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ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 08:09 PM Feb 2020

All the sturm und drang about primary turnout and undecideds

Read an article on Politico about concern for the Iowa caucus turnout numbers. They were in line with 2016. We need to be worried because this signals a lack of enthusiasm...
Bullshit. I don't have any data to back this up but most of the people that I talk to are fine with whoever we end up nominating. There's a reason why not a single candidate has cracked 40 percent in a poll yet. If I'm not personally invested in which candidate ends up winning am I going to participate in a shitshow like the caucus yesterday?
I supported Bernie in 2016 very vocally. I still believe that many of the issues he brought to the forefront are valid. But I recognize that there is a significant portion of the Democratic-leaning electorate that now loathes him...fair or not. For that reason I was hoping he would not run again. But he did and here we are. I was also hoping that Joe Biden would not run. But he is and here we are. Nevertheless I would vote for either one of them without a second thought because Merrick Garland, Brett Kavanaugh, Neil Gorusch, and Ruther Bader Ginsburg. The same reason I voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016. Stop the bullshit infighting please. The majority of us are just waiting for a nominee to get behind.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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All the sturm und drang about primary turnout and undecideds (Original Post) ibegurpard Feb 2020 OP
It's all about the SCOTUS. We must win. Period. End of story. OrlandoDem2 Feb 2020 #1
Ruth Bader Ginsburg ibegurpard Feb 2020 #2
She might last 2 more to 2022 if Trump wins and we don't take the Senate. OrlandoDem2 Feb 2020 #3
I wouldn't bet on that ibegurpard Feb 2020 #4
 

OrlandoDem2

(2,065 posts)
1. It's all about the SCOTUS. We must win. Period. End of story.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 08:29 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
2. Ruth Bader Ginsburg
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 08:32 PM
Feb 2020

will not last another 4 years. Bank on that.
I had serious problems with both Bill Clinton and Barack Obama on various fronts. But their legacy on the Supreme Court gave us some breathing room to work out our differences on policy issues.
Anything else is fighting over window dressing while Republicans are hacking away at the house foundations.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

OrlandoDem2

(2,065 posts)
3. She might last 2 more to 2022 if Trump wins and we don't take the Senate.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 08:50 PM
Feb 2020

We need to take the Senate but that’ll be tough.

We must win 5 seats because we will probably lose Alabama. We can win ME, AZ, NC, CO and maybe IA.

However, I think by 2022 we will definitely take the Senate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
4. I wouldn't bet on that
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 09:09 PM
Feb 2020

We MUST win the presidency or Senate or both this year

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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