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rdking647

(5,113 posts)
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:32 AM Feb 2020

the DNC should declare the iowas caucus results invalid

either hold another primary or else dont allow the results to count.
make the announcment now,before any results are released

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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the DNC should declare the iowas caucus results invalid (Original Post) rdking647 Feb 2020 OP
Agreed Sherman A1 Feb 2020 #1
Not including Iowa in the final tally would definitely benefit those who did poorly. jalan48 Feb 2020 #2
Can they do that? MontanaMama Feb 2020 #3
they can in theory do anything they want rdking647 Feb 2020 #6
I posted the same thing last night and was trashed for it. phleshdef Feb 2020 #4
yep avlbeerfan Feb 2020 #5
Before doing that DonaldsRump Feb 2020 #7
Make everyone go back to Iowa for Iowa Caucus Rev. 2 dalton99a Feb 2020 #8
They could declare Putin the winner IronLionZion Feb 2020 #9
Time to start holding primaries PatSeg Feb 2020 #10
Long past time. Golden Raisin Feb 2020 #16
I think that more information would be helpful. David__77 Feb 2020 #11
they'll be able to figure it out. the real problem is our need to know immediately. Kurt V. Feb 2020 #12
Maybe, but it doesn't really matter. DanTex Feb 2020 #13
Probably for the best, especially if the reports of improper procedure are true Amishman Feb 2020 #14
They should at least wait until results come out and see RDANGELO Feb 2020 #15
How about not releasing ANY results until Super Tuesday, then release them all... getagrip_already Feb 2020 #17
Damned if they do and damned if they don't. Politicub Feb 2020 #18
Whether they declare it so or not, it already is LongtimeAZDem Feb 2020 #19
 

jalan48

(13,860 posts)
2. Not including Iowa in the final tally would definitely benefit those who did poorly.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:34 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MontanaMama

(23,308 posts)
3. Can they do that?
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:35 AM
Feb 2020

It sounds good to me...I don’t think anyone trusts the results of the mess made last night.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

rdking647

(5,113 posts)
6. they can in theory do anything they want
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:36 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
4. I posted the same thing last night and was trashed for it.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:35 AM
Feb 2020

None of this was fair or good for ANY of the candidates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

avlbeerfan

(52 posts)
5. yep
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:35 AM
Feb 2020

Sounds good at this point.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
7. Before doing that
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:36 AM
Feb 2020

it might help if we understood the exact problem. Right now, the main issue appears that there was the app issue, which could be dealt with by paper certifications. That's just a matter of time.

The other thing that apparently CNN was reporting earlier was that several precincts messed up how the non-viables could move after the first round. If that's true, perhaps the Caucus results do need to be invalidated if this was more than a few.

Wait and see. If robust results are available today, announce during the SOTU.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

dalton99a

(81,455 posts)
8. Make everyone go back to Iowa for Iowa Caucus Rev. 2
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:38 AM
Feb 2020

"It works, we promise"

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IronLionZion

(45,432 posts)
9. They could declare Putin the winner
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:39 AM
Feb 2020

since it was a bit irritating to see news media announce that Trump had won the GOP caucus. Cue the SNL church lady: Well, isn't that special....

If I were to vote in a presidential
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PatSeg

(47,413 posts)
10. Time to start holding primaries
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:39 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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David__77

(23,372 posts)
11. I think that more information would be helpful.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:40 AM
Feb 2020

Is there something impinging on the integrity of the votes themselves? Is there good documentation and chain of custody? Were the agreed upon rules followed? I don't know about that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
12. they'll be able to figure it out. the real problem is our need to know immediately.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:41 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
13. Maybe, but it doesn't really matter.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:44 AM
Feb 2020

Iowa is always about momentum, not delegates. When the results come out, in terms of national delegates, it's going to be a few here and there.

Maybe they should do it again, but that requires funding and planning. But even if they do, it doesn't undo the damage to the party of having this happen. We don't get an Obama moment like in 2008. The delegates from Iowa didn't make any difference then. But the speech he gave and the momentum he got made people believe he could win for the first time, and ultimately changed the course of history. That could have happened for one or two candidates here. But it didn't.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Amishman

(5,555 posts)
14. Probably for the best, especially if the reports of improper procedure are true
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:44 AM
Feb 2020

We have twofold issues

CNN was reporting that multiple sites were doing the realignment process improperly during the caucus itself (can't find a article on this however)

Data completeness and integrity concerns

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RDANGELO

(3,433 posts)
15. They should at least wait until results come out and see
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:45 AM
Feb 2020

how much confidence they have in them. If they have all of the documentation they should be able to get accurate results. It would be no different than a paper ballot election.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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getagrip_already

(14,721 posts)
17. How about not releasing ANY results until Super Tuesday, then release them all...
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:54 AM
Feb 2020

The first 2 states are meaningless anyway. Just lump the results together.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
18. Damned if they do and damned if they don't.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:55 AM
Feb 2020

Nothing is going to erase the Iowa debacle and how utterly unorganized and amateur it appears to be.

It’s a stain on the primary process now. You can’t spend more than a year building up so much interest in Iowa and emotion about the outcome, and then expect an easy fix to move on without it dominating the news cycle.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
19. Whether they declare it so or not, it already is
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 12:00 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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