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brooklynite

(94,333 posts)
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:16 PM Feb 2020

Bloomberg Plans to Double Ad Spending After Iowa Caucus Problem

New York Times

COMPTON, Calif. — Michael R. Bloomberg’s presidential campaign moved on Tuesday to exploit the chaotic outcome of the Iowa caucuses, escalating an already enormous campaign of television advertising and publicly making the case that a messy outcome in the early states opened the way for Mr. Bloomberg.

Mr. Bloomberg, the former New York City mayor whose campaign is fueled by a multibillion-dollar personal fortune, conferred with advisers on Tuesday morning about the muddled results in Iowa. Encouraged by the murky outcome, Mr. Bloomberg authorized his campaign team to double his spending on television commercials in every market where he is currently advertising and expand his campaign’s field staff to more than two thousand people, strategists involved in the conversations said.

The Bloomberg campaign has been trying to chart an unprecedented route to the Democratic nomination, skipping the first four contests in February but aggressively contesting the array of larger states that begin voting in March. From the outset, Mr. Bloomberg’s advisers believed the strategy would only have a chance of working if another moderate candidate — most likely former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. — failed to emerge from February with a decisive upper hand in the race.

In an interview on Monday in Compton, Calif., Mr. Bloomberg was unusually blunt about his campaign spending strategy and his intent to seek advantages while his rivals toiled in the four early states, which have relatively few delegates needed to win the nomination.
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Bloomberg Plans to Double Ad Spending After Iowa Caucus Problem (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2020 OP
I hope the other campaigns bought air time in other states jimfields33 Feb 2020 #1
How people don't see a problem with this is beyond me. HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #2
What do you object to? Paid staffing? TV advertising? brooklynite Feb 2020 #4
1 person being able to dump $500m into political advertising to buy his way into office is wrong. HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #5
Advertising doesn't work if the argument isn't compelling. brooklynite Feb 2020 #13
I mean, Trump is our President. HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #15
We are talking about Democrats... brooklynite Feb 2020 #21
Human nature doesn't have a political party. HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #22
"Unless you think the voters are to dense" mitch96 Feb 2020 #29
If you object to one candidate outspending rivals on ads, Sanders outspent his rivals highplainsdem Feb 2020 #6
Sanders raised his money from millions of people willing to contribute whatever they could to... HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #7
I'd love to know how much of the money donated to Sanders is coming from people hoping to have their highplainsdem Feb 2020 #8
How many people donated to Bloomberg's campaign hoping they won't have their wealth taxed too much? Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #19
You know Bloomberg isn't taking contributions, right? brooklynite Feb 2020 #23
His campaign is. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #24
No - it is not. brooklynite Feb 2020 #25
It has one donor. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #26
...who wants to raise taxes on the rich. brooklynite Feb 2020 #27
Plus the dark money from Our Revolution OneMoreCupOfCoffee Feb 2020 #11
Sanders has a pac...and the Senate money is from pacs...so please...If Biden can kick Trump's Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #20
Whoa! That's a ton a money! MerryBlooms Feb 2020 #3
He's apparently worth over $60 BILLION, so it's a drop in the bucket. JudyM Feb 2020 #9
To everyone else, it's a ton a money and going to be tough MerryBlooms Feb 2020 #10
Ooookay Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2020 #12
I like Bloomberg. Wanna hear more about him. IluvPitties Feb 2020 #14
Google the term "Stop and Frisk". jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #18
Spend more in Kentucky and mention Moscow Mitch as Trumputin's lackey. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #16
I've been getting a freaking ton of his ads. gollygee Feb 2020 #17
I was the first to post that he was the winner in Iowa. Blue_true Feb 2020 #28
 

jimfields33

(15,692 posts)
1. I hope the other campaigns bought air time in other states
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:57 PM
Feb 2020

I heard even before this buy, Bloomberg bought a lot of airtime and not much left. I wonder if he’s just buying the rest and the rest won’t be able to do commercials. Not sure how I feel about that.

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HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
2. How people don't see a problem with this is beyond me.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:59 PM
Feb 2020
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brooklynite

(94,333 posts)
4. What do you object to? Paid staffing? TV advertising?
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 03:03 PM
Feb 2020

Support in our political system is measured by how many people vote for you, not how many give you money.

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HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
5. 1 person being able to dump $500m into political advertising to buy his way into office is wrong.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 03:06 PM
Feb 2020

That is how oligarchies are formed.

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brooklynite

(94,333 posts)
13. Advertising doesn't work if the argument isn't compelling.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 10:50 PM
Feb 2020

Unless you think the voters are to dense to see through a fake message.

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HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
15. I mean, Trump is our President.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 10:55 PM
Feb 2020

If that's not proof voters will fall for a fake message I don't know what is.

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brooklynite

(94,333 posts)
21. We are talking about Democrats...
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:13 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
22. Human nature doesn't have a political party.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:14 PM
Feb 2020

People will fall for a fake message if it's the one they want to hear.

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Undecided
 

mitch96

(13,870 posts)
29. "Unless you think the voters are to dense"
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:37 AM
Feb 2020

I keep thinking about the 800 lb gorilla in the room.. and I'll say it.. Is this country ready to elect a Jew as prez??? I don't know if you recall the flap about JFK and him being a Catholic.
"THE COUNTRY WILL BE RUN FROM THE VATICAN!!! "
He can spend all the money in the world and the anti semites will be out in force to block him.
Buttigieg also.. Is this country ready for a Gay Prez???
Me? I don't give a rat's patute just so long as they do a good job and DUMP TRUMP!!
YMMV... Flame suit on..
m

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highplainsdem

(48,910 posts)
6. If you object to one candidate outspending rivals on ads, Sanders outspent his rivals
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 03:08 PM
Feb 2020

the last couple of weeks in Iowa. According to what I read in Politico, anyway.

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HerbChestnut

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7. Sanders raised his money from millions of people willing to contribute whatever they could to...
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 03:12 PM
Feb 2020

...his campaign. His average donation is $18. His ability to spend more than most of his political opponents is a testament to his campaign's organization and his supporters' willingness to donate. Bloomberg can bypass grassroots campaigning and just buy his staff, campaign infrastructure, and advertising by using a small percentage of his multi-billion dollar fortune. Bit of a difference...

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highplainsdem

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8. I'd love to know how much of the money donated to Sanders is coming from people hoping to have their
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 03:23 PM
Feb 2020

student debt wiped out, tax-free.

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Hassin Bin Sober

(26,311 posts)
19. How many people donated to Bloomberg's campaign hoping they won't have their wealth taxed too much?
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:04 PM
Feb 2020
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brooklynite

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23. You know Bloomberg isn't taking contributions, right?
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:15 PM
Feb 2020
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brooklynite

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25. No - it is not.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:18 PM
Feb 2020

Take a look; no fundraising links at all.

https://www.mikebloomberg.com/

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brooklynite

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27. ...who wants to raise taxes on the rich.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:11 AM
Feb 2020

Hope he doesn't have too much influence, right?

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OneMoreCupOfCoffee

(314 posts)
11. Plus the dark money from Our Revolution
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 03:48 PM
Feb 2020

Expenditures that look like clear violations of both campaign finance and Federal tax laws.

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Demsrule86

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20. Sanders has a pac...and the Senate money is from pacs...so please...If Biden can kick Trump's
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 11:07 PM
Feb 2020

ass to the curb...and I think can can, I support him...if he should falter and I don't think he will, then I will choose Bloomberg over Sanders...I want to win the general...there is a reason why pubs are telling their voters to vote for Sanders in multiple primaries. He will lose the general.

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MerryBlooms

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3. Whoa! That's a ton a money!
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 03:00 PM
Feb 2020
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JudyM

(29,192 posts)
9. He's apparently worth over $60 BILLION, so it's a drop in the bucket.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 03:38 PM
Feb 2020

He could easily spend $59 BILLION on his campaign. Positively saturate every pore, every brain cell.

Including neuromarketing experts and tech. That’s my yank about this.

Of course we have to beat trump. I only hope we don’t do more harm to our precious democracy in the process.

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MerryBlooms

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10. To everyone else, it's a ton a money and going to be tough
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 03:43 PM
Feb 2020

to complete with.

Definitely a double edge sword. I'm all for attacking trump and his cronies non stop, but I worry about the pitfalls this precedent sets.

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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,741 posts)
12. Ooookay
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 10:49 PM
Feb 2020

Seems every time I access a YouTube video I get a Bloomberg ad.

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IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
14. I like Bloomberg. Wanna hear more about him.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 10:53 PM
Feb 2020
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jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
18. Google the term "Stop and Frisk".
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 10:58 PM
Feb 2020

That'll tell you all you need to know about him.

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Hermit-The-Prog

(33,254 posts)
16. Spend more in Kentucky and mention Moscow Mitch as Trumputin's lackey.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 10:55 PM
Feb 2020
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gollygee

(22,336 posts)
17. I've been getting a freaking ton of his ads.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 10:57 PM
Feb 2020

I'm not really swayed by political ads though. He isn't among my top choices.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
28. I was the first to post that he was the winner in Iowa.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:13 AM
Feb 2020

Look like his strategy is to drive that perception home.

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