It's very likely that Pete went in the doors last night with the most voters.

[RDANGELO]

I happened to be watching MSNBC when they showed the whole breakdown of men and women. Sanders won men by about 5% over Pete. Pete won women by about the same margin over Sanders, but women out numbered men in the caucuses by 16%

[LongtimeAZDem]

1. We'll never know. Communication was bad, outside influences were present, and since it

was a multi-stage process, we have no way of knowing if candidates advanced fairly.

[RDANGELO]

8. As long as they have the documentation they can figrure it out.

It would be no different than is they used paper ballots.

[LongtimeAZDem]

9. In the case of a primary, you would be right, but not in this case. Since each round after the first

is based on the previous results, unless the accuracy of the counts as conveyed to the participants at the time can be absolutely verified, the whole structure collapses. Any miscommunication would invalidate later results.

The only possible remedy I see is to take the very first results, which would not rely on later information.

[denem]

10. There are video records.

[LongtimeAZDem]

12. So what you would have to do is reconstruct every location by time-stamp, and verify that the info

conveyed at the time was accurate.

The election will be over long before that can be accomplished.

[denem]

13. Phone videos are time / geo stamped.

Yes I know that can be faked, but geez.

[LongtimeAZDem]

14. I'm not worried about them being faked; I'm talking about whether the info given to the participants

was accurate at the time.

Verifying that will take forever, if it is even possible, and if anything doesn't match up, it's all tainted.

[democrattotheend]

2. I don't think so

I think Bernie went in with the most supporters at the start of the night, based on what I was seeing on Twitter and what the media was reporting. But it seems like Pete picked up more voters from non-viable candidates than Bernie did, so it's possible Pete came out on top in terms of votes and/or delegates.

[squirecam]

5. I believe this is correct

Nt

[Cosmocat]

3. Pretty sure Bernie had the most people caucus with him start and finish

Probably has Pete by 2% give or take.

There are rumblings that Pete might have gotten the most delegates, though.

That would be the two of them chopping the first place pot ...

[RDANGELO]

4. Math doesn't lie.

If those numbers are anywhere near accurate, Pete went in with the most voters.

[Cosmocat]

15. HIS math has him second to Bernie

nm

[judeling]

6. May be may be not but it doesn't matter now

Pete lost the bump he may have gotten. Because of the mess.

And his speech will play into his developing arrogance narrative.

[RDANGELO]

7. Voters have six whole days to learn about who won.

The media has a point, but they are totally over hyping this.

[judeling]

11. Voters will move on

State of the Union tonight and then into on the ground in New Hampshire and forums and Debates.

Can you say Rick Santorum?