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Mon Feb 3, 2020, 08:57 PM

 

Nina Turner just called Mike Bloomberg an oligarch on MSNBC

So I guess the Sanders campaign feels threatened by him?
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Reply Nina Turner just called Mike Bloomberg an oligarch on MSNBC (Original post)
highplainsdem Feb 2020 OP
SunSeeker Feb 2020 #1
W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #14
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2020 #28
DanTex Feb 2020 #2
sheshe2 Feb 2020 #4
Cha Feb 2020 #17
sheshe2 Feb 2020 #19
SharonClark Feb 2020 #7
DanTex Feb 2020 #8
TwilightZone Feb 2020 #16
DanTex Feb 2020 #24
TomSlick Feb 2020 #35
Doremus Feb 2020 #59
lapucelle Feb 2020 #45
DanTex Feb 2020 #46
lapucelle Feb 2020 #48
lapucelle Feb 2020 #54
lapucelle Feb 2020 #36
JoeOtterbein Feb 2020 #3
Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #26
InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #55
wyldwolf Feb 2020 #5
Zolorp Feb 2020 #6
sheshe2 Feb 2020 #11
House of Roberts Feb 2020 #9
DanTex Feb 2020 #20
LakeArenal Feb 2020 #30
lapucelle Feb 2020 #37
InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #58
EveHammond13 Feb 2020 #10
Mike 03 Feb 2020 #12
Devil Child Feb 2020 #13
Aaron Pereira Feb 2020 #15
LakeArenal Feb 2020 #31
lapucelle Feb 2020 #38
Cha Feb 2020 #40
lapucelle Feb 2020 #44
Aaron Pereira Feb 2020 #47
spooky3 Feb 2020 #52
Aaron Pereira Feb 2020 #60
lapucelle Feb 2020 #53
InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #56
phleshdef Feb 2020 #18
InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #57
Mike Nelson Feb 2020 #21
highplainsdem Feb 2020 #25
Mike Nelson Feb 2020 #29
lapucelle Feb 2020 #39
BadGimp Feb 2020 #22
Jake Stern Feb 2020 #23
msongs Feb 2020 #27
evertonfc Feb 2020 #32
badhair77 Feb 2020 #33
PatSeg Feb 2020 #34
OneMoreCupOfCoffee Feb 2020 #42
PatSeg Feb 2020 #61
sueunderh Feb 2020 #41
Cha Feb 2020 #43
Gothmog Feb 2020 #49
jalan48 Feb 2020 #50
spooky3 Feb 2020 #51
JonLP24 Feb 2020 #62

Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 08:59 PM

1. You're not helping us Dems, Nina.

 

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:10 PM

14. That's a feature -- not a bug.

 

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Response to W_HAMILTON (Reply #14)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:21 PM

28. Sad but true

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 08:59 PM

2. And the problem is?

 

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Response to DanTex (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:01 PM

4. I believe you were calling for unity the other day?

 

Perhaps I am thinking of another poster.
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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:11 PM

17. lol.. nah

 

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Response to Cha (Reply #17)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:13 PM

19. ;)

 

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Response to DanTex (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:02 PM

7. Not all rich people are evil oligarchs.

 

Turner is adept at name calling and divisiveness.
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Response to SharonClark (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:05 PM

8. She didn't say "evil." And Bloomberg is way beyond "rich."

 

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Response to DanTex (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:10 PM

16. The evil is assumed.

 

The usage of the word in modern context is almost always negative (and quite certainly is here) and the presumption is that "evil" is part of the equation.

Let's not pretend she meant it in a positive way. That would be ridiculous.
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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #16)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:14 PM

24. She meant it in a "billionaire trying to buy an election" way.

 

If that's not oligarch, then what is?
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Response to DanTex (Reply #24)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:51 PM

35. Oligarchy (noun)

 

Definition: A small group of people having control of a country, organization, or institution.

Blowing one's money on campaign adds does not make one an oligarch.

For what it's worth, it is unclear that someone can "buy an election" by buying ad time. It is unquestionably true that ad time can buy you name recognition. It is unclear how that translates into votes.
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Response to TomSlick (Reply #35)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:34 PM

59. Definition

 

https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/oligarch

oligarch
Pronunciation /ˈäləˌɡärk/ /ˈɑləˌɡɑrk/
noun

1A ruler in an oligarchy.

2(especially in Russia) a very rich business leader with a great deal of political influence.

Sounds like she used the term accurately, especially given Bloomberg's recent large donation to the DNC and their recent rule change in his favor.
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Response to DanTex (Reply #24)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 10:30 PM

45. Everyone is using money. Bloomberg is using his own money

 

to fund his campaign.

BS is using other people's money. Last week he used it to charter a private jet.
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Response to lapucelle (Reply #45)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 10:31 PM

46. Yeah, it's totally the same thing.

 

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Response to DanTex (Reply #46)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 10:49 PM

48. Actually it isn't. There are dark money allegations against Our Revolution

 

for several six figure donations from undisclosed donors.

Shadow group provides Sanders super PAC support he scorns

https://apnews.com/345bbd1af529cfb1e41305fa3ab1e604

Watchdog files FEC complaint against pro-Sanders nonprofit

https://apnews.com/cd7a58676b6fc8cbe2f9783f469d0bee
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Response to DanTex (Reply #46)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:05 PM

54. ...

 

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Response to DanTex (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:57 PM

36. He isn't one. Senator Nina needs to buy a dictionary.

 

Dog whistle scare tactics are Trump's domain.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:00 PM

3. Quick! Get out the fainting couches!

 

(little laughing emoji guy rolling on the floor)
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Response to JoeOtterbein (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:20 PM

26. Lol.

 

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Response to JoeOtterbein (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:06 PM

55. LMFAO!!

 


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:01 PM

5. that's so 2004! LOL

 

I thought 'progressives' had matured a little.

At least she didn't say the DU favorite 'corporate whore.'
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:01 PM

6. That just makes me more angry at Sanders

 

She is a BIG part of the problem because she voted for Stein.
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Response to Zolorp (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:08 PM

11. Yep, in Ohio.

 

A state we lost to Trump in 2016.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:06 PM

9. $60 BILLION effing dollars, and he's NOT an oligarch?

 

What is he then?
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Response to House of Roberts (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:13 PM

20. And he's not just sitting on the money, he's spending it to try and be president!

 

I don't get how anyone can argue with the "oligarch" term.
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Response to House of Roberts (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:23 PM

30. Oligarchy: (please read the last sentence)

 

, an oligarch is a "member of an oligarchy; a person who is part of a small group holding power in a state". Aristotle gave the concept of oligarchy some negative connotations, but the term does not necessarily imply wealth.
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Response to House of Roberts (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:59 PM

37. A very successful self made businessman. N/T

 

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Response to House of Roberts (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:09 PM

58. Working class... obviously!!

 


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:07 PM

10. attacking other Dems - great plan for unity

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:08 PM

12. I hope the Bernie people don't piss Bloomberg off so much that he reneges on his

 

pledge to give his campaign machinery to the nominee if it's Bernie. I mean, how much abuse is he supposed to gracefully swallow?

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:08 PM

13. Sounds like an appropriate description to me n/t

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:10 PM

15. Bloomberg is the dictionary definition of an oligarch.

 

Not sure what the problem is there.
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Response to Aaron Pereira (Reply #15)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:24 PM

31. Not so much (please note last sentence)

 

, an oligarch is a "member of an oligarchy; a person who is part of a small group holding power in a state". Aristotle gave the concept of oligarchy some negative connotations, but the term does not necessarily imply wealth.
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Response to Aaron Pereira (Reply #15)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 10:06 PM

38. No he's not.

 

The problem is that Nina is using an evil-sounding buzzword without knowing what it really means.
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Response to lapucelle (Reply #38)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 10:20 PM

40. Yeah, that's a big problem for nina

 

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #38)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 10:25 PM

44. The BS campaign seems really scared about Bloomberg's entrance.

 

Bloomberg's going to call BS out for his record of voting with Republicans against sane gun legislation. And the "people in my state hunt/mom and pop gun shops" excuses are not going to work.



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Response to lapucelle (Reply #38)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 10:41 PM

47. Bloomberg is America's 8th richest man spending 100's of Millions on political influence.

 

That is the very definition of the oligarch. It's a dictionary word with a known meaning, there is no reason to be offended by it or call it a made up buzzword of some kind. He is an oligarch.
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Response to Aaron Pereira (Reply #47)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:00 PM

52. If you read the definitions others have provided in this

 

Thread, I don’t think you’d say this. If he had controlling power, he’d appoint himself as the nominee.
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Response to spooky3 (Reply #52)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:41 PM

60. OK. I'll bookmark and review again in the third week of July.

 

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Response to Aaron Pereira (Reply #47)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:01 PM

53. Poor Nina doesn't realize that "oligarch" (like "socialism") is a real word

 

with a real meaning. Her mistake even has a name: the fallacy of equivocation.

Nina know a lot about the topic. That's why she insists on being introduced as "senator".

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Response to Aaron Pereira (Reply #15)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:07 PM

56. There truth hurts obviously!!

 


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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:12 PM

18. I don't like Nina Turner very much but she isn't wrong.

 

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Response to phleshdef (Reply #18)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:08 PM

57. Nice to see some intellectual honesty... RESPECT!!

 


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
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Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:13 PM

21. This is strange, because...

 

... Bloomberg is seen as a rival for moderates, especially Biden. He is not seen as someone getting any significant number of Bernie voters - unless I'm missing something? Could it be positioning Bernie as less a part of the wealthy class, relative to Bloomberg?

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Response to Mike Nelson (Reply #21)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:17 PM

25. See this:

 

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287466179
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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #25)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:22 PM

29. Got it...

 

... a secondary concern Bernie and staff may be thinking about...
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Response to Mike Nelson (Reply #21)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 10:14 PM

39. BS voted with the Republicans 5 times against the Brady Bill

 

and he voted with the Republicans for one of the NRA's pet projects: The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act.

And Bloomberg's going to call him out for it, over, and over, and over.

That's why Nina and the BS campaign are running scared.



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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:13 PM

22. I used to be Rich!

 

I'm not anymore.

But I'm still an asshole.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:14 PM

23. Hmmmm. . . . .

 

Trump is viciously lashing out at Bloomberg but he has defended Sanders.

Wonder who he fears more?

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:20 PM

27. so is multi millionaire bernie. b ig deal nt

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:27 PM

32. Turner

 

is nuts. Really. Bernie hurts himself by the company he keeps.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:40 PM

33. Not impressed by Turner. Makes me question Bernie's judgement

 

in choosing his team.
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Response to badhair77 (Reply #33)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 09:45 PM

34. Very poor judgement

 

when it comes to his campaign staff. They reflect on him.
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Response to PatSeg (Reply #34)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 10:22 PM

42. Again. And again. And again.

 

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Response to OneMoreCupOfCoffee (Reply #42)

Tue Feb 4, 2020, 12:39 AM

61. Yes

 

They all make mistakes, but Bernie makes the same mistakes and brought back some of the questionable staff from 2016.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 10:21 PM

41. Nina Turner: Shit Stirrer

 

Nina Turner is emblematic of the shit stirrers, trouble makers and grievance assholes surrounding Bernie Sanders. Bernie and his supporters are always complaining, are always the victims and fight dirty. I don't like Bernie. Never have, but if he's the nominee I will vote for him.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 10:24 PM

43. yeah, sounds like nina is desperate.

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 10:50 PM

49. Prof. Jason Johnson does a good job on this silly claim

 


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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 10:57 PM

50. I'd say Plutocrat for those offended with the term Oligarch.

 



plu·to·crat
/ˈplo͞odəˌkrat/
Learn to pronounce
nounDEROGATORY
a person whose power derives from their wealth.
"champagne-swilling plutocrats"
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 10:58 PM

51. As Nicolle Wallace said, a Republican would gladly take

 

Bloomberg’s money.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Feb 4, 2020, 12:42 AM

62. I'm sorry but he is

 

He is trying to buy his way into the Presidency. There is a lot he can spend his money on except on yourself. Stick to gun control & climate change the only issues he'll find real agreement on.
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