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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,741 posts)
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:24 PM Feb 2020

Is the Iowa caucus dead? Chaos and no results puts Hawkeye state's status in question

Is the Iowa caucus dead?

The nation's first contest in presidential elections, the Iowa caucus has long drawn floods of campaign staff and media attention as political parties try to winnow out their primary field.

"This fiasco means the end of the caucuses as a significant American political event. The rest of the country was already losing patience with Iowa anyway and this cooks Iowa's goose. Frankly, it should," David Yepsen, a famed and former Des Moines Register columnist told Politico.

Monday's Democratic caucus was fraught with chaos as the Iowa Democratic Party delayed releasing official results due to widespread reporting problems amid new rules and a new app.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/is-the-iowa-caucus-dead-chaos-and-no-results-puts-hawkeye-states-status-in-question/ar-BBZDIXB?li=BBnb7Kz

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Is the Iowa caucus dead? Chaos and no results puts Hawkeye state's status in question (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2020 OP
The media is our enemy. Don't join the "sky is falling" hype folks! Things go awry. So we wait KPN Feb 2020 #1
Sorry, this is a big deal. AtheistCrusader Feb 2020 #2
Okay, go ahead and feed the beast then. Have a day of it ... or the week or the entire primary. KPN Feb 2020 #4
You lose when you keep making excuses. n/t MarcA Feb 2020 #7
Yup. I agree. I'm not making excuses am I? KPN Feb 2020 #9
It is HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #5
Hmmmm .... member since February 2nd, 2020. 48 hours yet? KPN Feb 2020 #6
"Cuz media!11" is not a credible argument. HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #11
Feeding the beast is not a rational or effective behavior. KPN Feb 2020 #12
THANKS! jayschool2013 Feb 2020 #3
Under-promise, over-deliver. AtheistCrusader Feb 2020 #8
Hopefully. ArtTownsend Feb 2020 #10
 

KPN

(15,635 posts)
1. The media is our enemy. Don't join the "sky is falling" hype folks! Things go awry. So we wait
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:31 PM
Feb 2020

to get results. Big deal. The important thing is getting the results right ... which it sounds like they are able to do (if we don't blow things up ourselves by feeding the beast) ... and making sure the exact same thing doesn't happen again.

Chill out! Stay positive! Project the positive! Leave Iowa and the Iowa DP alone! Be unified -- it's us against the media and tRump/GOP. We aren't the enemy, nor is the Iowa DP or caucuses.!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
2. Sorry, this is a big deal.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:32 PM
Feb 2020

And no one is going to be chill about it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

KPN

(15,635 posts)
4. Okay, go ahead and feed the beast then. Have a day of it ... or the week or the entire primary.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:35 PM
Feb 2020

Have at it. And people wonder why we lose.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
7. You lose when you keep making excuses. n/t
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:57 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

KPN

(15,635 posts)
9. Yup. I agree. I'm not making excuses am I?
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:58 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
5. It is
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:36 PM
Feb 2020

I’m getting a Kevin Bacon at the end of Animal House vibe from those attempting to make the case (poorly) that it is not.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

KPN

(15,635 posts)
6. Hmmmm .... member since February 2nd, 2020. 48 hours yet?
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:38 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
11. "Cuz media!11" is not a credible argument.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 03:07 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

KPN

(15,635 posts)
12. Feeding the beast is not a rational or effective behavior.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 03:13 PM
Feb 2020

By the way, how do I know you are not just a troll trying to stir things up around here when you've been a member for 48 hrs most? Not saying you are, but there's every reason to wonder.,

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

jayschool2013

(2,311 posts)
3. THANKS!
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:34 PM
Feb 2020

"Chaos"? What utter bullshit.

How will the republic ever survive an 18-hour delay!?!?!?!?

Though, as a journalist, the "media is the enemy" trope is over the top.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
8. Under-promise, over-deliver.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 02:57 PM
Feb 2020

Doing it the other way, is bad for business/credibility, etc.

Edit: aaaaand now the Trump team is exploiting it. Great. Expect it to be mocked in the SOTU tonight. Yay us.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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