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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 08:43 AM Feb 2020

"The rest of the country was already losing patience with Iowa anyway and this cooks Iowa's goose."



Philip Rucker ✔@PhilipRucker

“This fiasco means the end of the caucuses as a significant American political event. The rest of the country was already losing patience with Iowa anyway and this cooks Iowa's goose. Frankly, it should,” Iowa journalism legend David Yepsen tells Politico

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/03/iowa-caucus-2020-election-110600
Confusion seizes Iowa as caucus results delayed
The Iowa Democratic Party is blaming the hold-up on "quality checks."


7:35 AM - Feb 4, 2020


Yup!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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"The rest of the country was already losing patience with Iowa anyway and this cooks Iowa's goose." (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 OP
As long as states have the right to choose when they have their primaries, Sloumeau Feb 2020 #1
Phil didn't write it Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #2
I don't want Iowa to hold so much weight either. Sloumeau Feb 2020 #3
I was done with Iowa even before thus fiasco. katmondoo Feb 2020 #4
Personally, I think the expectation of immediate results is part of the problem. Pacifist Patriot Feb 2020 #5
 

Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
1. As long as states have the right to choose when they have their primaries,
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 08:59 AM
Feb 2020

and as long as Iowa chooses to go first, it will have undue influence on the primaries. Philip Rucker has no clue.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
2. Phil didn't write it
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 09:06 AM
Feb 2020

He just retweeted the politico story. And I agree with it. IA isn't representative of the Democratic Party and shouldn't hold so much weight in the process.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
3. I don't want Iowa to hold so much weight either.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 09:16 AM
Feb 2020

However, the section that Phil Rucker quoted was basically saying, "This cooks Iowa's goose". No, it does not. As long as Iowa can still go first, it will still have undue influence, and I see no indication that Iowa will suddenly no longer go first. Iowa's goose is not cooked if Iowa does not want its goose to be cooked. As for Phil Rucker, when you quote someone without disagreeing with them, it implies that you have no problem with what they are saying.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

katmondoo

(6,457 posts)
4. I was done with Iowa even before thus fiasco.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 09:27 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
5. Personally, I think the expectation of immediate results is part of the problem.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 09:54 AM
Feb 2020

Technological advances in communication are great, but they've also given us unrealistic expectations. And for those of us advocating for paper ballots and hand counts, we have to accept what that means in practical terms. If we go back to less technologically advanced methods of voting to improve confidence in the outcome of our elections, we may not know the results of an election for days or weeks. I'm fine with that, but candidates, campaigns, political parties, and journalists probably aren't that patient.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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