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Alhena

(3,030 posts)
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:13 AM Feb 2020

Does Buttigieg's strong showing make a first ballot win for Sanders less likely?

Democratic Party rules allow superdelegates to vote on the second ballot at the convention, and there's no mystery about whether many of them would prefer Biden/Buttigieg/Warren or Sanders. That pretty much means that Sanders has to win on the first ballot of the convention- does Buttigieg's strong showing make that less likely?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Does Buttigieg's strong showing make a first ballot win for Sanders less likely? (Original Post) Alhena Feb 2020 OP
No, it was never likely in the first place. George II Feb 2020 #1
I think it's less likely than if Bernie had outright won Iowa. HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #2
Sanders has little support from POC either. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #5
More than Pete. HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author RandySF Feb 2020 #3
I can see more people looking out my window than voted in Iowa lol nt msongs Feb 2020 #4
A first ballot win was never in the cards for Sanders. comradebillyboy Feb 2020 #7
Let's wait a month and have this conversation again. Algernon Moncrieff Feb 2020 #8
Was never going to happen. But Pete's win seals the deal. OneMoreCupOfCoffee Feb 2020 #9
Joe needed to not come 4th, and especially not get beaten by another moderate. Kentonio Feb 2020 #10
IA was Bernie's to walk away with. He dropped the ball. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #12
You are putting the cart way before the horse. Blue_true Feb 2020 #11
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
1. No, it was never likely in the first place.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:15 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
2. I think it's less likely than if Bernie had outright won Iowa.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:15 AM
Feb 2020

But Buttigieg doesn't have much support outside of the first two states, particularly among PoC. I really have no idea how this thing is going to turn out.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
5. Sanders has little support from POC either.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:26 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
6. More than Pete.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:30 AM
Feb 2020

Bernie also does very well with Latinos, and with Biden's campaign on the ropes African Americans may need to find someone else to support soon.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to Alhena (Original post)

 

msongs

(67,405 posts)
4. I can see more people looking out my window than voted in Iowa lol nt
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:17 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

comradebillyboy

(10,147 posts)
7. A first ballot win was never in the cards for Sanders.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 01:05 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
8. Let's wait a month and have this conversation again.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 01:50 AM
Feb 2020

Too soon to draw any conclusions.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

OneMoreCupOfCoffee

(314 posts)
9. Was never going to happen. But Pete's win seals the deal.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 03:29 AM
Feb 2020

Sanders needed a massive win in Iowa to sustain the narrative that he had a shot.

And that did not happen.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
10. Joe needed to not come 4th, and especially not get beaten by another moderate.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 06:51 AM
Feb 2020

But hey, primary season can throw up many surprises.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
12. IA was Bernie's to walk away with. He dropped the ball.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:33 PM
Feb 2020

"But hey, primary season can throw up many surprises..."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
11. You are putting the cart way before the horse.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 10:33 AM
Feb 2020

99.1+% of the primary is still to be contested, including in many places where Sanders and Buttegieg are very weak.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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