Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumWow. Buttigieg makes my heart hurt with joy.
Man, the last couple of days have been a rollercoaster of emotions. Born in the very early 70's, and coming of age and developing in the 80's in the rural southern community of Breaux Bridge (pronounced "bro" , Louisiana.. I remember the bitter, depressed, sometimes suicidal, angry, self-loathing teenager that was me.. One that shamefully held close those feelings inside me.. those feelings that made me a "pervert", a "sinner", "disgusting".. feelings that made me into a less than human creature whose descriptors were all used as the most vile of insults that could be hurled at people you disliked.
I so wish I could go back in time and tell that tortured youth that.. it's going to be alright. That in his lifetime he will see his sexuality grow to be accepted. That the act of sex itself will soon no longer be a crime. That HIV isn't and will stop being viewed by the majority as just punishment from god. That serving openly and honorable in the military will become reality. That within his very own lifetime gay marriage would be legalized. and that someday an openly gay, legally married man, a veteran that actually served openly and honorably, would run for president for one of the 2 major parties, and actually come out in the first contest on or extremely near the top!!!...
Even if Mayor Pete Buttigieg doesn't go any further, this IS an incredible victory soooo worth much celebration! even if it was only 62% reporting yesterday, and now just a bit more.. This matters, and it is beautiful to behold.
LOVE YOU PETE! THANK YOU!!!
The way I feel!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
samnsara
(17,570 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bhikkhu
(10,708 posts)He served, was a naval intelligence officer, and has the backing of "more than 200 national security and foreign policy officials who endorsed his candidacy".
So I'm not worried about that part. I'm not entirely on the bandwagon just because we have so many really good candidates; he's one of about five I think we'd be in really good shape with if they won the primary race.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bobGandolf
(871 posts)Unfortunately, I think his being gay will hurt him. I would love to think differently.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)Sometimes being wrong is an incredibly beautiful thing.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
milestogo
(16,829 posts)she is my Senator now.
She was my congressional rep for 12 years - representing the Madison area, which is very liberal. But Wisconsin has a lot of right wingers. I didn't think she could possibly win a statewide race, but thankfully I WAS WRONG!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
grantcart
(53,061 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)His campaign against Sen. Baldwin was ugly. The biggest dogwhistle was the ad showing Nancy Pelosi's image with the voice saying "we don't need SAN FRANCISCO politics here in Wisconsin." I knew what it was saying and so did the bigots who were voting for Tommy anyway.
Of course it was Spivak and Bice from the Journal-Sentinel who exposed the deficit that Thompson/McCallum left behind. After way too many terms as governor, voters had Thompson fatigue. Having a mini scandal on top of it put a stake in the heart of his campaign. They never mentioned his mistress, however.
When Tommy ran for president, he didn't make it past neighboring Iowa. He finished 4th out of 6.
Luckily, Baldwin ran in 2018 against Leah Vukmir, the Michele Bachmann of Wisconsin. In 2024, it might be against Snotty Wanker.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Nikki28
(557 posts)I was saying yesterday. He would be a good president, but his preference is what I think will do him in. Had he married a woman, I would feel differently. That said, we never thought we would see a black president and we got one of the best in Obama,so anything is possible. He will go through a brutal in GE because of how cruel the cult of Trump and the king himself. Not that he can't handle it with his intelligence, I would be fearing for his life more than I did Obama.I love Pete and love to hear him speaking. Maybe if the Dems decided to get behind him,we can weather this storm. We will be fighting on all fronts from all forms of government and Russia and whatever country Rump ask for help and the traitors Reb.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
His sexual orientation would energize dems as no one else in this race. Just thinking that we could have a first man in the white house is beyond inspiring. He is the most charismatic candidate we have and by far the most intelligent, a Rhodes scholar.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)Behind the scenes, the press referred to him as the "First Gentleman". But, like not showing FDR's wheelchair, they respected the office and nobody in the populace knew for over 100 years.
Buchanan didn't destroy the nation, so (to paraphrase John Lennon) Give Pete a chance.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PandoraAwakened
(905 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bobGandolf
(871 posts)if our country as a whole is ready to accept his sexual orientation. Lord knows Republican Southern Baptists, priests, ministers, etc. would be all over him as a sinner.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bobGandolf
(871 posts)I think maybe he would help the ticket if he was to be picked/offered the vp candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
radical noodle
(7,990 posts)would vote for trump anyway. I said this earlier today in another thread and will repeat it here...
I think we forget that a lot of folks who 20 or 30 years ago would never have voted for a gay man or woman now have had to come to terms with the fact that they have friends and family members they love who are gay. In the past, they could pretend it wasn't true because so many stayed in the closet, but I've seen firsthand how the knowledge that their own loved ones are gay changed their feelings dramatically. I no longer think it's a deal-breaker the way it would have been a couple of decades ago.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OnlinePoker
(5,702 posts)I think this will be a real challenge among Democrats in the bible belt and could be one of the reasons he's polling so poorly in South Carolina.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
radical noodle
(7,990 posts)He'd been in Iowa for a year, with his husband, and openly gay. He traveled all over the state. I tend to think this was more like someone's idea of a dirty trick. In addition, his answer to her was amazing so there's that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TheRealNorth
(9,435 posts)And doesn't play identity politics with being gay, I think he will be okay.
That's one of the reasons Obama did better than Hillary among white working class voters I think. He didn't play up that being the 1st African American President should be a reason that people should vote for him.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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genxlib
(5,507 posts)While it isn't as personal for me, I do feel a lot of pride that we are moving forward in that regard.
I don't think it is his time but I really like him. The great thing is he should have 40 more years to grow and serve.
I hope he comes away with an important position in the very near future so he can stay in the public eye and get more on his resume at the national level.
I have heard many Cabinet positions floated as possibilities and would support him in any of them. One thing I have not seen mentioned that I would seriously consider is Chief of Staff. I would love to have that calm cool intellect on my side in a crisis.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Farmer-Rick
(10,072 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Glorfindel
(9,706 posts)and much of your history, though I'm a generation older than you. Thank you for such a heartfelt, joyous, and well-written post.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
donkeypoofed
(2,187 posts)I distinctly remember when Mayor Pete said he came out after returning home from Afghanistan.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)It is literally a miracle that this young man has found the American spotlight.
I'm old and straight and he is not my first choice,but I am thrilled with his Iowa victory.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bobGandolf
(871 posts)Nice to see a post like this.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dsc
(52,130 posts)I was born late 67. I never thought he would get this far and am honestly amazed he has. Growing up knowing I was 'different' and eventually putting a name on that difference was tough at time. I will be 20 years sober in April obviously one doesn't count sobriety if drinking went well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cosmocat
(14,543 posts)I fought it for about a while after he announced, but after going out and watching a few of his videos, he got on my radar and I paid attention, and it was clear he was special. Despite really not wanting to just not have "my candidate" I committed to him sometime last summer.
Who knows if he makes it or not, this country simply is stupid as fuck.
But, he is right on the issues, goes at the real problem with Rs, and has the presence.
Just gotta see how it plays out.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)So far, we haven't heard one degrading adjective/nickname about Mayor Pete. This is his first victory, so wait and see.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cosmocat
(14,543 posts)I think has taken a few other shots, but mostly he has other targets he is more focused on.
But, Pete, as with ANY D is going to face some serious bullshit not just from the idiot, but the republicans and their conservative attack dogs, and the feckless media hellbent on slavishly advancing republican attacks to be "unbiased."
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)Trump was blackmailing Ukraine over Biden and Uncle Joe didn't do so hot. It was too early to go all-in on one candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Claritie Pixie
(2,199 posts)I certainly hope that's not the only reason you adore him.
While inspiring he's where he is, not good enough.
Tell me more about why he's our best choice and leave his sexuality out of it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Politicub
(12,163 posts)Dont you dare push him back into a closet because of his sexuality.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Pisces
(5,592 posts)Abortion answer on (Fox no less) that I have ever heard even from the female candidates. He is steady and authentic. It shines through. He is also one of the few candidates that has not changed his position on health care, etc. He has said things that have not been the most popular, he also doesnt wait to poll test his every answer. He is a moderate which I feel appeals to many. I think hes youth is what most people will hold against him. I love Buttigieg every time I hear him speak. I am a person who wants the most electable candidate that has the best chance of beating Trump. He has to go. I would proudly vote for Buttigieg if he is the nominee.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)When President Obama ran, or for Senators Booker or Harris, were you likewise telling people:
"Being black doesn't mean he'd be a good president though."
Or Hillary supporters, or your own declared candidate Senator Warren:
"Being female doesn't mean she'd be a good president though."
Pretty sad you don't find any inspiration at all in social progress. Rather pathetic actually.
Don't bother with the reply.. off to block you go.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bobGandolf
(871 posts)Try listening to him speak for gods sake. Watch him think and answer on his toes. His intelligence, honesty, compassion, and an outside the box thinker.....I could go on, but you need to spend the time to learn about him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bobGandolf
(871 posts)Try listening to him speak for gods sake. Watch him think and answer on his toes. His intelligence, honesty, compassion, and an outside the box thinker.....I could go on, but you need to spend the time to learn about him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
denem
(11,045 posts)vimeo.com/252814245
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
grantcart
(53,061 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bullwinkle428
(20,627 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Chakaconcarne
(2,387 posts)our best chance to win imo.
the GOP will have a tough time pushing a narrative on him.... the others they can have a field day with.
and he is in stark contrast to trump... good vs evil. smart vs dumb. young vs old.....etc.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
radical noodle
(7,990 posts)Also calm vs volatile. Measured vs erratic. Thoughtful vs irrational.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IronLionZion
(45,261 posts)because of the grass roots campaigning and meeting directly with as many voters as possible. And having passionate supporters convince others to vote for their candidate. It worked for Obama in 2008.
Larger states would give the advantage to candidates with a lot of financing and establishment support.
Mayor Pete is good people. I hope he has a bright future ahead.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,124 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OneMoreCupOfCoffee
(314 posts)And I understand what this win meant to him and to many millions of my fellow Americans.
Thank you for sharing your stories. I stand with you!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden