The DNC should invalidate the whole thing and let Iowans have a mail in ballot do-over later.

[phleshdef]

I'm not coming from a place of bias here. This was a huge insult to every single one of our candidates that spent so much time, energy and money campaigning there. This is an embarrassment that will (unfairly) reflect on the entire party. We can't go around complaining about unfair elections while allowing something like this to stand.

[madaboutharry]

1. That is ridiculous.

They have paper ballots signed by each voter.

[phleshdef]

4. Wasn't there precincts reporting bad numbers too?

I mean hey, if they can prove that there will be integrity in their final result, I guess I'm ok with it. But there were also a lot of reports of confusion about the rules and the rules not being followed in places, so I'm not sure any of this was done correctly.

[unitedwethrive]

2. The good news is that everything is on paper, it is just a matter of getting all the data together.

So even though it will take time, it is not at much risk of being unreliable. (There were so many people at each site that knew the results, that any misreporting of numbers would be unlikely.)

[Algernon Moncrieff]

3. Actually, I'd like to see all primaries done that way.

A registered party member for = or > 90 days. No "Democrat for a Day" voters. Ballots go out 6 weeks prior and anything postmarked by election day is counted.

[question everything]

5. Don't they vote by mail in Oregon?

[phleshdef]

8. Yes and from what I hear, its the most efficient system in the country.

[question everything]

9. Then let's do it!

[Pololv]

10. Totally agree. NT

[scheming daemons]

6. No, can't do that.

The lawsuits would be endless.

Have to count the paper results they have and report them.

[phleshdef]

7. They can do whatever they want. Remember Florida and Michigan in 2008?

Didn't they end up using exit polls for how people WOULD have voted had Obama and other candidates been on those ballots? I remember watching that entire hearing with all the party big wigs on C-Span and angry old white women yelling about how they were gonna vote for McCain, calling Obama an "inadequate black male" and nasty stuff like that.

[The Revolution]

11. Don't be absurd

There's no issue with the integrity of the vote, it's just taking longer to report all the results. Note that this is largely due to the DNC butting on and telling us how to run the caucus when it had worked fine for decades previously.

There is nothing wrong with releasing the results when we are sure we have everything counted. Remember 2000? We were so eager to get the results now now now that they just declared Bush the winner even though Florida wasn't anywhere near close to done counting.

[Zolorp]

13. There were issues

Multiple precincts conducted the second round incorrectly.

The results of this caucus will always be under a cloud of suspicion due to this fact. Without rules being followed consistently in all precincts, we'll never know the actual results.

Fortunately, this only affects 41 delegates out of thousands so it is unlikely the eventual nominee will lose legitimacy over this debacle.

[phleshdef]

16. If the reports about the 2nd round being screwed up are true...

....then yes, the integrity of the vote is in question.

[Polybius]

14. Before I even clicked on the topic, I knew this had to be from a Biden supporter

It was painfully obvious.

[phleshdef]

15. Has nothing to do with my candidate choice.

If they do it over and Biden comes in fucking 6th, I would accept it. But with reports of multiple precincts screwing up the rules with the 2nd phase, the whole thing will always have a cloud over it.