So is Bloomberg the Biden alternate

[zipplewrath]

I've been wondering if Biden's campaign fails, do the BOG/Obama supporters choose Bloomberg? His policies and approaches seem closer to Obama than anyone else. Yeah, he doesn't have his eloquence, nor Michelle and the kids. But really, other than 64 oz sodas, it would seem that he is the kind of leader that Obama supporters would like.

[Dem4Life1102]

2. I'm an Obama supporter

and I’d vote for Gabbard before Bloomberg. And I detest Gabbard.

[MerryBlooms]

18. A Russian asset before Bloomberg.

JPR sends their regards.

[Dem4Life1102]

19. Yes

Bloomberg is 100 times worse than Gabbard.

[MerryBlooms]

43. Sorry about my snark, it was uncalled for.

I'm a vote blue no matte who, gal, so if push cam to shove, I'd also vote for Gabbard. Again, sorry for the snark, it was nasty and uncalled for.

[dem4decades]

33. Well i'm an Obama supporter and I'd vote for Bloomberg over Gabbard.

So i guess it's a wash.

[zipplewrath]

49. Why

Really. What do you think they would achieve over the other candidates?

[obamanut2012]

58. lulz

[Scurrilous]

3. Yawn. Someone already did this.

[Scurrilous]

4. Have you tried - 'It's not a good look?"

[Cha]

6. lol

[Scurrilous]

11. Trying to be helpful with subject matter.

I liked 'not a good look.' Wish to see it some more.

[Cha]

17. ..

[calguy]

5. No way will I count Biden out at this early in the process

I will say this. I'm supporting who I think can beat trump in November. I look at Pete, Bernie, and Liz and I see three people who cannot beat trump. I'll leave it at that.

[Scurrilous]

15. Considering this whole clusterfuck is over how to divide 2.5789473684211% of the delegates, yes.

Too early for the frontrunner to quit. Look at Bernie in 2016...he stayed in until the convention. Even though he lost.

[RestoreAmerica2020]

45. Ha...clever quip! Funny too.

[Scurrilous]

46. Thanks.

[Cha]

50. Well said!

[onetexan]

55. K&R

[Yurovsky]

25. How old were you in 1988?

The Biden I see now doesn’t seem much more inspiring than the one I saw then (I was a supporter of the Rev. Jesse Jackson). I don’t think he’s a bad person and he’s certainly been a loyal Democrat for his entire political career (now entering its 6th decade). I just don’t see the excitement surrounding his campaign that I witnessed around President Clinton or President Obama. Granted, they were amazing stump politicians. And I give Joe Biden credit for getting things done (his forte in the Senate). But is it enough?

I have my doubts.

[zipplewrath]

29. 28

And yeah, I was a bit disappointed when Obama chose him. Besides all the times he had lost on the national level, he was older than Obama. Quite honestly, a VP choice is about the hope of continuing after ones presidency. I thought that he was a bit "long in the tooth" for that role.

I do wonder if Buttigieg just solidified his qualifications for #2 on the ticket regardless of how things come out going forward.

[Yurovsky]

36. Mayor Pete is running hard...

Smart guy. I’d like to see more in terms of results as mayor (or any other office). But he’s certainly putting in the work to be a VP choice or at least a cabinet appointee.

Who knows, he might even win it...

[ancianita]

38. The whole bias that media and Dems put on themselves: "Is anything less than perfect ever enough?"

[Scurrilous]

47. Bernie is Mr. Excitement.

He's been saying that since the '70s when he ran for Senator and Governor and lost 5 times. He's the exciting one who is going to lead the revolution. Biden is sleepy Joe. I would show a pic of the guy who excited people the most in the 20th century, but Godwin's Law is sacrosanct around here.

[Scurrilous]

7. Here's the other variant: it's good too.

I don't understand why Buttigieg isn't the centrist replacement for Biden instead of Bloomberg derp blurgle

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=475327

[LuvLoogie]

8. Joe, Amy, Pete, Liz, Mike...

I think if Bernie wins the nomination, there's a 50/50 chance he'll decline it.

[CentralMass]

12. Sure.

[msongs]

9. when did obama/biden endorse and implement stop and frisk. I missed that one nt

[zipplewrath]

14. Yeah, I meant to include that one too

Although Obama famously switched quickly on the health care mandate. He also chose to execute Bush's SOFA in Iraq despite objecting so much to Bush's war. I'm not sure how he would have dealt with stop and frisk if he had been Mayor. Bloomberg didn't invent it.

[RandySF]

10. If Joe implodes, I'm looking at Warren and Bloomberg

[CousinIT]

13. Klobuchar or Buttigieg

Those would be my "Biden alternates".

[Scurrilous]

16. Have you tried Biden secretly a Bosnian?

Link to tweet

[George II]

20. No. Why is Biden being written off already because he didn't win in Iowa? Everyone admits....

....that Iowa isn't representative of the US. Their largest city has barely 200,000 people - Des Moines is the 101st largest in the country, and the state is 90+ % white. When all is said and done, even if Biden does finish 4th, he'll be no more than about five or six delegates behind the leader.

New Hampshire is even worse - half the population of Iowa, even whiter, and their largest city, Manchester, has only 130,000 people, and is next door to the home state of both Sanders and Warren. Things may change, but Biden is still in second place and Sanders has only one-quarter of the voters in the polls.

No, Biden isn't finished, he's just getting started. By midnight on Super Tuesday he'll have opened a decent lead and will widen it even further a week later.

[zipplewrath]

24. Not so much written off

It's more a case of "where will they go" if Biden can't sustain his campaign through New Hampshire, and ultimately South Carolina.

[George II]

28. He most likely will come out of NH behind by only about 10 delegates, roughly what his lead is in SC

[RazBerryBeret]

30. Most News Sources are reporting

that his campaign is in trouble financially. Don't know if that's accurate, but that's what they're reporting...

[ancianita]

21. From what I know of Obama supporters, he's not at all who they'd support.

I'm a full donor of Obama, and don't see him as close to Obama at all.

[zipplewrath]

23. Policy wise

In terms of personality, they aren't even close. God knows he doesn't have Obama's eloquence or presence. But his policies are very close to Bloomberg's, as well as Obama's penchant for "reaching across the aisle". Bloomberg is a bit to the right of Eisenhower, just as Obama claimed to be.

[ancianita]

31. Can't agree.

A bit to the right of Eisenhower is no ringing endorsement across centuries, from wars to the digital age.

[zipplewrath]

37. But it's where Obama claimed to sit

"The truth of the matter is that my policies are so mainstream that if I had set the same policies that I had back in the 1980s, I would be considered a moderate Republican," he told Noticias Univision 23 in a White House interview.

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/272957-obama-says-his-economic-policies-so-mainstream-hed-be-seen-as-moderate-republican-in-1980s

[ancianita]

40. Doesn't follow that Obama would endorse him. Obama endorses Biden.

[zipplewrath]

41. Well not yet

Obama isn't going to undercut Biden. If Biden drops out, I'm dubious Obama will jump in to endorse anyone, but yeah, I also don't see him jumping on the Bloomberg wagon. Probably a trust issue if nothing else.

[ancianita]

44. Biden's in it to the end. With more primary wins,money, endorsements to get to the convention.

Trust is everything.

No more out of touch billionaires.

[Scurrilous]

22. If this was Twitter people would be tweeting 'ratioed' at you now. That place is mean.

[zipplewrath]

26. Uh, okay

Not sure why I'd care about that population.

[ancianita]

27. Bloomberg: "To reduce the deficit we must cut entitlements"

To me,
-- he's just another billionaire REBOUND OFFER to those uneasy about "electability" of other candidates. -- his billions don't at all guarantee that he can win a war of words, or debate, against Trump.
-- he is a spoiler who campaigns to suck votes away from other, better qualified Democratic candidates.

-- his ad buys of populist messages are dragged down by his stances on Social Security and opposition to the tax on wealth and promotion of unregulated corporations
-- I don't trust that he'd ever try to scale up any of his NYC accomplishments for the rest of the country -- his uneven approval by New Yorkers points to the same polling he'd get when handling the nation's problems

-- stop and frisk
-- soda pop tax
-- wanting tolls on all NYC bridges

-- bribing the City Council to be allowed a third term
-- he's a corporate animal.
-- Bloomberg is stiff, doesn't speak well in crowds except from script. He doesn't have to be warm and fuzzy, but in front of voters, he fails in the listening department.

-- he's not worth trusting if we've never seen him do rallies or even one town hall.
-- 1990s: Three sexual harassment lawsuits were filed against him

I don't see Bloomberg being any different from 99% of out of touch billionaires who show benign indifference to Americans.

No thanks. Americans need to get control of their country, its money, its governance, and rule of law. What Bloomberg hasn't done is evidence that he won't help them. My opinion.

If he's nominated, I'll vote for him. But until he's the party's choice, mine is elsewhere.

[zipplewrath]

32. Our Romney

I tend to agree with your assessment, and I'm not a huge Obama fan. But Bloomberg comes off to me as a Romney kinda candidate that is more interested in getting elected and then serving the 1% than anything else.

[ancianita]

34. So you've just answered your own question in the OP. Obama and Biden would answer "No."

[zipplewrath]

39. I suspect you're correct

Despite his stated policies, and his track record, he's lacking "authenticity", just as Romney did.

[Laelth]

56. Thank you for that unvarnished assessment. n/t

-Laelth

[33taw]

35. Caucuses discriminate against the disabled, the elderly, and parents of you children.

Nobody is out of this race.

[apcalc]

42. No. Biden is the Biden alternate.

[Renew Deal]

48. Bloomberg or Buttigieg

Just depends on how you look at things

[jcgoldie]

51. 64 oz soda is a straw man

Bloomberg's massive black eye is stop and frisk.

[Garrett78]

52. Some may want to overlook the racism and misogyny, but many will not.

If Bloomberg buys the nomination, it will alienate millions and do our party damage for many years to come. Turnout, once his history becomes more well-known, will be greatly suppressed. We will lose in more ways than one.

[wnylib]

53. Looks more like it will be Buttigieg.

The other leading moderate is Klobuchar. What a mouthful if they form the ticket. Maybe we could call them Buttichar.

[musicblind]

54. I guess, but he shouldn't be.

Biden is far superior to Bloomberg and has much more experience.

[ancianita]

57. Agree. In governing AND personnel choices for THIS hollowed out government, we need expertise back

Just to reset this government would require thousands returning. There is no one with the body of expertise like Obama's and Biden's.

Bloomberg wouldn't know where to start except with his corporate buddies.

Obama, Carter, et. al., will help ANY new president. As evidenced by his past statements and positions about Democratic governing goals at the national level (no "entitlements," no wealth tax) Bloomberg might not even listen.

That's because not all new presidents could have the judgment about a) working with professional service people AND b) Congress that Joe has. I'll take slips of the tongue any day over slips on morality.

This is primary season, so remember this is just my opinion.