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Donkees

(31,294 posts)
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 03:31 PM Feb 2020

Ottumwa satellite precinct, is the first Iowa precinct to caucus today. Starting at Noon




Chris Laursen, president of UAW Local 74, is here as an observer. He’s a Bernie supporter and said the campaign has been canvassing outside JBS Pork, the major employer in town, at shift change from midnight to 2 a.m.

Precinct chairman Frank Flanders is getting this caucus started. He’s reading a statement from Iowa Democratic Party Chairman Troy Price. And county party chair Zach Simonson tells attendees they are the “first of the first” to cast their preferences in the 2020 election.

Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders both have precinct captains here, and it doesn’t appear that caucusgoers plan to support anyone other than those two candidates at the moment.

14 of 15 caucusgoers are standing with Bernie Sanders on the first alignment. One is standing with Elizabeth Warren.

Warren is not viable here, and her one supporter said she does not wish to realign with Sanders.

Because this is a satellite caucus, the precinct won’t award delegates until later tonight when they know how many people participated. So stay tuned for final delegate #s later.
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Ottumwa satellite precinct, is the first Iowa precinct to caucus today. Starting at Noon (Original Post) Donkees Feb 2020 OP
(Warren's) one supporter said she does not wish to realign with Sanders. denem Feb 2020 #1
I spoke to a Warren supporter booley Feb 2020 #3
''she would not realign, meaning that her vote effectively won't count toward anything'' Donkees Feb 2020 #15
Says something, doesn't it? denem Feb 2020 #16
It is sad. If it was a regular vote, mail in, it would still count. krissey Feb 2020 #18
Anecdotal. Sanders leads as second choice among Warren supporters thesquanderer Feb 2020 #17
ahhh, Ottumwa, Iowa--home of Radar O'Reily (M*A*S*H) hlthe2b Feb 2020 #2
Great memory! Rhiannon12866 Feb 2020 #20
Picture of the final alignment. HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #4
So is this squirecam Feb 2020 #5
my understanding is she would get reassigned booley Feb 2020 #7
Right but squirecam Feb 2020 #8
that I dont know booley Feb 2020 #9
More than I am squirecam Feb 2020 #10
''she would not realign, meaning that her vote effectively won't count toward anything'' Donkees Feb 2020 #14
Thats where I canvassed last Saturday booley Feb 2020 #6
Ottumwa 25k people and 16 show up. Keokuk Iowa 11k and 9 show up. Sad. krissey Feb 2020 #11
This is just the satellite caucus. It's for people who can't make it to the normal caucus tonight. HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #12
Thank you for explaining this. I didn't understand. Because what I was seeing is sad. krissey Feb 2020 #13
Radar's hometown in mash FiveGoodMen Feb 2020 #19
 

denem

(11,045 posts)
1. (Warren's) one supporter said she does not wish to realign with Sanders.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 03:34 PM
Feb 2020

You don't say? Bernie has burnt his bridges with abandon.

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booley

(3,855 posts)
3. I spoke to a Warren supporter
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 03:40 PM
Feb 2020

I was canvassing in Ottumwa last Saturday.
I spoke to an awesome woman and her boyfriend. She was going to support Warren

But she was also a strong Bernie supporter and if Warren didn't make the threshold would caucus for Sanders.

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Donkees

(31,294 posts)
15. ''she would not realign, meaning that her vote effectively won't count toward anything''
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 04:27 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

denem

(11,045 posts)
16. Says something, doesn't it?
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 04:32 PM
Feb 2020
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krissey

(1,205 posts)
18. It is sad. If it was a regular vote, mail in, it would still count.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 05:02 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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thesquanderer

(11,967 posts)
17. Anecdotal. Sanders leads as second choice among Warren supporters
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 04:38 PM
Feb 2020

according to morning consult.

https://morningconsult.com/2020-democratic-primary/

Sanders also leads as second choice among Biden supporters.

The anti-Sanders sentiment here is not representative of the voters at large. The same poll shows Sanders with 73% favorability among Dem voters, more than anyone else. (Biden second, with 70% favorability.)

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hlthe2b

(102,057 posts)
2. ahhh, Ottumwa, Iowa--home of Radar O'Reily (M*A*S*H)
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 03:35 PM
Feb 2020

what good tv memories.

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HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
4. Picture of the final alignment.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 03:42 PM
Feb 2020
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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
5. So is this
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 03:43 PM
Feb 2020

like an early vote kind of thing?

Does the Warren supporter get added to another caucus location?

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booley

(3,855 posts)
7. my understanding is she would get reassigned
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 03:50 PM
Feb 2020

Not an expert on the rules but if a candidate does not make the 15% threshold, those delegates are released to go to another table.

A candidate who does make the 15%, however, narrow the margin, has those delegates locked in. This is why individuals are so important. A single voter can literally affect the whole thing.

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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
8. Right but
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 03:53 PM
Feb 2020

This was described as a “satellite” location.

I was wondering if that meant those supporters were joined to another location automatically. Thus, if the second location were one Warren voter short, she would be added to it.

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booley

(3,855 posts)
9. that I dont know
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 03:58 PM
Feb 2020

But since one of the volunteer positions is ambassador whose ob to get people to join their table, not sure how moving her to another physical location would work.

Again, I was given a thirty minute tutorial on this so I am not an expert.

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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
10. More than I am
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 03:59 PM
Feb 2020

Thx anyway

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Donkees

(31,294 posts)
14. ''she would not realign, meaning that her vote effectively won't count toward anything''
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 04:22 PM
Feb 2020

The caucus in Ottumwa, population 24,550, on the banks of the Des Moines River, will net Sanders four delegates for their congressional district, according to caucus chair Frank Flanders, the political director for the UFCW Local 230. The Warren supporter said she would not realign, meaning that her vote effectively won’t count toward anything.

The turnout for Sanders among union members reflects the campaign’s strategy of mobilizing nontraditional voters. Many of the Ottumwa meatpackers are immigrants, largely of Ethiopian origin or descent — not the corn-fed farmers typically associated in the popular imagination with the Iowa caucuses.

https://theintercept.com/2020/02/03/iowa-first-caucus-satellite-pork-plant-workers/

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booley

(3,855 posts)
6. Thats where I canvassed last Saturday
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 03:44 PM
Feb 2020

Almost everyone I talked too was open if not strongly favoring Sanders

And the one who wasn't was a Warren supporter who had Sandersas her second choice.

I think I even talked to one of the Ethiopian immigrants and got his wife a ride to the caucus.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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krissey

(1,205 posts)
11. Ottumwa 25k people and 16 show up. Keokuk Iowa 11k and 9 show up. Sad.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 03:59 PM
Feb 2020

I did not know caucus was so poorly represented. I knew it was bad, but not this bad.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
12. This is just the satellite caucus. It's for people who can't make it to the normal caucus tonight.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 04:17 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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krissey

(1,205 posts)
13. Thank you for explaining this. I didn't understand. Because what I was seeing is sad.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 04:19 PM
Feb 2020

That makes more sense.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
19. Radar's hometown in mash
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 05:30 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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