I don't see Biden as being a very strong candidate against Trump.

[redgreenandblue]

There are several reasons for that, but the biggest one is that way he handles being approached by people. There are just so many instances now of him responding in a grouchy way to fairly standard questions and basically telling potential voters to "go vote for someone else". It is pretty apparent that his persuasion game is way off. He seems to be genuinely annoyed that people would challenge him on stuff and to take way too many things for granted. That isn't a good sign for the general election at all.

That, and there is just so much material to use against him. I can already see the ads which show the "I was ready to prostitute myself to the big donors" clip.

Neither align with me politically, but if I had to choose, based on "electability" alone, I'd feel much more confident with someone like Pete Buttigieg.

[Ohiogal]

1. Well

The guy who is in the WH right now is half ways illiterate, has a past that’s chock full of criminality and immorality, and has the personality of a pile of dung, and somehow he got elected. There was endless material to use against him during the election, as well, and none of it mattered one iota to his cultists.

I’m not saying you aren’t right, but I always think of this when people talk about electability.

[JudyM]

16. Trump is, much to our detriment, a charismatic leader.

[MFM008]

35. maggot is not a leader

of anything except brain dead sycophants.

[JudyM]

40. Right, zombie leader!

Charismatic leader is an anthropological term that describes someone with his personality and power over peoples minds, often with detrimental effects.

[quakerboy]

32. I'd really like to think

we all believe the democratic electorate is of a slightly more discerning caliber than the republican electorate that picked Trump

[Skya Rhen]

2. I agree with him - voters are free to go and vote for someone else. Waste of time to

trying to persuade the unpersuadable.

[quakerboy]

34. Thats how we won the presidency in

2016.

[wyldwolf]

3. Why are you 'undecided?' nt.

[rzemanfl]

5. Yep, deja vu all over again....

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287462105

[still_one]

4. I think Biden is quite strong. I also think Mayor Pete, and Elizabeth Warren are also in that

category and can think on their feet, which is extremely important

I personally think our weakest candidate is Bernie Sanders, and believe he has pretty much has gotten a free pass

His NY Daily News interview in 2016 was dismal at best, and for someone who has been in Congress as long as he has, said to me that the same old stump speech is not enough to win a GE


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nydailynews.com/opinion/transcript-bernie-sanders-meets-news-editorial-board-article-1.2588306%3foutputType=amp

[Strelnikov_]

6. I agree

The way he has responded in these instances gives me pause.

Here in Iowa I have seen all the majors a couple of times. He has the lowest emotional intelligence of them all by far. And I don't think he was always this way . . . which makes me wonder if he does not have something going on geriatric health wise.

Real contrast to how I observed Pete and Cory and Bernie deal with hecklers. Cory did a hell of a job with a Grade A Maga asshole at the State Fair.

[JudyM]

18. Must be so interesting to be in Iowa.

The rest of us are watching and waiting...

[LakeArenal]

7. Biden is the strongest most qualified candidate both nationally or globally.

You call it “material”. I call it experience.

That is YOUR ad already posted here using the term prostitute. Don’t be pawning it off on Repukes. YOU are saying it under a cloak of “they” will do it.

Some dumb quiz says I align with Pete. But he was very little electability despite how much I like him.

I align with Pete. We win with Biden.

[UniteFightBack]

11. Oh who cares about all that...I vote with my heart and who I like...yipppeeeee

[emmaverybo]

19. Me too and my heart is with Biden.

[OneMoreCupOfCoffee]

26. Head and heart are both with Joe Biden.

I have zero internal conflict in this election.

[emmaverybo]

29. Same here. Like the way you put it.

[MineralMan]

8. Grouchy? Really?

[NurseJackie]

12. I know, right?

I'm just thankful that he doesn't wag his finger in people's faces. And, he looks good in a nice-fitting suit because he has good posture. He's someone that I'd be PROUD to see standing along side other world leaders on the world stage (figuratively and literally) and representing our nation.

He's one of my top two choices.

[greymattermom]

9. Trump can't resist attacking Biden

for mourning his son. That won't sit well with voters, especially women.

[UniteFightBack]

10. LOL Dump just got impeached over Biden so dump doesn't share your 'views'. If you think Joe is

grouchy you best stay away from Mr. Sanders.

[book_worm]

13. I think he would be strong

Pete would have a problem getting minority voters excited about voting in the substantial numbers needed.

[Gothmog]

14. I strongly disagree

trump is afraid of Joe for good reason

Link to tweet

[MBS]

15. As is presumably obvious from my candidate tag,

my sense is the same.
And I'd add that Pete has been running a very smart campaign, with what seems to be an awesome ground game, and, having watched all 5 (!) of his talk show appearances today, as well as the remarkable way he's handled the media and public questions, as well as unexpected protestors at his various town halls, fundraisers, and TV interviews, he has shown the ability to handle any question and any questioner that comes his way and to project a consistently sharp and forward-looking but inclusive and, in occasional moments, even wise, message. I've never seen anyone so adept at thinking on his feet the way he does. In my opinion, that skill and fresh energy will be essential not only in the GE, but also to handle the expected avalanche of crises that will face the next president and generally to govern what's left of this battered nation.

[highplainsdem]

17. The GE polls show him doing better against Trump than any of our other candidates, and it's been

that way for a year now.

[emmaverybo]

20. So the problem is that he won't be cordial, gracious, and even tempered enough when he

takes on Trump?

Fighting Joe, humorous Joe, gentleman Joe, suffer no fools Joe, and the Joe his stellar endorsers
almost universally hail as a healer, a uniter, empathetic, and ready on day one—I will take the many wonderful sides I have seen Joe display as he interacts powerfully and authentically with audiences whom he often reaches at a profound level of the heart.

[Gothmog]

21. trump wants to run against a weak socialist candidate like sanders

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Link to tweet

[OneMoreCupOfCoffee]

22. I've seen few political leader in my lifetime who connect with people the way Joe Biden does.

It is perhaps his greatest gift as a politican, in my estimation.

And knowing when to blow off trolls speaks to his good judgement about people.

Joe Biden is a winner!

[Gothmog]

24. I have met Joe twice in person

He is amazing

[OneMoreCupOfCoffee]

25. I've never had the pleasure.

Yet, I can imagine the experience. I see how he connects with people. It is a gift.

[emmaverybo]

30. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

[Gothmog]

23. Socialism polls poorly

Link to tweet

?s=20

[pnwmom]

27. Who do you think is better? Sanders isn't exactly warm and friendly. n/t

[Gothmog]

28. Biden has proven that he can take what trump is dishing out

Joe is by far the party’s strongest candidate

Link to tweet

[herding cats]

31. I find this interesting.

Pete Buttigieg's someone I've respected for longer than most here knew he existed. You can do the searches, I've been talking about him at DU since before Trump was elected. In a perfect world he'd be a "dream" candidate of mine right now. Initially I loved how intellectual he is and his policy stances are strong.

He's not at this time because I only care about winning and he's not the man for that job. First of all, I learned since my first interest in him, he can't bring home our African American voters. We lose without them. That's fully on him. I can assure you he was only brought to my eyes because he had aspirations for the presidency. Yet, he's made foolish mistakes which are documented since 2002 and hasn't made them any better over the years in that department, I'm sorry to say. It's been an achilles heel of his primary campaign. It's a deal ended for me.

Also, wether you realize it or not, Biden is currently considered the most liked and personable candidate in our field. Granted, that's subject to change, but it's what it is at this moment, and I'm living in the moment as to my support. All I care about is getting an actually electable candidate nominated. But, you do you.

I still like Buttigieg, I just don't see him as out best pick this cycle. My second is currently Warren, then Klobuchar and then him. But, that's just my rankings. Which are always subject to change.

[treestar]

38. I agree. Mayor Pete got himself known nationally

with this campaign.

But he does not have experience Biden has to fix the foreign policy that the Dotard has wrecked.

[Quixote1818]

33. He has looked extremely week in the debates too.

Enough to get me concerned how he would do against Trump. He seems shaky and not nearly as sharp as he used to be.

[treestar]

39. You've got to be kidding

No one we have running would not mop the floor with the Orange Moron.

[pattyloutwo]

36. I agree

I’m surprised people think he’s so strong, especially based on his responses, ability to talk about an issue in the debates. I think many are basing their opinion on a younger Biden, not seeing how his age has changed him.

[treestar]

37. LOL the Dotard is any better?

Nobody even tries to approach him. He's always angry.

The ads you mention would only work for the primaries. How can Dotard talk about big donors? Any Republican?

The people Biden said should vote for another already are and were not persuadable and were not interacting with him for that reason. They were not genuinely challenging Biden on any issue.

[LanternWaste]

41. It does not follow.

Your anecdotal evidence does not support your premise.