IMHO, the big winner out of Iowa is Mike Bloomberg

[stopbush]

He has just DOUBLED his ad buys in the states where he is already doing heavy TV. I wonder how much ad time is even available to the rest of the field before Super Tuesday.

Bloomberg could be at close to 20% in the polls by Super Tuesday, and if he does well in CA, everything changes.

[ArtTownsend]

1. Can't argue with you there.

[Ghost Dog]

26. Currently at 12:1 for President at the (UK) Odds checker here:

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2020/winner

[Scurrilous]

46. Yep. No argument.

The big winner and the big loser have the same amount of delegates. Who could argue with that?

[TheCowsCameHome]

2. FWIW, I like that he goes straight after Trump

and not after the other candidates seeking the nomination.

He focuses on the REAL enemy, and could buy and sell that phony gasbag.

[Upthevibe]

55. TheCowsCameHome - I COMPLETELY agree with you....

IMHO (and it's ONLY my opinion-I don't want to get into any kind of squabble) I don't think he's in it to win. I think he's using running as an excuse/platform to show the ads that focus on the harm dt has done.

[DanTex]

3. Makes sense. Biden's distant fourth opens up the centrist lane.

And none of the other candidates get the momentum and media coverage that usually comes with a victory in Iowa.

[DarthDem]

10. I Don't Think Biden's Finish Means What You Think It Means.

n/t

[LanternWaste]

56. Bernie's anemic showing in a state he was favored to walk away with

opens up even more possibilities for the first-rate candidates like Pete Pete Buttigieg and Joe Biden.

[Zolorp]

4. Yep, his winning move was to not play the strange game of the Iowa Caucus.

Might be time t jump on board the Bloomberg train.

He really triggers Trump because he is richer and a much better businessman than Trump.

[bdamomma]

5. Just be the devils advocate with this question

Could Bloomberg be the Jill Stein, and tRump will be re-elected again?

just posting some articles here:

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/481067-trump-bloomberg-getting-the-dnc-to-rig-the-election-against-sanders

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/02/mike-bloomberg-democratic-contested-convention/605956/


https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/miriamelder/mike-bloomberg-jewish-voters-trump

[stopbush]

7. No. He's too rich and personally successful to pull a Jill Stein.

Plus, he has been supporting Ds with cash. He’s a big reason for2018’s blue wave.

But mostly, unlike Stein, he will not run as a third-party candidate if he fails to get the D nomination.

[bdamomma]

11. Just saying

I am still an undecided, but what if, they (DNC) does not Bernie to get in again, putting the screws to him again. And using Bloomberg Just saying.

Don't shoot me please.

[Ghost Dog]

27. I think that is the situation. Nt

[I_M_Blue_2]

32. Bloomberg is not a tool of the DNC

He sees an opportunity in a weak field, and he decided to go for it. He is not the candidate of the DNC or the Democratic establishment, he is his own man.

[Autumn]

13. He supports R's with that cash of his too.

[stopbush]

15. And Sanders only puts a D next to his name when he's running for POTUS.

Your point?

[Autumn]

17. I responded to your praise of Bloom spending money on Dems with a simple fact you left out

stopbush (21,261 posts)

7. No. He's too rich and personally successful to pull a Jill Stein.

Plus, he has been supporting Ds with cash. He’s a big reason for2018’s blue wave.

But mostly, unlike Stein, he will not run as a third-party candidate if he fails to get the D nomination.
That's my point.

My response was

Autumn (37,501 posts)

13. He supports R's with that cash of his too.

And I'll make another point.Bernie puts a D next to his name when he's running for POTUS. With the blessing of the Democratic party.

Got a problem? Take it up with them.

[TheRealNorth]

21. You might as well vote for Mitt Romney

That's all I am going to say about Mike Bloomberg.

[I_M_Blue_2]

33. As a supporter of Bernie

you should know that sometimes you support the man/woman not the party.

[Autumn]

34. As a dDemocrat I know I won't support anyone in a primary who donates to Republicans

over a Democrat. I don't even have to support Bernie to know that.

[Blue_true]

42. No. His track record supporting democrats in 2016 and onward

is very strong. He is no Jill Stein. I am to the left of him by a bit, but I wouldn't mind if he won the nomination. So far, him and Buttigieg are running the smartest campaigns.

[democratisphere]

6. Iowa has already become irrelevant.

Nevada is apparently using the same failed vote processing app.

[stopbush]

8. NV just dropped that app.

[democratisphere]

9. That was fast!

Best news all day!

[Autumn]

12. And what's the next step for Bloom in the GE?

[stopbush]

16. Winning delegates.

Every misstep or under performance by a moderate like Biden opens the door wider and wider for Bloomberg.

[Autumn]

19. You actually think Bloom could win the GE?

[stopbush]

20. Yes.

I don’t believe Sanders could win.

[TheRealNorth]

23. Bloomberg will drive away too many Sanders and Warren voters

He will divide and destroy the Democratic Party even if he wins.

[stopbush]

24. That's silly.

Besides, Bloomberg will be a safe vote for millions of Rs and Is who voted for tRump in 2016 but want a moderate alternative for 2020. Those voters will never vote for Sanders. Maybe Warren, but not Sanders.

[I_M_Blue_2]

35. You think Democrats will vote for Trump

rather than Bloomberg. I do not think so.

[Blue_true]

43. Yes, very much so if he gets there.

I don't expect him to run third party, he wants Trump out of office too badly.

[underthematrix]

14. Bloomberg is a REAL billionaire. He's of Russian ancestry and Jewish.

I love that part because it just tickles me to no end. He has great leaderships skills and won election three times in one of the most diverse states in the Union. He has been a MAJOR contributor to My Brother's Keeper. He doesn't have an ego problem. He's honest even telling us what we don't want to hear. The rich, the middle and the poor like him. We could all sleep again.

He's my back-up plan if Biden who i still fully support fizzles.

This election is not about how I feel. It's about saving our Republic which has been almost completely destroyed.

We need to keep the House and win back the senate so we can impeach every thug #TraitorTrump put on the federal bench. We need more gov ships so even Trumpsters can get access to affordable healthcare. I believe he will add the public option and we can only get that if we have a DEMOCRATIC Congress and Executive Branch and a sane judiciary.

I'm invested in saving our democracy, the rule of law, our Constitution, our Republic. as much as I love Vice President Biden, I will go with the candidate best positioned to overwhelmingly BEAT back #TraitorTrump. This is not a reality show where you vote someone off the island. This is about getting the government we say we want. I'm not attached to a person, I'm attached to an idea called American democracy. that's what I'm fighting for and will vote for.

[renate]

25. Bloomberg seems like the best person to put up a fight--a dirty fight--against Trump

I was kind of pissed when he got into the race, because in no way is he my favorite candidate.

But when I think of him running against Trump, I feel... safer than when I imagine even my top choice going up against him. She's smarter, quicker, and better than him (plus she's not insane), and her policies are better for this country than his (obviously), but people seem to want not a battle of intellects but a battle of personalities. And Bloomberg's personality is what we need to beat Trump. I hate to say it, but I'm starting to think that Bloomberg may be the thin edge of the wedge that we need to get into the door and from there to bring in excellent people (starting with, dare I dream, Warren, Klobuchar, Harris, or Abrams as VP)--he's not our favorite, but he's necessary.

[bdamomma]

30. so another

white guy with money is being considered. So how does that make sense. Voting against our best interest.

[I_M_Blue_2]

37. He can defeat Trump, that is all I need

[stopbush]

39. Except for Mayor Pete, all the remaining candidates have money.

And except for Andrew Yang (who has lots of money), all the candidates are white.

How does one determine our collective “best interest” without considering that reality?

[underthematrix]

40. Our BEST interest is to win.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

52. Our best interest at this point is getting rid of Trump.

I'm not a big fan of Bloomberg but if it looks like he can take down Trump I'll be happy to vote for him.

[I_M_Blue_2]

36. + 1000 N/T

[Blue_true]

44. +1,000,000%. nt

[MineralMan]

18. Could be! People are going to be very frustrated with the premature gloating

and other posturing around the Iowa debacle. That might well result in a shift to the one person who is not entangled in it.

I expect Bloomberg's polling numbers to go up, and quickly. The rest of the candidates need to calm down and let Iowa sort its crap out and release the entire results when they have them. I guarantee that Bloomberg will be just sitting and watching the others bicker and whine about this. Bloomberg will benefit greatly from it all.

[redqueen]

22. His rise may be matched with a lot of voters checking out.

This election is looking worse and worse.

[bdamomma]

31. so we have to vote

in our Primaries. Bloomberg could be our Tulsi.

[I_M_Blue_2]

38. Are you for or against Trump, that is what this election is about

[redqueen]

45. Have you seen this?

Link to tweet

?s=19

[I_M_Blue_2]

48. Yes, That is why we need Bloomberg

He is our strongest candidate. He scares nobody

[redqueen]

49. A billionaire owner of a major media outlet with a history of 'attacking freedom'.

He may make good attack ads but he is far, FAR from our strongest candidate imo.

[highplainsdem]

28. Plouffe on MSNBC saying otherwise, saying Bloomberg would have preferred Sanders to do better

and Buttigieg to do worse. Bloomberg's plan to be the moderate Democrat stopping Sanders doesn't work as well with this strong showing by Buttigieg.

[highplainsdem]

29. Plouffe on MSNBC saying otherwise, saying Bloomberg would have preferred Sanders to do better

and Buttigieg to do worse. Bloomberg's plan to be the moderate Democrat stopping Sanders doesn't work as well with this strong showing by Buttigieg.

[BlueIdaho]

53. I think that when we hit more ethnically diverse states

Both Bernie and Pete will have significant problems. Both Iowa and New Hampshire are terrible picks for “First in the nation” status since they don’t look that much like the rest of America.

[Blue_true]

41. So far he has run a very strategic campaign.

His brutal hits on Trump are starting to excite democrats who had written his late entry off. If Joe stumbles early on, expect his support to shift to Bloomberg.

[gollygee]

47. I can't imagine getting twice as many of his ads

I can't even tell you how many of his ads I see every day. I lose count. They're everywhere.

[Generic Brad]

50. His ads turn me off

More of the same turns me off more.

[comradebillyboy]

51. I'm going to go with Pete as the big winner. Kudos to Pete

and his campaign workers. They did an amazing job.

[bamagal62]

54. All i can say is whomever

rises to the top will be my candidate. At this point I don't care who it is.