Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBiden Hopes for Strong Finish But Warns of Long Primary Fight
Joe Bidens campaign suggested Friday it expects a protracted fight for the Democratic nomination as the race for the states first-in-the-nation caucuses entered its final weekend.
Muddied or close results in the first few contests paired with multiple candidates who have signaled plans to stay in the race indefinitely drag the nominating contest deep into the year, and Bidens camp argued Friday that its ready for the fight.
The VP remains in a strong position to perform well in the first four states and on Super Tuesday, but were also planning for an extended process into the summer, campaign manager Greg Schultz said in a memo to Biden supporters, hinting that the campaign expects Bernie Sanders will stay in the race at least until the end of the primary calendar, even if he doesnt have a delegate advantage.
Mondays contest begins the process, it doesnt end it, Schultz said. And, its a process we are fully prepared and well-positioned to win. After falling behind top opponents in raising money, January has been Bidens strongest month of fund raising since launch, he said, with much of the growth coming online.
While Schultzs memo could be interpreted as an effort to lower expectations ahead of an uncertain showing on Monday, so he could tout the results if Biden does reasonably well, it could also be seen as an effort to head off panic among Bidens supporters should he perform poorly.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-01/biden-hopes-for-strong-finish-but-warns-of-long-primary-fight?srnd=politics-vp
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,121 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(32,701 posts)Hes gonna do just fine!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
empedocles
(15,751 posts)jaws of victory' - quote attributed to A. Lincoln
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)[link:https://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/01/magazine/cliches-for-06.html|]
But hold on -- here comes Fred Shapiro, editor of the forthcoming Yale Dictionary of Quotations, with an even earlier citation. A newspaper titled The National Era quoted a speech made on Feb. 21, 1850, by Representative William Bissell of Illinois, who chided another congressman, James Seddon of Virginia, for saying that a Mississippi regiment at the 1847 battle of Buena Vista in the Mexican-American war had "snatched victory from the jaws of defeat." Bissell disputed this claim, attributing the snatching (not plucking) of victory (not defeat) to Northern regiments.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
empedocles
(15,751 posts)been around. 'Cut one's nose off to spite the face' has been attributed to the 13th Century. So many quotes go back to Roman times.
You probably know, though other readers here may not know, that Lincoln did make that quote in reference to General Burnside.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bluewater
(5,376 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,254 posts)You have to watch out for the underdog bias thing.
It's not good to act like you think you have everything sewn up.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)Biden is in danger of finishing 5th in Iowa as Klobuchar is closing strong. That would be disastrous for his campaign.
In any case, we will find out soon enough. lol
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,254 posts)Iowa's delegates will be divided up, losing all impact on the Convention. It doesn't matter. It never did.
Biden isn't talking about Iowa. He's looking ahead.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)A poor showing in Iowa would damage Biden going forward.
Perception is reality. If the electability bubble bursts, the Biden Campaign falters.
People keep down playing expectations for Joe in Iowa, trying to cushion the impact of a poor showing there.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,254 posts)Perception is not reality. Reality is reality.
Slogans aren't accurate predictors.
Iowa is a toss-up. Nobody really knows how the caucuses will turn out. Anyone who pretends to is just guessing like everyone else.
The cool thing is that we'll know on Tuesday. Some people will be surprised, but I don't know which people.
In any case, no candidate will actually "win" Iowa. Everyone who matters will get some delegates, and then we move on to the next thing.
Could Joe Biden come in in first place? Absolutely. Any of the leading candidates might. There's no way to predict. We'll see.
Does Iowa matter? No, not really, unless you're one of the non-viable candidates. Then it matters. You're finished if that is the case.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)"Does Iowa matter? No, not really"
Again, this just comes across as trying to cushion a poor showing for Joe Biden in Iowa.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)I have no idea where you are getting "finishing 5th" from.
In addition, even if Biden did finish 5th, it would mean little. Biden is super strong in the South, and odds are Bernie will not win any of the 11 states with closed Primaries. He lost all of them to Hillary in 2016 because an important part of Sanders' voting block comes from non Democrats. Bernie has a real uphill battle this year.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)It's a caucus not a primary.
Biden has the weakest ground game of the top 5 candidates in Iowa.
And, if Biden does finish 5th in Iowa it will definitely matter, it's just wishful thinking on the part of his supporters to think otherwise.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden