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scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 05:54 PM Feb 2020

Upstate SC GOP officials openly talking about ratf***ing the SC primary





They are practically shouting from the rooftops who they want to face Trump.
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Upstate SC GOP officials openly talking about ratf***ing the SC primary (Original Post) scheming daemons Feb 2020 OP
That's the problem with OPEN primaries. I don't want republicans choosing our candidate. George II Feb 2020 #1
Yep and he won't do a thing to stop that from happening either. redstatebluegirl Feb 2020 #2
What is Bernie supposed to do? TheRealNorth Feb 2020 #8
Well, the junior senator from VT did tell Ari Melber tishaLA Feb 2020 #3
That's not quite what ratfucking is Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #4
Unless the problems with the app were intentional, the term doesn't apply. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #6
Get over it. Zolorp Feb 2020 #7
Nobody mentioned conspiracy theories Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #9
Especially when the IDP was warned about the app in mid Jan and still went with it. Autumn Feb 2020 #13
Once every four years BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #5
At the end of the day, if people vote cross party in open primaries, it is usually because they Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #10
? BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #11
Yes. And I thought the subject line was longer... Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #12
No worries! BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #14
Of course they are. Cha Feb 2020 #15
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
1. That's the problem with OPEN primaries. I don't want republicans choosing our candidate.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 05:57 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

redstatebluegirl

(12,854 posts)
2. Yep and he won't do a thing to stop that from happening either.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 05:57 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TheRealNorth

(9,647 posts)
8. What is Bernie supposed to do?
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 06:11 PM
Feb 2020

He doesn't run the SC Primaries. I am getting sick of the supporters of a certain candidate trying to blame Bernie and progressive democrats for shit the that the media and Republicans do.

From what I have seen the past few weeks, the Bernie Bros ain't the problem when it comes to creating divisions in the party. If the moderates just coalesced around a single candidate, Bernie wouldn't even be an issue.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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tishaLA

(14,792 posts)
3. Well, the junior senator from VT did tell Ari Melber
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 06:04 PM
Feb 2020

"of course we knew" Russians were supporting his campaign during the Democratic primaries in 2016 and his campaign said and did nothing.

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Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
4. That's not quite what ratfucking is
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 06:05 PM
Feb 2020

Ratfucking is using an untested app, with deficient training, and having an ill apportioned amount of resources to account for easily anticipated and normal activities like calling in results. It isn't an intentional ratfucking, but it certainly ratfucked the hell out of us.

What is being described in the OP is simply the use of democracy to achieve a goal. If you don't like it, get more people to vote for somebody else or convince those Republicans to vote for somebody else. That's what democracy is.

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TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
6. Unless the problems with the app were intentional, the term doesn't apply.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 06:09 PM
Feb 2020

An intentional act is inherent in the concept.

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Zolorp

(1,115 posts)
7. Get over it.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 06:11 PM
Feb 2020

It was human error on a laughable scale, not some nefarious conspiracy theory nonsense.

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Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
9. Nobody mentioned conspiracy theories
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 06:13 PM
Feb 2020

But to say that nobody would anticipate this is a gross level of incompetence of enormous proportions.

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Autumn

(49,001 posts)
13. Especially when the IDP was warned about the app in mid Jan and still went with it.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 06:21 PM
Feb 2020
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BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
5. Once every four years
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 06:06 PM
Feb 2020

Republicans shout about crossing the line and voting in the Democratic primaries. But history and statistics prove they never show up in the numbers necessary to have an impact. Of course the best solution is - closed primaries - but that’s a matter for state legislatures. They decide.

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Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
10. At the end of the day, if people vote cross party in open primaries, it is usually because they
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 06:15 PM
Feb 2020

Felt strongly about a candidate. Not always, but it is a considerable enough effort to deter from actual ratfuckery.

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BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
11. ?
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 06:17 PM
Feb 2020

Did a typo sneak in there? bnb?

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Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
12. Yes. And I thought the subject line was longer...
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 06:19 PM
Feb 2020


My autocorrect on my phone adds weird things to my sentences at times.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
14. No worries!
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 06:25 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(320,161 posts)
15. Of course they are.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 08:06 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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