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NEW Iowa @Civiqs/@DataProgress Poll: Sanders 28%, Warren 21%, Buttigieg 15% (Original Post) Donkees Feb 2020 OP
I get email poll questions from Civiqs every week. RandySF Feb 2020 #1
Why don't Biden voters ever admit to bad news? Polybius Feb 2020 #9
I'll admit to bad news when I see a poll I respect RandySF Feb 2020 #14
I guess the only poll that matters in Iowa is tomorrow's Polybius Feb 2020 #21
Changes from their previous poll: HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #2
Warren looks like she may make a run at second Bumperstickers Feb 2020 #3
Tomorrow, the caucuses will collect actual information from MineralMan Feb 2020 #4
Responses to this poll were collected online. RandySF Feb 2020 #5
Civic is not rated on538, but data for progress is b/c Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #6
One poll analyzed. RandySF Feb 2020 #12
? Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #13
Sounds just like the Morning Consult Poll's methodology bluewater Feb 2020 #7
Well, that will oversample younger voters. Zolorp Feb 2020 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Polybius Feb 2020 #8
Ho hum. Online poll. apcalc Feb 2020 #10
Most polls are online these days. bluewater Feb 2020 #15
I wish more people understood that. All that matters is the sample Recursion Feb 2020 #16
So far as I am concerned they are all skewed then. apcalc Feb 2020 #18
Honest question... HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #23
Yes, that is part of my mathematical learning and degree. apcalc Feb 2020 #24
A lot of posters here confuse these types of online polls with public ones. Ace Rothstein Feb 2020 #22
Land line polls are so outdated less then 43% of households had them in 2017 Bumperstickers Feb 2020 #17
This Markos's outfit judeling Feb 2020 #19
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2020 #20
 

RandySF

(58,763 posts)
1. I get email poll questions from Civiqs every week.
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 03:00 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Polybius

(15,381 posts)
9. Why don't Biden voters ever admit to bad news?
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 03:49 PM
Feb 2020

It's ok to say "Sanders is doing better than I hoped" or "Biden isn't doing as well nationally as he was in December" or "We likely won't win Iowa."

I'm a Warren voter and I admit bad things. She's not in first place nationally and I thought she would be. Hope that changes by the NY primary but it doesn't look to be the case.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

RandySF

(58,763 posts)
14. I'll admit to bad news when I see a poll I respect
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 03:58 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Polybius

(15,381 posts)
21. I guess the only poll that matters in Iowa is tomorrow's
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:36 AM
Feb 2020

Good luck.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
2. Changes from their previous poll:
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 03:01 PM
Feb 2020

Sanders: +4
Warren: +2
Buttigieg: -2
Biden: =
Klobuchar: -3

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Bumperstickers

(199 posts)
3. Warren looks like she may make a run at second
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 03:04 PM
Feb 2020

The battle for second place is fascinating.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
4. Tomorrow, the caucuses will collect actual information from
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 03:13 PM
Feb 2020

actual caucus-goers. We'll know how that all turned out on Tuesday. That's the only poll that will have the accurate numbers.

Wait for it!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

RandySF

(58,763 posts)
5. Responses to this poll were collected online.
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 03:18 PM
Feb 2020

This report contains the results of a Civiqs survey of 655 likely Democratic Caucus attendees in Iowa from January 23-27, 2020. The survey was conducted online, among selected members of the Civiqs research panel. Sampled individuals were emailed by Civiqs and responded using a personalized link to the survey at civiqs.com.






https://civiqs.com/documents/Civiqs_ISU_banner_book_2020_01_cg3q62ypb43uz6bb.pdf

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
6. Civic is not rated on538, but data for progress is b/c
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 03:42 PM
Feb 2020

So the poll might be worth something. If this is remotely accurate, we could be seeing some surprises!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

RandySF

(58,763 posts)
12. One poll analyzed.
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 03:55 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
7. Sounds just like the Morning Consult Poll's methodology
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 03:44 PM
Feb 2020

And that poll is always favorable for Joe Biden.



The polls are what the polls are.

Fortunately, actual voting starts TOMORROW in Iowa!

It will be interesting to see which polls have been the most accurate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Zolorp

(1,115 posts)
11. Well, that will oversample younger voters.
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 03:52 PM
Feb 2020

Older people are too terrified of clicking links to things like polls.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Donkees (Original post)

 

apcalc

(4,463 posts)
10. Ho hum. Online poll.
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 03:51 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
15. Most polls are online these days.
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 03:59 PM
Feb 2020

Pollsters are searching for ways to adjust to the new world where people just don't answer their phones anymore for unsolicited calls.

Online "panel" polls is a remedy many pollsters are currently using.

What our transition to online polling means for decades of phone survey trends
By Courtney Kennedy and Claudia Deane

From the 1980s until relatively recently, most national polling organizations conducted surveys by telephone, relying on live interviewers to call randomly selected Americans across the country. Then came the internet.
It has taken survey researchers some time to adapt to the idea of online surveys, but a quick look at the public polls on an issue like presidential approval reveals a landscape now dominated by online polls rather than phone polls. Pew Research Center itself now conducts the majority of its U.S. polling online, primarily through its American Trends Panel.
The fact that many public opinion surveys today are conducted online is no secret to avid poll watchers. What is not well known, however, is what this migration to online polling means for the country’s trove of data documenting American public opinion over the past four decades, on issues ranging from abortion and immigration to race relations and military interventions. Specifically, can pollsters just add new online results to a long chain of phone survey results, or is this an apples-to-oranges situation that requires us to essentially throw out the historical data and start anew?

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/02/27/what-our-transition-to-online-polling-means-for-decades-of-phone-survey-trends/



These legitimate attempts at online polling are a far cry from the clickity-click internet polls that allowed responders to repeatedly vote in a given survey.

It's worthwhile to realize the difference.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
16. I wish more people understood that. All that matters is the sample
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 04:33 PM
Feb 2020

There's nothing magically bad about the Internet or magically good about phone calls. A poll with a legitimate probability sample will be effective whether via a phone or a web browser.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

apcalc

(4,463 posts)
18. So far as I am concerned they are all skewed then.
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 07:13 PM
Feb 2020

I maintain a true representative sample cannot be obtained online only.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
23. Honest question...
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:49 AM
Feb 2020

Do you have a background in statistics or statistical modeling?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

apcalc

(4,463 posts)
24. Yes, that is part of my mathematical learning and degree.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 10:26 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Ace Rothstein

(3,160 posts)
22. A lot of posters here confuse these types of online polls with public ones.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:46 AM
Feb 2020

You can't just keep voting in this type of online poll.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Bumperstickers

(199 posts)
17. Land line polls are so outdated less then 43% of households had them in 2017
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 04:59 PM
Feb 2020

I think your gonna see the internet polling firms rule the day this election and the others will have to adjust in the future or go the way the dinosaurs.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

judeling

(1,086 posts)
19. This Markos's outfit
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 07:22 PM
Feb 2020

It is worth looking at for trends poll to poll.
We are about to see over the next weeks what the turnout models for all the polling out mean.

But there is definitely a house effect that needs to be taken into account.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Uncle Joe

(58,349 posts)
20. Kicked and recommended.
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 07:23 PM
Feb 2020

Thanks for the thread Donkees.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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