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Jeff Weaver: Sanders wins with 29.4% (Original Post) sandensea Feb 2020 OP
And He Has That Info How? Me. Feb 2020 #1
.. George II Feb 2020 #3
Sure. It's his claim, based on "internal numbers from 60% of caucus locations" sandensea Feb 2020 #5
40% - unless he's pulled more numbers out today sweetloukillbot Feb 2020 #12
Right. "60%" is merely what he said in his statement. sandensea Feb 2020 #14
Yes. wisteria Feb 2020 #34
I am watching this sunnybrook Feb 2020 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #11
Pete's giving his numbers. JudyM Feb 2020 #35
Exactly wisteria Feb 2020 #36
Bernie's people say Bernie won. Well, that settles THAT LongtimeAZDem Feb 2020 #4
LOL wisteria Feb 2020 #38
Partial results provided by one candidate. Why the hell would MSNBC give them a platform for this? highplainsdem Feb 2020 #6
Could He & HIs People Mess Things Up Any More Than They Have Already Done? Me. Feb 2020 #8
Take a guess. wisteria Feb 2020 #39
Jeff Weaver is reporting partial results from precincts that Bernie did well in.... scheming daemons Feb 2020 #7
Well, if Jeff Weaver BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #9
Yep squirecam Feb 2020 #10
True. Nothing's official yet; it's just his word at this point sandensea Feb 2020 #13
... BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #43
I heard that the Sanders campaign sent workers to every caucus to record the live results Autumn Feb 2020 #15
Yes they are reporting based on 40% of precincts. OneMoreCupOfCoffee Feb 2020 #17
Well if you know where he wasn't viable by all means post those numbers and let us know. Autumn Feb 2020 #19
I'm waiting for official returns... OneMoreCupOfCoffee Feb 2020 #20
And I'm commenting on a post I was interested in. Autumn Feb 2020 #22
So? I don't trust Jeff Weaver. OneMoreCupOfCoffee Feb 2020 #23
Well I do and that can't be changed by you so... just scroll on by.nt Autumn Feb 2020 #27
But you claimed that BS "sent workers to every caucus to record the live results." OneMoreCupOfCoffee Feb 2020 #28
Scroll on by.... Autumn Feb 2020 #32
Nah. One can't have a team that claims to have people on the ground OneMoreCupOfCoffee Feb 2020 #41
I am with you on this. wisteria Feb 2020 #40
The level of credibility of Jeff Weaver (et al)? OneMoreCupOfCoffee Feb 2020 #16
I mean if I needed comic books he'd be my guy but not on this. HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #18
MSNBC just said RCP has him winning at approx. that number. JudyM Feb 2020 #21
Do you have a link? JudyM Feb 2020 #24
Nope - link to all precincts data FreeState Feb 2020 #25
Thanks for that link. It does match what Weaver said. sandensea Feb 2020 #30
Those numbers look around 25% total votes sweetloukillbot Feb 2020 #33
The "data" was collected by the BS campaign. lapucelle Feb 2020 #26
Pretending its real BS 2016 49.6% - BS 2020 29.4% Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #29
Good point wisteria Feb 2020 #42
Sure wisteria Feb 2020 #31
He didn't say "wins". He said it's what their numbers show with 60% of Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #37
 

Me.

(35,454 posts)
1. And He Has That Info How?
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:17 PM
Feb 2020

That will certainly bring forth calls of favoritism and rigging if he has been given early results

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sandensea

(21,624 posts)
5. Sure. It's his claim, based on "internal numbers from 60% of caucus locations"
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:18 PM
Feb 2020

It's not official, so we can only take him at his word.

We'll know more in 3-4 hours (knock wood!).

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sweetloukillbot

(11,008 posts)
12. 40% - unless he's pulled more numbers out today
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:25 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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sandensea

(21,624 posts)
14. Right. "60%" is merely what he said in his statement.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:27 PM
Feb 2020

How true is all that? We'll see in a few hours.

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sunnybrook

(1,156 posts)
2. I am watching this
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:17 PM
Feb 2020

How the hell is it the candidate's job to report results? Totally inappropriate

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Response to sunnybrook (Reply #2)

 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
4. Bernie's people say Bernie won. Well, that settles THAT
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:18 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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highplainsdem

(48,968 posts)
6. Partial results provided by one candidate. Why the hell would MSNBC give them a platform for this?
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:21 PM
Feb 2020
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Me.

(35,454 posts)
8. Could He & HIs People Mess Things Up Any More Than They Have Already Done?
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:23 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
7. Jeff Weaver is reporting partial results from precincts that Bernie did well in....
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:23 PM
Feb 2020

..... it is data manipulation.

He is basically saying:

"In the precincts we were strongest, our total shows us with 29%".


That's B.S.

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BlueMTexpat

(15,366 posts)
9. Well, if Jeff Weaver
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:23 PM
Feb 2020

says it, it must be so.

Personally, I'll wait for the official results.

Allowing or appointing Weaver do something like this is just another reason why BS is NOT among my preferred candidates.

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sandensea

(21,624 posts)
13. True. Nothing's official yet; it's just his word at this point
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:25 PM
Feb 2020

I felt it was worth noting that he made this statement - but have no opinion one way or the other.

Could be right; could be wrong. We'll see tonight (knock wood).

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Autumn

(45,056 posts)
15. I heard that the Sanders campaign sent workers to every caucus to record the live results
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:27 PM
Feb 2020
They had a big ground game there.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

OneMoreCupOfCoffee

(314 posts)
17. Yes they are reporting based on 40% of precincts.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:29 PM
Feb 2020

Places BS did well. How about the places where Sanders was not viable?

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Autumn

(45,056 posts)
19. Well if you know where he wasn't viable by all means post those numbers and let us know.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:32 PM
Feb 2020

I'm commenting on the OP and posted what I heard, not something I pulled out of my ass.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

OneMoreCupOfCoffee

(314 posts)
20. I'm waiting for official returns...
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:33 PM
Feb 2020

not spinning the BS of of people like Jeff Weaver and Jeff Sirota.

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Autumn

(45,056 posts)
22. And I'm commenting on a post I was interested in.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:34 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

OneMoreCupOfCoffee

(314 posts)
23. So? I don't trust Jeff Weaver.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:37 PM
Feb 2020

And if the vaunted BS "organization" is so great, why does Weaver release numbers based on 40% of precincts? Huh? Why?

Something smells very fishy.

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Autumn

(45,056 posts)
27. Well I do and that can't be changed by you so... just scroll on by.nt
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:40 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

OneMoreCupOfCoffee

(314 posts)
28. But you claimed that BS "sent workers to every caucus to record the live results."
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:44 PM
Feb 2020

Right? Yet Weaver says his numbers are based on 40% of the precincts.

Do you not see how these to claims don't add up?

Same old. Same old.

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OneMoreCupOfCoffee

(314 posts)
41. Nah. One can't have a team that claims to have people on the ground
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:57 PM
Feb 2020

in every precinct and then release numbers based on 40% of the precincts, especially with the very bad track records of Weaver, Sirota, Turner , and Joy Gray.

Sub-zero credibility.

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OneMoreCupOfCoffee

(314 posts)
16. The level of credibility of Jeff Weaver (et al)?
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:27 PM
Feb 2020

Sub-zero.

What does David Sirota say?

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HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
18. I mean if I needed comic books he'd be my guy but not on this.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:32 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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JudyM

(29,233 posts)
21. MSNBC just said RCP has him winning at approx. that number.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:34 PM
Feb 2020

(Don’t remember the precise number, and not immediately finding it on their website)

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JudyM

(29,233 posts)
24. Do you have a link?
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:37 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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sandensea

(21,624 posts)
30. Thanks for that link. It does match what Weaver said.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:47 PM
Feb 2020

The link you provided shows Pete getting 24.7% of the aligned votes - which matches the figure Weaver mentioned (24.9%, as I recall) almost exactly.

We'll know later today - knock wood.

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sweetloukillbot

(11,008 posts)
33. Those numbers look around 25% total votes
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:51 PM
Feb 2020

Less in delegates.
It is running roughly with what Sanders is claiming.
Unless Warren, Biden or Klobuchar did a lot better, Sanders may have this.
This is all going off unofficial numbers though.

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lapucelle

(18,250 posts)
26. The "data" was collected by the BS campaign.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:39 PM
Feb 2020

Jeff Weaver's statement:

Due to the failure of the Iowa Democratic Party to release results tonight and in the interest of full transparency, Bernie 2020 Senior Advisor Jeff Weaver is releasing the campaign’s internal reporting numbers, which represent the results from nearly 40 percent of precincts in Iowa."

"'We recognize that this does not replace the full data from the Iowa Democratic Party, but we believe firmly that our supporters worked too hard for too long to have the results of that work delayed,' Jeff Weaver said."

"The data below was collected by trained Sanders volunteers at representative precincts from all four congressional districts from a cross section of urban and rural parts of the state."


There is no "data below" because the KCCI website declined to post the "data" that the BS campaign had collected.

https://www.kcci.com/article/listen-iowa-democratic-party-gives-statement-on-results-delay-campaigns-respond/30759843
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Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
29. Pretending its real BS 2016 49.6% - BS 2020 29.4%
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:46 PM
Feb 2020

sounds like BS really did lose half of his support since 2016

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wisteria

(19,581 posts)
31. Sure
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:50 PM
Feb 2020

He knows no more than anyone else. He is just trying to create inevitably outcome.

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Nanjeanne

(4,950 posts)
37. He didn't say "wins". He said it's what their numbers show with 60% of
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:53 PM
Feb 2020

Precincts captains showing data. But absolutely said they are feeling good but are looking forward to getting actual results. And Bernie reiterated that no one should be declaring a win without the actual results.

ETÀ. It’s very easy to listen to exactly what both Sanders and Weaver said by listening to them.


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