Democratic Primaries
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Feb 2, 2020
Something big is happening across the country. Were going to finish the political revolution we started.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)I was expecting to see Michael Bloomberg.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)Instead Bernie enjoys 20% of Democratic support..if that since I think a lot of his followers are not true Dem's.
So there's that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lambchopp59
(2,809 posts)I'm sick of this Overton window slid so far right that there are tons of Dems bashing each other. Look at this thread. You're doing it right now.
So if you're going to sling that mud, I'm asking you to define "true Dems" for me here.
Because there is something very stinky in this, that smells of RW-esque greed lite.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)because of him. And if he loses they will lose interest. NOT ALL OF THEM. Did I say all ?
And please don't come at me with insults. What you call mud I call truth.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lambchopp59
(2,809 posts)Otherwise it's easily taken as not centrist enough. I've seen that very point blasted all over further "left" candidate supporters here, as I'm certain you've seen as well.
I get that "we got ours, get your own" attitude thrown at me ad nauseum from my lifelong democrat older boomer family too who easily afforded prestigious university degrees for what city college cost in my day after RayGun. Housing cost them less than 100 dollars a month for a house throughout their time, quadrupled by mine for a studio.
That being said, you just solidified the point I've made and been blown off about:
That our need this cycle to siphon off some of the former Trump voters may be paramount to winning this election.
Apologies if I came off insulting. My brothers pull the ignore and insult button when I tell them the above mentioned truth. I'm bashed regularly here for having "too liberal for this forum" views. Think that's not frustrating? It gets worse.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NJCher
(35,623 posts)that Bernie would have been a tougher opponent than Hillary. However, one can't take anything he says seriously since he's such a liar.
However, even a stopped watch is right twice a day.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)It is a minority, pretending to be the majority in the Democratic Party.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)The people do indeed want a revolution!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)You see what you want to see but I see REALITY.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dualboy24
(41 posts)Right now Sanders odds have been trending upwards and quite fast, both at the early states, and national, he has the highest odds on Iowa, and overall betting odds from 538 have him in the lead.
The real question is going to be how fast the field narrows and how it narrows.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Huge no to an attempted LW socialist "revolution," i.e., splinter faction drawing off 10% of the vote, that the hugely more powerful RW factions are encouraging, need even, and have already factored into their plans as a means to gain power.
More people need to realize fast that it not only can happen here but is happening.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OneMoreCupOfCoffee
(314 posts)Resist!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
greatauntoftriplets
(175,729 posts)His worst nightmare is not being the center of everything and receiving all the adulation he thinks he deserves.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,945 posts)In addition to the well written 101 page memorandum with oppo on sanders with a 1000 pages of backup from the Clinton campaign trump has his own oppo file on sanders that would destroy such a weak and divisive candidate like sanders. Trump had a two foot thick book of oppo research on Sanders http://www.newsweek.com/myths-cost-democrats-presidential-election-521044
So what would have happened when Sanders hit a real opponent, someone who did not care about alienating the young college voters in his base? I have seen the opposition book assembled by Republicans for Sanders, and it was brutal. The Republicans would have torn him apart. And while Sanders supporters might delude themselves into believing that they could have defended him against all of this, there is a name for politicians who play defense all the time: losers....
The Republicans had at least four other damning Sanders videos (I dont know what they showed), and the opposition research folder was almost 2-feet thick. (The section calling him a communist with connections to Castro alone would have cost him Florida.) In other words, the belief that Sanders would have walked into the White House based on polls taken before anyone really attacked him is a delusion built on a scaffolding of political ignorance.
sanders was such a weak primary candidate that the Clinton campaign did not use its oppo but trump would have fun destroying such a weak candidate like sanders
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,945 posts)Link to tweet
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,921 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,300 posts)Thanks for the thread Donkees.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(144,945 posts)Link to tweet
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,945 posts)Link to tweet
I feel relatively confident that socialism, or anything close to it, has no chance of beating Trump in 2020, Vela told Yahoo Finance. If Bernie Sanders is his opponent, [Donald Trump] will use the word socialism. And polling shows very clearly that centrist, moderate Democrat doesnt like the word socialism. And in particular, Latino voters in Florida, for example, they see the world socialism, they run the other direction. Because many of them, either their families or they, themselves, have come from countries where they were victimized by socialism.
Sanders and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) have both proposed forms of Medicare for all as their solutions to the current health care system in the U.S. And according to a poll from the Kaiser Family Foundation, more Democrats support building upon the Affordable Care Act (ACA) which is basically Bidens plan rather than replacing it with a type of Medicare for all.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,945 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden