Joe doesn't seem to be too upset, just moves on to victory where the race will be decided

[Thekaspervote]

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Go Joe...he knows!!

[DanTex]

1. Of course not, because his fourth-place finish is obscured by the screw-up.

If anyone actually benefited from it all, it was Joe.

[Thekaspervote]

3. Numbers don't lie...

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[DanTex]

4. It's also a bit, umm, strange that the Biden camp is celebrating low turnout.

[onetexan]

10. nobody is celebrating anything. Rather it is a sad state of affairs what happened in IA and a clear

indicator they've gotta do away with caucuses, period. This is what everyone is saying. No one is winning anything given the situation.

[Thekaspervote]

19. Where in the above tweet post does it say Biden is celebrating low turn out... get a grip!!

[booley]

26. They need to spin this

The screw up is actually helping Biden since by the time the numbers are released the news cycle would have moved on.

Instead of Sanders giving a Victory speech, all the candidates gave a speech.
Amy Klobuchar gave the first speech. Klobuchar came in fifth. Why does her speech deserve attention? But she gave it and the news played it as if it meant something.

So Sanders didn't' get the media bump that's the reason candidates want to win Iowa in the first place. Meanwhile that Biden came in fourth gets lost in the noise.

And of course, now Biden can spin this as "You can't' trust those numbers" even though we have a paper trail so we actually can trust those numbers.

So Biden gets to pretend he is still viable just a little bit longer where he hopes S. Carolina will save him.

And to your point.. yeah...

If the argument is people didn't' turn out for Bernie they turned out for Biden even less.

[still_one]

12. The caucus is a discriminatory system. It discriminates against those that have mobility issues,

and those that can’t spend several hours in the caucus hall

One vote one person, and should not be badgered by others telling them how to vote

While some may want to blame it on software, the problem is the caucus process itself

Do we really want a system that is structured to exclude certain demographics?

[Kentonio]

32. That's a bit weird.

If he turned out huge numbers of the same people who voted for him 4 years ago, then that would be an excellent result. Why would he be relying purely on first time caucus attendees?

[asiliveandbreathe]

6. I haven't seen any results of anyone having any #place finish..

May I ask if you have a link...or is this your assumption..undecided????

[George II]

8. Alexandra Rojas, Executive Director of Justice Democrats, declared it on CNN this morning!

[asiliveandbreathe]

14. So, Alex is saying they have the results????....

Just asking.....

[George II]

16. No, she's just using CNN to campaign just like she did all night last night. Their panel is....

....six or seven people, she's the only one affiliated with a candidate.

[greenjar_01]

30. Bernie's people released *their* tabulations of 44% of the precincts

Which 44%, they did not say.

[George II]

7. No one knows where any of the candidates finished.

[DanTex]

9. That's exactly the line Biden uses to obscure his fourth place performance.

The numbers will come out, but Biden is hoping that by then nobody pays attention anymore. I don't know if that line will work with all the big donors that poured millions into Iowa for him just to get fourth place. But who knows.

[LanternWaste]

17. I get why you guys are working on lowering the expectations for Sanders.

Tough old world when you have to concentrate less on the victor... simply to give victor's placing some meaning.

That narrative bodes ill for you going forward. "But who knows."

[Thekaspervote]

23. Yes, as shown by the numbers in post #3

[George II]

21. It's not a "line", it's a fact. No one knows where anyone finished.

[cwydro]

24. Absolutely.

I’m sure they’re having some serious conversations this morning.

[Walleye]

2. Joe has experienced setbacks a lot worse than this.

[booley]

11. True

He has done two other Democratic primaries and failed to win there too.

[George II]

22. Biden has never lost a primary.

[Walleye]

29. I meant setbacks in life

As fast as I know, he’s never lost an election.

[Thekaspervote]

13. it was sanders that fought for DNC rules change ..so kinda seems fitting

[Crowman2009]

5. I think we all agree that caucuses need to go the way of the dinosaur.

Fifty states (along with territories and expats abroad) should have a primary. I would go as far as to have them occur all in one day instead of dragging it out over several months.

[BlueIdaho]

20. Caucuses are cheap, quick, and dirty.

They are also chaos machines. The ONLY solution is to get rid of them.

[cwydro]

15. That footage of him arriving in New Hampshire in the early hours made me cringe.

He really looks tired. The difference between him and Klobuchar was striking.

I’m sure he drives himself too hard, so I hope someone is making sure he gets rest.

I’m a helluva lot younger than him, and no way could I keep up that pace.

[getagrip_already]

18. Joe was never going to win either iowa or nh.. he has priced that in to his strategy.....

His emails to supporters both before and after tempered expectations. No big deal. Just keep working.

Iowa especially is made up of activists and knuckleheads (affectionately speaking) who vote out of passion. They are the ones motivated to turn out on a monday night and spend hours playing musical chairs.

Given the number of candidates and the makeup of activists, the spoils will be insignificant.

In '16 there were only 2 candidates. They roughly split the delegates with clinton getting 2 more than sanders (23-21).

This round, the winner might get 10-12. So will the runner up with the remainder going to whoever else makes the cut.

Nobody will be out of it after the results come in. SC and super tuesday have so many more delegates it isn't even a fair comparison.

[Thekaspervote]

25. True!

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[Iliyah]

28. This . . .

Top two are Mayor Pete and VP Biden . .

The Black vote in the south is crucial.

[Ace Rothstein]

31. The party base isn't a bunch of states we have no chance of winning in the general.

[Sloumeau]

27. Hahaha. Rachel McAdams as Regina George in "Mean Girls". nt