Un likes chocolates, Bernie does not gorge on chocolates.
Un likes Trump, Bernie does not.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
still_one
(92,190 posts)the Democratic party for some time now
This nothing new, and will cost them in the Democratic primary
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Quixote1818
(28,934 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,767 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Quixote1818
(28,934 posts)winner which is not an uncommon tactic of candidates.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,758 posts)Supporting ie: campaigning for is one thing. She is a Democrat and she will indeed vote for the Democratic nominee, I have no doubt.
There was a tweet from Jane Sanders account. Pretty sure I remember it verbatim.
"It doesn't matter who we voted for, it only matters that we voted."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Buzz cook
(2,471 posts)Stick her personal animus into the election and risk alienating a large portion of voters?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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DanTex
(20,709 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)She is the problem.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
squirecam
(2,706 posts)HRC too.
The divisiveness went both ways.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JudyM
(29,241 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JudyM
(29,241 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Makes ZERO sense!! Even the slightest division could end up hurting the ultimate nominee against President Pig Vomit, regardless of who it is.
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2020/jan/09/bernie-sanders/did-biden-laud-paul-ryan-proposal-cut-social-secur/
Sanders presidential campaign and allies have highlighted similar remarks by Joe Biden to attack the former vice president and make the explosive charge that Biden was an outspoken proponent of slashing the program.
https://apnews.com/31c432f20acba807a569c7004abaf473
Sanders camp admits anti-Warren script was deployed in multiple early states
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bernie-sanderss-campaign-escalates-fight-with-establishment-democrats-in-reprise-of-2016-party-rifts/2019/04/15/8d6844cc-5f90-11e9-9412-daf3d2e67c6d_story.html
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ripcord
(5,386 posts)Hillary attacked one of the candidates in a very petty way and one of that candidates supporters gave her reaction. Hillary isn't a candidate so attacking her isn't that big a deal, if she is going to shoot off her mouth in an irresponsible way then she has to expect people to react.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Certainly NOTHING compared to the harsh words Hillary had for Bernie.
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Both were wrong. Hillary shouldn't have attacked Bernie. Tlaib shouldn't have escalated with the booing. Instead she should have just said nothing, or maybe that Hillary was wrong but lets move on.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)her mouth and her lack of impulse control is her enemy.
I hope she is primaried.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sheshe2
(83,758 posts)Stepped away from them. She has more courage and determination to change this world than the rest of the squad.
She exposed herself the other day, bared her naked soul and head to the world. Her courage leaves me breathless. She does not need to take pot shots at other women, she knows who she is and is proud of it. I am sure she has been through years of bullying and hatred.
She is one amazing woman.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,767 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)to his defense to say how wrong she was?
If it's the truth, it's not an 'attack.'
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zackymilly
(2,375 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
This "do as I say, not as I do" stuff has gotten old.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)That conduct was wrong
Link to tweet
"I am here tonight because in this election, there is only one person who I trust with [the responsibility of the presidency,]" she said. "Only one person who I believe is truly qualified to be president of the United States. And that is our friend, Hillary Clinton."
Obama was not immune from boos. Sanders supporters booed and began chanting "Bernie! Bernie!" as Obama endorsed Clinton.
Obama seemed to acknowledge them, saying that when Hillary Clinton lost against her husband in 2008, she didn't get "angry or disillusioned."
"Hillary did not pack up and go home, because as a true public servant, Hillary knows this is so much bigger than her own desires and disappointments."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Saying that Bernie's supporters "got sucked in" was also wrong.
All this Dems attacking Dems stuff is totally counterproductive. Tlaib apologized. Hillary should too. And everyone should stop doing this.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)Tlaib's non apology will so weak that it was sad
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)It's WAY overdue - should've been done IMMEDIATELY after Hillary's comments came out, instead of her doubling down - so, even now, it would look like she was pressured into it. But, Hillary should still apologizing anyway... would be a smart political move.
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ahoysrcsm
(787 posts)The reset of us have to deal with getting support from independents and swing voters. My state just recently voted in a Democrat for Governor in 2018. Still slightly purple, we have to work to keep the state in the blue.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasBushwhacker
(20,187 posts)None of the Democrats, or Sanders, should be attacking ANYONE but Trump!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(50,949 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
liskddksil
(2,753 posts)I expect better than that here.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)other squad members from Trump's attacks. Nice pay back.
Stupid. Stupid Stupid
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
elleng
(130,895 posts)and some here don't seem to care about that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)...isn't the issue, Tlaib's behavior is.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)They both need to calm down and stop.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Is a former First Lady, senator, Secretary of State, and nominee.
She is not merely a private citizen. She is not Bob from NJ spouting off on twitter.
She knows the effect her words have.
It isnt helping right now to be divisive. Period. By anyone.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ahoysrcsm
(787 posts)Are you "coordinating an attack" against HRC?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Nt
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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ahoysrcsm
(787 posts)Are you "coordinating an attack" against HRC?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JudyM
(29,241 posts)Unprofessional. Childish. And Sanders refrained from responding and told his team not to respond, as insulting as it was.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
katmondoo
(6,457 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ahoysrcsm
(787 posts)Some of us have to FIGHT FOR OUR Democratic Party.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)Project 538:
RCP:
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DanTex
(20,709 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....and it wasn't even a "comment", it was a "BOOOO" and reference "haters"!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Otherwise, you'd have to confront the reality of what happened, and we all know that will most certainly not validate your narrative or your biases.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
I was really taken aback by Tlaibs behavior. Junior high at best.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lunasun
(21,646 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(48,976 posts)harder for people who voted for her in 2016 to ever vote for him, IF he doesn't make a statement telling his supporters to stop being so nasty and juvenile.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JudyM
(29,241 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DanTex
(20,709 posts)You're right. When his surrogates do things like that, then it will make it harder for some Dems to vote for Bernie if he wins the nom.
And when Hillary does things like that, it will make it harder for some Bernie supporters to vote D if Bernie doesn't win the nom.
All of this stuff is bad.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
squirecam
(2,706 posts)And it needs to stop.
Im tired of seeing Dems destroy each other every 4 years.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,211 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
yaesu
(8,020 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JudyM
(29,241 posts)Theres enough garbage being thrown around here already.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pansypoo53219
(20,976 posts)we HAVE TO DEPOSE THE DAUGHTER FUCKER.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,211 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
EveHammond13
(2,855 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DanTex
(20,709 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(32,767 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Don1
(1,652 posts)Details don't matter.
Deescalation does matter.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)there is probably 1/3 of democratic voters who genuinely like Bernie. Unlike Bernie, Hillary is a uniter so I dont understand her remarks, she should 100% commit to supporting the eventual nominee, period. It is one thing about Gabbard which was very important to do as she may have prevented russian intelligence service plans for tulsi. Look at whats happening with polls in California where Bernies popularity is rising. I am very disappointed that Bidens campaign doesnt have 1/10th of energy that Bernie and his supporters are putting in. In a race like this, it is not unreasonable to assume that BS may win Iowa, NH, NV, CA, MI, WI, PA, MN, etc. Even if Biden may eventually win the nomination, the primary will drag on all the way to the convention leaving us even more divided than in 2016. With trump getting quickly aquitted in the senate, we are looking at uphill battle. There will be no limit to trumps violations, no crime is too big.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)This will cost sanders votes in the real world
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)It struck me as being self-serving, insincere and passive-aggressive. I'm reminded of the "I'm sorry you were offended" political non-apologies that we hear so often. Obviously, those weren't the words used, but I feel like it came from the same place of pride rather than being contrite or feelings of heartfelt regret or remorse. Sigh.
All I'm saying is that it was a disappointment both times. The follow-up didn't really help. I just think we should demand more from our elected leaders.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)I guess I just have higher standards. I'm not inclined to give trophies and hand out high praise for minimal effort and obvious self-serving insincerity.
I blame Youth Soccer for this culture of permissiveness and "everyone's a winner just for showing up".
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)Normally going to a national convention is a once in a life time experience. I have worked really hard inside the party on campaigns and voter protection issues for a very long time to earn this trip. Too bad that sanders and his vetted delegates ruined that experience and did their best to help trump. A candidate has absolute approval rights over their pledged delegates because these delegates can change their votes and these delegates represent the candidate and campaign. I helped vet Clinton delegates and I know that I was vetted. The Clinton campaign told us that we represent her and that our actions would reflect on her and her campaign.
In contrast, sanders sent one very weak text the Sunday night before the convention and then did little or nothing to control his delegates. It was nasty I was there when the sanders delegates booed Congressman John Lewis. I was warned about this stunt 30 minutes before it happened by the Clinton campaign whip. According to my whip, sanders was asked to stop this event and declined. That incident will be used against sanders if he runs in 2020.
I was at the Texas delegation breakfast when a group of sanders delegates marched in and demanded that we condemn Clinton and change our votes to sanders.
sanders spoke to the Texas delegation the next morning and his speech was again solely about himself. There was a mini-riot due to his delegates the prior morning and the only thing that sanders talked about was himself. sanders did nothing to deal with the fact that his delegates were out of control and did nothing to try to help Hillary Clinton win the general election.
Finally a group of sanders delegates yelled at my daughter and called her the c-Word because she would not try to get me to change my vote. Again sanders was asked to tell his delegates to behave during the convention and sanders refused
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)The booing and shouting at Democrats on stage was awful. Let's not have that happen again. Instead of ramping up tensions, people should ramp them down, like Tlaib did with her apology. It was a classy move.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)Talib needs to issue a real and not fake apology. sanders will not get any significant African American support if he is somehow the nominee. Russia will use the booing of John Lewis, Elijah Cummings, Stacy Abrams and Michele Obama to suppress African American vote and no Democrat can win without that vote
Link to tweet
sanders needs to make a real apology to Clinton, John Lewis, the widow of Elijah Cummings and others if he wants to get support
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Then both sides will have stepped back from the ledge, and we can put this dispute behind us.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)Clinton was correct in her comments about sanders
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Clinton was obviously wrong that "nobody likes Bernie". But even if she thinks she's right about it, she should still apologize, because it's an inappropriate attack on a Democratic presidential candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)That was NOT an apology
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)Link to tweet
?s=20
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)But instead of looking for grievances to be mad about, we should unite.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)There was less cross-over voting from Bernie supporters in 2016 than from Hillary voters in 2008. Thanks in large part's to Bernie's efforts.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Immediately after the convention, BS had a golden opportunity to show true leadership and help to bring people together during those critical weeks. Instead, he was completely silent... for WEEKS!!
Instead of helping to soothe hurt feelings, in those important moments immediately following the convention. Instead of setting a good example and leading the way... he allowed people to wallow in their own anger and remorse. Those feelings became toxic and resentful to the point of acting-out or feeling the need for "revenge".
Why would he allow that to happen? Was he completely oblivious? Did he simply not care?
Hillary is absolutely correct in her observations. These things that happened after the convention are historical fact. Bernie was absent and silent. We don't know what his motivations were for being absent, or why he believed that writing a book was more important than accepting what should have been his role in creating unity.
That's not what real and skilled leaders do. It's really a shame.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Seems like real and skilled leadership to me. At least compared to 2008, it sure was.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)He had a golden opportunity, and he blew it. Pity.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)(sic of one, half a dozen of the other.. and each as with merit as the other)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)I heard sanders speak twice at the national convention. These speeches were 90+ about him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)I've received non-apologies like that in the past (long long ago past) from my abusive ex. He'd apologize because I made him mad enough to hit me. If only I had kept my mouth shut (or not looked at him the wrong way) he wouldn't have had to hit me, and so he's sorry about that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
polichick
(37,152 posts)others will respond in reference to that primary too.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,082 posts)Other than the fact that Bernie is gaining traction, I don't get why she felt the need to go there at this time. We must all unify to beat Trump. Especially now.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,082 posts)push back. I question why people want to turn off young people who are now paying attention.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)All I'm saying is, that Hillary has the right (and is right) in bringing this up now, because it's a "forgotten" and little discussed aspect about what happened after the convention... and every indicator suggests that we're in for a repeat. Forewarned is forearmed.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,082 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Oh well... see ya!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....were turned off by this?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LonePirate
(13,420 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Not you personally, the Democratic Party. I've had it up to my eyeballs with the Clintons, Other prominent Democrats have faded into the background, why is that so hard for Hillary? Or at least stop saying stupid shit that gets people riled up! Do people not understand how high the stakes are for November 2020?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)*****************************************************************************************
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Earlier last month when she was appointed chancellor of Queens University, Belfast, she showed up to accept the honor, much to the chagrin of those who have deemed it more appropriate for her to simply fade away.
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By the way, at the time of the filming of the documentary, HRC was asked for her honest perspective on and appraisal of many different events and people, BS among them.
Expressing a candid and informed opinion when asked a direct question during an interview that will be of interest to future historians isn't "saying stupid shit". It's speaking for the record and putting potentially toxic factions on notice.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Why is it so difficult for Hillary? DU seems to reject how polarizing she is to many voters. PA, MI and WI are MUST WINS in November -- we don't need the ghost of Hillary Clinton looming over the election.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)speaking truth, NOT attacking.
There IS a difference.
Tlaib was LEADING the booing. And her "apology" is pretty half-a**ed, IMO.
Plus, BS's surrogates continue to act against MY candidate.
Bernie is dead to me in the primaries.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)And she answered it. Her answer I am in 100 percent agreement with. The attempt by the OP at whataboutism aside.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)"whataboutism" by some here. What a shame!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ahoysrcsm
(787 posts)If only the "vocal minority" could sway more support...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,147 posts)telling the truth. And it's about time someone told the truth about Sanders.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
aka-chmeee
(1,132 posts)decades and has thus earned her opinion), there are a dozen comments from that same Bernie Sanders attacking and belittling the Democratic party. I'm with her.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Calling it an attack is divisive.
But I get it... indicting others for our own failures is becoming a standard. That doesn't "help anyone but Trump."
As for some more word salad... "people attacking people for attacking people shouldn't be attacked by people... that's an attack. And it's divisive!!!!"
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden