Post after post I am reading that this 'glitch' is the Democrats fault.

[sheshe2]

Not Mitch who refused to pass legislation to protect our elections. Not Donnie that colluded with Russia and a GOP that enabled him to do the same. I blame the election commission in Iowa who apparently were having problems uploading the Aps days before the election, The Dept. of Homeland Security, The DOJ and the rest that have looked the other way.

Nope, it is the Democrats fault.

I am so sorry for all our candidates that worked so hard to make it to Iowa only to go home without a result.

[Tiggeroshii]

1. If this doesn't end up counting. That is a lot of money, time, energy and organizing

completely for nothing.

[sheshe2]

4. They are doing a manual recount.

May take days. We will go into the debates without answers.

[brooklynite]

2. This is a Party event, not State election...

Whatever Mitch did or din't do wouldn't affect the outcome in Iowa.

[sheshe2]

10. I don't give a dayum if it was a party event.

I am assuming that protecting voting rights and election protections would apply to both parties.

[Ace Rothstein]

15. Nobody is to blame but the state party for this fiasco.

That's it. They dropped the ball, big time.

[stopdiggin]

16. don't give a dayum

and don't understand a great deal either. Strictly a Democratic party show.

[Polybius]

22. It only applies to General Elections

Party primaries and caucuses don't count. The law stating voting is 18 and up doesn't even count. If the Democratic or Republican Party wanted to lower their primary voting to 16, they could.

[jberryhill]

27. The federal government does not interfere in how organizations run their affairs

The US Congress and President had as much to do with this election as they do with Homecoming Queen at your nearest high school.

[Crabby Appleton]

31. I knew it, the homecoming queen vote was rigged

No wonder I didn't win.

[jberryhill]

32. Paying off the Chinese sweatshop for the handmade posters is the tricky bit

[jg10003]

11. Correct. Poor planning and preparation by the state party apparatus.

[DonaldsRump]

3. I thought the IDP specifically ruled out external interference?

If I'm wrong, I'm happy to be corrected.

[stopdiggin]

17. they did. but the screamers aren't about to listen. (nt)

[democrattotheend]

5. But did any of those things affect the results tonight?

I thought they used an app that the Iowa Democratic Party commissioned for the caucuses.

[scheming daemons]

6. This Caucus literally had nothing to do with any election commission

It is run COMPLETELY by the Iowa Democratic Party.


In this case, sadly, we cannot blame Mitch or anyone else. This Caucus was completely under Dem control.

[comradebillyboy]

7. A sad state of affairs indeed.

[2naSalit]

8. We'll know in short order

if the opposition party has anything to do with this caucus mess, the dolt will tell on himself tomorrow night.


This is bad for a lot of reasons.

[napi21]

9. IT IS the Democrats fault because they hired a company that proved to be incompetant! I just heard

Brian Williams stating the programming was done by a contracted company. I bet they hired the cheapest bid to save some $$ only to loose a whole lot more.

[phleshdef]

12. It is the Iowa Democratic Party's fault. Thats just the sad truth.

[Tipperary]

13. All I know is that rump must be laughing his ass off.

Assuming he has not already been put to bed with his binkie.

[herding cats]

14. I'm waiting for an explanation before I cast full blame here.

I'm doubtful I'll have what I want anytime soon, but a I can dream.

Officially, Iowa used an app that wasn't fully debugged. That's fully on them.

I was told they used personal phones to apply the app. I don't know if that's true, but if it is, it was extremely foolish. It opens so many doors to potential problems. Many tiers of potential problems.

And, no one will trust these results. Be that fair or not, it is what it is. Ultimately, the Iowa caucus was a huge waste of time and money for all our candidates. 👉 Resources lost.

[stopdiggin]

21. thank you for being somewhat more patient

than some of your compatriots. And the frustration is 100% understandable.

I think we could keep emphasizing here that there ARE hand written paper ballots that ARE retained. There will be an accurate tally as they are already going back to this fail safe. If people are willing to exercise some patience and trust. This is after all one of the more "hands on" and voter participatory processes in one of the smaller states .. the likelihood of actual skulduggery here is pretty minimal .. in terms of either capabilities or intent.

Or .. we could all just go ahead and keep screaming about "cheating" and "rigging" and Russians and what have you ... Because that will certainly help.

[herding cats]

23. I'm extremely patient, to a fault.

That's just my personality. I'm an information gatherer.

I gather information like a crow gathers trinkets. I tend to distribute them as seldomly.

We'll see what the caucus goers have to say in the days ahead. I expect that will be the metric the media uses, since it's an always in flux process which can't be attributed back to a specific person.

Watch. Some can, and will say they thought they'd caucus with X as their number 2 but we're swayed to caucus with Y. Literally, that's how the system works there.

I'm not a huge fan of caucuses. I've done them, they're not as exciting as people tend to think. They're awkward, uncomfortable and tense. They're a personality test. Which I'm good at in public situations. I rally well, I just dislike it.

[stopdiggin]

33. same

I've done them, they're not as exciting as people tend to think. They're awkward, uncomfortable and tense. They're a personality test. Which I'm good at in public situations. I rally well, I just dislike it.

pretty much has it in a nutshell.
I'm so sorry that this turned into a black eye .. for everyone. Not sure that a lot of it is deserved. For the most part you have a lot of volunteers running around putting in a lot of effort ... And they kind of got let down.

[pressbox69]

19. Maybe it's just

Iowa's subtle way of letting the Dem's know that they don't matter. Iowa voted for Orange Cancer in 2016 and they probably will again in 2020.

[Raine]

20. It IS their fault

they're being blamed because they deserve to be!

[BeyondGeography]

24. Please. We need to start holding our own people accountable.

This was a disaster of our own making.

I too am sorry our candidates didn't get the clear result they deserved. That's on their fellow Democrats.

[Crabby Appleton]

25. That's because it is

It's a party primary, not an election, all of it is the party's fault.

UN rec

[gab13by13]

26. Where is Tom Perez?

Why is he allowing Trump and his cult to control the narrative?

[Kota]

28. trump and the media are creating a narrative that it is the unorganized democrats.

My first thought was, good they are getting it right before announcing anything. Then start listening to the media spin that its incompetence. We continually let the media spin these things for us. And why do they do it? Because we listen and react. Repugs don't and no point trying to spin what trump does and repugs do.

[asiliveandbreathe]

29. What the hell..if the precinct chairs are supposed to use an app to report votes

then they should have the numbers..already..to report manually..even if the app is unavailable..haven't we been saying "where is the backup info"...HERE we have BACKUP...unlike the red state state vote skimming WITHOUT backup..

There I said what is on my mind...this is infuriating..all the "he did it, she did it, they did it" BS is just that...BS..

"mornin' sheshe2...

[LanternWaste]

30. It does tend to underline the concern bad hires can result in horrible consequences.

Although there is a particular irony in that... we've seen stupid actions, intolerant words, and brain-dead tweets by irresponsible campaign staff and contract hires over the past four months, but they get minimized as wholly outside the purview and responsibility of the guy who hires them.

I'm guessing a distinction lacking a relevant difference will be the ultimate response, but at this point, I'd bet any rationalization will do.

[Demsrule86]

34. Very important point SheShe2. You are correct.

[sheshe2]

35. thank you..........