Psychology today: Some Media Outlets Are Gaslighting Us About Joe Rogan

[Quixote1818]

I hope folks will read this with an open mind and not just have knee jerk reactions to the title. I have watched Rogan from time to time and knew him to be nothing but pro-gay: (See video below) and not the least bit racist: (See video below) so all this backlash surprised me. I don't remember anything any more edgy than perhaps statements by someone like Bill Maher. Regardless of if you like Sanders or not we should not allow the media to ruin someone by cherry picking a couple of unfortunate statements when they CLEARLY are very vocal about gay rights and civil rights on their show regularly.

Gaslighting is being used to manipulate public opinion and it should concern us.
Posted Jan 25, 2020

Snip: Before we get into that, it is important to note that these media outlets didn’t just start attempting to gaslight the public out of nowhere. To me, the sudden spree of gaslighting attempts seems like they were taking a page out of President Donald Trump’s playbook. That gaslighting is a favorite technique of his is an empirical fact, not an opinion. I cite specific examples in my article for Psychology Today, “Trump is Gaslighting America Again—Here’s How to Fight It,” but most of us need not refer to it for examples to come to mind. It is hard to keep count of how many times the president has claimed “fake news” when there was direct video or transcripts to substantiate the reported claims. And a lot of us can remember the time he told an audience of supporters, “Just remember—what you are seeing and what you are reading is not what’s happening.” Had he been referring to something specific then maybe there could be some validity to the claim, but it was a general statement meant to be applied to all criticisms of him, past, present, or future. While the president may have been the first to gaslight people in such a transparent and flagrant way, it wasn’t long until others caught on.

Snip: Has Rogan, a comedian known for being edgy and usually high, said a few unwise and insensitive things on the air? Absolutely. But so has Bill Maher. And Hillary Clinton. And Joe Biden. And...the list could go on forever, but you get the point. Those people aren't considered to be racists or transphobes or terrible people because society has been smart enough to consider the totality of a person's statements and actions, instead of solely basing their opinions on sound bytes taken out of context. Additionally, Rogan has had a couple of downright despicable people on his show—like Gavin McInnes, founder of Vice magazine and the "Proud Boys"—and some entertaining-but-arguably-dangerous nut-jobs like Alex Jones, but we must remember it is after all a podcast. How many times did Jon Stewart have Bill O’Reilly as a guest on The Daily Show? What about letting Donald Rumsfeld come on to promote his book? Did that mean he was politically supporting those two? Of course not. And how many times has CNN had Steve Bannon on in the last few years? Is anyone that Rogan has had on really worse than that guy?

More:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mind-in-the-machine/202001/some-media-outlets-are-gaslighting-us-about-joe-rogan

[DanTex]

1. Thanks. Everyone would understand this if he hadn't endorsed Bernie.

Whenever anyone endorses Bernie, or even says hi to Bernie, the anti-Bernie people go try to dig up whatever they can to try to smear Bernie by association.

[iwannaknow]

2. So true!

[sheshe2]

5. Welp.

DanTex (18,722 posts)
1. Thanks. Everyone would understand this if he hadn't endorsed Bernie.

Whenever anyone endorses Bernie, or even says hi to Bernie, the anti-Bernie people go try to dig up whatever they can to try to smear Bernie by association.

Whenever anyone endorses Biden, or even says hi to Biden, the anti-Biden people go try to dig up whatever they can to try to smear Biden by association.

[ehrnst]

15. Yes, I believe that that it's called Projection by psychologists.

[ehrnst]

14. Well, Senate colleagues aren't rushing to endorse him, so there's that.

Not hearing them contradicting what Hillary said, either.

Thoughts?

[lapfog_1]

3. I don't believe I have ever heard Joe Biden

tell a joke about Hillary giving every male in the audience a blow job and talk about how much that would "cost".

Joe Rogan has.

I am so f'ing done with him... whoever ACCEPTS his endorsement is anathema to me... and should be to any person in the nation.

[highplainsdem]

4. Nor would you ever hear Biden "joke" about a black neighborhood being like "Planet of the Apes" -

as Rogan has.

[Demsrule86]

9. or it will be one of the reasons he loses the primary...he never had AA voters much and now...

never will.

[Demsrule86]

7. No I heard him on the show and I posted the clip...downloaded it too in case like others it

disappears....where he says Gay people are created by sexual molestation and then he says they are likely to become predators themselves...no!!! as if my Gay daughter doesn't have put up with enough shit since Trump's elections...fuck Rogan...how many proud boy recruits do you suppose are a result of them being on the show...How about Alex Jones...no Rogan is a POS and no one should listen to the shit he spews...women hater too.

[showblue22]

8. This article is gas lighting

Who jokes about a woman giving a room full of men a blow job?

[Demsrule86]

13. Rogan goes out of his way to degrade accomplished women...I sense a deep anger from Rogan.

[ehrnst]

16. People who have deep problematic issues with women. And Rogan definitely has them.

[W_HAMILTON]

10. Gaslighting us by using his own fucking words?

Give me a break.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

11. Can I just say: I don't know who Joe Rogan is, and I don't care (nt)

[dsc]

12. Please link to a time that Biden or Clinton

said the n word or the f word about gays. I'll wait, it will be a long time.

[David__77]

17. The word "gaslighting" is used a lot these days.

It seems to be used in reference to anything to do with a contrary viewpoint.