Joe should drop out and endorse mayor Pete.

[redgreenandblue]

If the goal, above all else, is to both prevent a Sanders nomination and defeat Trump, that would be the thing to do.

I know this isn't how things play out in the real world, but it is what it is.

[pnwmom]

1. Better yet, someone just as smart with significant experience. Elizabeth Warren or Amy Klobuchar. nt

[still_one]

6. Based on Iowa, the Biden, klobaucher, Mayor Pete block got more votes than the

Sanders Warren block, significantly more

If one believes Iowa is a bellwether, than that would tend to imply that our best chance to win the GE should be one of the candidates in the Mayor Pete, Klobaucher, Biden block

I think if we choose a candidate too far left, it will be a very steep hill to climb

That being said, saying a candidate should or should not drop out based on the sham that is the Iowa caucus, which discriminates against those with mobility issues, and those who cannot spend hours in a caucus hall, along with the fact that people badger each other to try to change their vote on the second round of voting puts way too much weighting on the Iowa caucus

In fact the order of states for the first primaries-should NOT be Iowa or N.H. in my view

If Sanders or Biden we’re not in the race, I think Harris would still be a candidate

[pnwmom]

7. I don't think of Warren as in the same "block" as Bernie.

She is much more flexible and she's already said that she'd take Medicare for All one step at a time. Plus, she's not anti-DNC.

I strongly agree with you that the results of the sham caucus in Iowa shouldn't affect anyone's standing. We had 13 caucuses last time. We'll have six this time. Next time I hope we have zero.

[krissey]

8. I agree that Warren is not in the same block. Thanks for the information

about the caucuses. I knew we had lost some from 2016. I was wondering what the number of caucus for this election.

[pnwmom]

10. WA was a caucus state till 2016. I am so glad we finally switched to a primary. nt

[krissey]

11. 2016 said everything with Sanders winning the caucus but then the second vote Hillary took it.

Says something about how unrepresentative a caucus is to the people voting who they want.

[pnwmom]

13. Right.. Sanders won the caucuses by a lot, but Hillary beat him in the primaries --

with a lot more voters.

It was so frustrating.

[still_one]

12. I know you don't, and neither do I, but I believe the perception of that is there

and would be difficult for her to overcome

I added in my previous post if Biden or Sanders were not candidates, I think Harris would still be in the race, and very competitive

I sure hope we have a candidate with sufficient delegates by the convention, and I will make no bones about it, I hope it isn’t Sanders, because I believe if it is, we will get slaughtered in the GE

[pnwmom]

14. I agree that Sanders would be a weak candidate in the general. What do you think

about Kamala as VP?

[still_one]

16. I like It very much. I am sorry she is still not in the race.

[pnwmom]

21. Me, too. I hope she ends up on the ticket. n/t

[still_one]

22. +++

[helpisontheway]

27. She said that after her poll numbers started dropping. Nt

[pnwmom]

30. Link, please. n/t

[helpisontheway]

35. Link for what? She announced that after they went after her in that debate about MFA

She came out with numbers to pay for it and said it would be gradual. It was too late because her poll numbers had already dropped. And she never recovered.

[blm]

58. Which block do you have for Warren's accountable capitalism? Put me

down as a capitalist who believes it should be accountable and should work for all.

[still_one]

62. If she can get that message out, i.e. "accountable capitalism" it is a winning message, however, I

may be wrong, but that is not how I see it is getting framed by the media

NH will be interesting, and who gets second.

[blm]

67. But don't further the media lie

Why feed into it and then spread it here or anywhere?

[thesquanderer]

66. re: "the Biden, klobaucher, Mayor Pete block got more votes than the Sanders Warren block"

That changes when you factor Yang into it. See...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287475794

[comradebillyboy]

68. We don't vote for blocs we vote for individual candidates.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

33. I would go with Elizabeth between those two, who is by far the smartest candidate ever.

But, of all the candidates, Joe should endorse Bernie, who is the one with the best shot at defeating the Shitstain-in-Chief.


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[krissey]

2. A bit of tongue in cheek, right?

[smoke107]

3. How much did Pete spend in Iowa for 10 delegates ?

Curious .......... Think he can win anything in Texas ?

[Iamaartist]

32. How much is right Dont trust The app

Pete all others where behind...except Sanders in Iowa. Then Pete became front runner I question that.. my opinion

[TwilightZone]

46. Sanders could still win the raw vote, but it doesn't matter.

Pete will probably win the delegate count based on how they are distributed.

Polls don't gauge where non-viables go. If Pete picked up a lot of secondary voters after the first count, all he had to be after the first vote was within striking distance and he could overtake Sanders in some districts.

Pete was also ahead in one of the latest polls (DBR).

The result probably isn't as surprising as it might appear.

[Sloumeau]

4. So Biden, the guy with the highest African American support,

should drop out and endorse the guy who almost no African American wants to vote for? And this is after we all know how critical African American support would be in the General Election? Is this what you are saying?

[still_one]

5. Based on the discriminatory caucus of Iowa, which discriminates against those with mobility

issues, and those who cannot spend several hours in a caucus hall.

That makes no sense at all

[Cha]

15. Prescisely. Iowa's lack of

diversity does not represent America.. nor do its caucuses due to many being left out of the process.

Actually, who do these caucuses represent?

[still_one]

18. You are right. It would be nice if they change the primary order of which states hold their

first primary, but I don’t see that happening anytime soon either

[onetexan]

40. Agree. The poster sure has alot of hubris to be calling for Biden to drop out

Nobody commands the AA, Rustbelt, SC, GA and FL votes as Biden does. IA was a fiasco and much too soon - we have to wait and see.

GM Cha

[Cha]

69. Well said, onetexan!

Aloha

[DarthDem]

9. Lol

Call me crazy but I think he should probably wait for the results from more than one (screwed up) state caucus.

[oasis]

17. Joe ain't close to dropping out, nor should he.

No way!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

34. -1

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[oasis]

43. Biden rivals will get their dues 🎷"PalMEtTosTaTebLuEs".🎸🎹

..... Feb. 29th South Carolina.

[radius777]

19. SC and NV will tell us about Biden's viability

There are two basic lanes, the left lane (Sanders/Warren) and the moderate lane (Biden/Pete).

As I see it, Warren has no chance - she had to win IA and NH (nearby state) to knock Bernie out of the left lane.

Biden is underperforming and his national polls are dropping. If his firewall in the South doesn't hold - then Uncle Joe is done and he needs to drop out and endorse Pete, to save us from Sanders who would get crushed in the GE and bring down the party with him.

[duforsure]

24. I agree

And think Joe has to deliver soon or be watching more donors leave him, which they probably already are. Joe makes to many mistakes with speaking, policies , and his star is fading fast from certain age groups running from him now, and will only speed up his downfall. Warren has to also show better or she'll have zero chances of winning, but she is very capable of overtaking both Bernie and Pete. Her and Mayor Pete are the smartest , and very good at speaking, and I think are the ones to watch. Warren needs to simplify her message better , and run more ads showing how corrupt trump is.

[IluvPitties]

20. Why don't ypu tell Amy to drop first?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

45. Because Amy is more viable than Joe, WHO WAS VP FOR 8 YEARS, & she STILL placed 5th just behind him!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[IluvPitties]

65. That's not being more viable.

She came in 5th. He came in 4th. Simple.

[blue-wave]

23. Ha! Surely you jest!!

Let's revisit this topic in a few more months.

[mrs_p]

25. Based on one caucus

That is highly unrepresentative of the party?

[hlthe2b]

26. Exactly.... How ludicrous

[tirebiter]

28. Iowa gave us nothing but caucasian caucuses

I wanna know who the noncaucasians prefer

[stonecutter357]

29. lol !

[FloridaBlues]

31. Sorry alittle soon for Biden to drop out.

No one knows how Mayor Pete will do going into other states
What's that old saying don't count your chickens before they hatch.

[MFM008]

36. To early

Iowa was such a screw up
Lets see how Biden does by Super Tuesday.

[LanternWaste]

37. A weird and dramatic over-reaction you've got going on...

And yeah... it most certainly is what it is.

[R B Garr]

38. Joe should stay in the race until the end no matter the results,

then go the convention and sulk and claim everything is rigged. Sound familiar?

[honest.abe]

39. Lets see how Mayor Pete does in NV and SC.

I doubt he does well in either one.

[treestar]

41. There are 56 contests left

why should anyone drop out because of the first?

[LongtimeAZDem]

42. Nonsense

[TwilightZone]

44. Pete is at 6.5% nationally.

Doing what you suggest wouldn't make any sense. There isn't any evidence (yet) that Buttigieg has enough widespread appeal, particularly in voting blocs that are the basis of the party, like AA voters. That could change, but it would have to change pretty much immediately.

If we're going to entertain fantasies, it would probably make more sense to drop out and endorse Warren. Or Bloomberg. Or everyone other than Sanders could drop out and endorse Biden.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

[squirecam]

47. Demanding others

Drop out is just trolling or being divisive. One unrepresentative state has voted.

[Buckeyeblue]

48. Iowa shouldn't decide our nominee

No one should drop until Super Tuesday.

[Gothmog]

49. Mayor Pete has 1% African American voter support

Mayor Pete has no chance of being the nominee

[dalton99a]

50. Sanders/Warren/Klobuchar/etc should do the same. Drop out Right Fucking Now!

Mayor Pete is our best hope against Donald Trump

Do it NOW.

Do it for Pete, and for Jesus

[Mike Nelson]

51. Not my 1st or even 2nd pick, but I...

... think not. Joe should stay in, for now. There is a debate, and the NH primary. Then, see how it goes... also, don't endorse another right away. Joe is not like Castro or Booker... he's more in the Obama and Hillary category... his endorsement should come later.

[Alliepoo]

52. As much as I hate to say it-

Unfortunately I do not believe this country is ready to elect a woman for president. Maybe maybe maybe for the vp. And it hurts my heart but I really don’t believe the good ol USA is anywhere near ready to elect a gay president. I believe it will happen in time and I truly hope I’m still alive to witness it but this country is not there yet. Just my opinion.

[mcar]

53. After one primary?

This is a joke, right?

[MrsCoffee]

54. Joe should do whatever the fuck he wants.

And he wants to win.

So good luck with your ridiculous suggestion.

[awesomerwb1]

55. They should all drop out and get behind

Gretchen Whitmer.

Problem solved.

[LakeArenal]

56. Click bait.

Pete should quit for Joe.

Both not happening. Both would disappoint everyone

[Nikki28]

57. Why should he

Am I missing something? Why should any in the top five drop out? Joe should go to the end to see where he goes.All of them should go all the way to the end.You never know who will come out on top.I will vote for Joe,Pete,Bloomberg,Amy,Liz and hold my nose and vote Bernie and pray he can pull it off.

[Demsrule86]

59. No Mayor Pete might do OK in New Hampshire...another lily white area...but he hits a brick wall

in diverse states...you do understand that POC are an important part of the Democratic Party?

[MineralMan]

60. Well, that's not going to happen.

It will be after Super Tuesday that the number of candidates for the nomination will get a lot smaller. Then, we'll see where the votes of those who do not continue go. That will decide who the nominee will be.

[Peacetrain]

61. Nope!!

[Bayard]

63. No

Joe continues to lead across the country. He can go toe to toe with tRump on every single issue, especially world-wide experience (which he did NOT screw up!).

I am going to love seeing those debates....

[BlueIdaho]

64. See you after Super Tuesday... nt.

[Bradical79]

70. Pete's not winning the South, even with a Biden endorsement

He has no chance in the long run.