Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBloomberg's Support May Be Broader Than I Thought
Anecdotal evidence to be sure, but a recent post I made to FB expressing support for Mike has brought numerous concurring comments from friends. I am surprised at how many took the opportunity to say they outright support Mike, but more surprised at the many comments from supporters of other D candidates who are considering changing their support to Mike.
These comments came post-Iowa. I wonder if the mess in Iowa has people spooked, that the chaos has somehow attached to candidates who bear no responsibility for said chaos. That would be unfortunate, but it may also be an inconvenient truth.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,128 posts)Bloomberg-Warren ticket to cover most of the bases? Or even better a Bloomberg-Harris slate?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Doremus
(7,261 posts)Edited to add:
Elizabeth Warren. He supported her opponent Scott Brown, Republican.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redqueen
(115,103 posts)Hmmmmmmmmmm
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Doremus
(7,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
comradebillyboy
(10,128 posts)But speculating is fun.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)The two know each-other well from their time as big city mayors and they are friendly toward each-other. But a Bloomberg-Harris ticket would work.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mia
(8,360 posts)Best combination so far.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,466 posts)And Mass has a Gop governor. Look what happened with Scott Brown.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)He is a huge fan of Thomas Piketty. But at Christmas dinner he was talking up Bloomberg as a good person to beat Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Doremus
(7,261 posts)The billionaire businessman, who has switched parties several times throughout his political career, endorsed George W. Bushs 2004 reelection campaign, contributed to John McCain and even held a fundraiser for a House GOP member as recently as last year.
And thats not all. Beneficiaries of his largesse include former Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), a vigorous Trump defender, and Senate Appropriations Chairman Richard Shelby of Alabama, who once chaired the Senate Banking Committee.
Then theres former Sen. Scott Brown (R-Mass.). Bloomberg endorsed and held a fundraiser for Brown when he ran against Elizabeth Warren in 2012.
As a Democratic candidate for president, he makes an excellent Republican donor, quipped Pennsylvania Democratic Lt. Gov. John Fetterman, who has not yet endorsed anyone in the primary.
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/26/bloomberg-republican-endorsement-2020-073807
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bullwinkle428
(20,628 posts)incredibly well-produced commercials alone to define the narrative.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Doremus
(7,261 posts)Write a check to the DNC, voila!
It sucks.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
comradebillyboy
(10,128 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Doremus
(7,261 posts)https://nypost.com/2020/01/29/bloomberg-gave-800k-to-democratic-party-during-campaign-launch/
You can come to your own conclusions as to any influence it had, or didn't have, on the decision to allow him on the debate stage.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
comradebillyboy
(10,128 posts)OK I won't condemn him for that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Any candidate with serious polling numbers should get on the debate stage to answer for his or her policy positions and past political decisions. To not have people that have serious polling numbers on stage would be a mistake.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
spooky3
(34,405 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Doremus
(7,261 posts)What I care very much about is that the rules are the same for everybody. If you can overlook that more power to you.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)That forces him to face other significant polling candidates, deal with their questions to him and have to defend everything that he stands for and has done. You should welcome that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
I_M_Blue_2
(91 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bucolic_frolic
(43,054 posts)Bloomberg has stature, integrity. I'd not be a fan of another businessman, I think we need a diplomat-lawyer-career politician familiar with the past, the operations of government, who understands how to stitch this back together. Bloomberg is not a big overlap on that, but he would hire quality people to get things done. I think we're just flummoxed after Iowa and grasping at straws in this time period, but I do think a brokered convention is possible, and therefore candidates of high caliber which includes Mike Bloomberg of course are very much in the sieve.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CrispyQ
(36,422 posts)Someone asked him what he thought Americans would think of two New York billionaires running for president, and he responded, "Who's the other one?" His ads and tweets are good! And he has the bucks to spread them far and wide. And he's landed some punches if the Con's tweets are any indication.
Of the three older white men running, I think Bloomberg is the one candidate the Con is the least prepared to run against. They will come after Biden with a fake investigation, and they will call Bernie a socialist and rev up the old "they're going to give all your money to people who don't work" fear. And both tactics will negatively influence a huge number of voters. What has the Con got against Bloomberg? Oh that's right. He's short.
My primary vote will go for whoever I think can knock the Con down. I have a few more weeks to decide.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redqueen
(115,103 posts)He's also the owner of a huge media empire.
The media is right up there with Congress and a bad case of the runs as things people really hate.
Then there's the fact that he's ban-happy. Most Americans don't like bans.
And let's not forget the example of his disdain for civil rights - stop and risk - which yeah he did admit he was wrong, but he only did so a few months ago.
He will be a nice, fat target for many, many attacks.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
tinrobot
(10,885 posts)In terms of overall policy, Bloomberg is not my ideal choice. I'm much more liberal.
But - in terms of the way Bloomberg is campaigning, he's currently the best. Bloomberg's the only one attacking Trump in a way that really hurts him. The rest of the candidates need to learn a lesson from that.
So... he's made my short list, I'll decide when the primary rolls around.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Horizens
(637 posts)Exactly
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
captain queeg
(10,096 posts)That being said not all billionaires are created equal. If it turns out hes the democratic nominee Id happily support him
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ZenDem
(442 posts)I actually started doing some more research.
Absolutely zero offense to any of the current top runners, but I just can't get excited about any of them. After Harris and Castro dropped out, I think I just decided to sit back and wait to see who we would end up with.
Not 100% on board with Bloomberg, but I'm far less against him than I thought I would be. I just keep waiting for a shoe to drop, though. Kicked Dog Syndrome, probably.
I still don't have a 'chosen one'. It changes daily.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redqueen
(115,103 posts)We may be witnessing the end of the party.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Amishman
(5,554 posts)Our party is not for sale.
No Bloomberg
No Steyer
No Cuban
And especially No Trump
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Piratedog
(256 posts)Im so tired of this argument.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Amishman
(5,554 posts)Not only are there huge concerns about where their priorities are, but they have zero understanding how how actual Americans live.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,311 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
jcmaine72
(1,773 posts)He has a (D) next to his name now, so his support for Dumbya (both times), the Iraq War, along with the countless civil rights violations that non-whites were subjected to under his once beloved Stop & Frisk program, are now all forgotten. After all, that's why pencils have erasers, and what paid advertising (tens of millions of dollars worth) is for.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)(well, no more an absolute truth than was yours-- i.e., unsupported editorials lacking objective data to support the premise)
In 1975, Pet Rocks had broad support too, but Stretch Armstrong and the Easy Bake Oven were both patient and held out for the long run, winning the Christmas sales numbers.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Blue_true
(31,261 posts)So I sit fairly far from both you and Bloomberg. I am somewhere between Biden and Warren, closer to Warren in politics. Though left, I am very uncomfortable with Bernie, I don't view much of what he is offering as achievable. But I will support 100% and vote for whoever wins the nomination.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)yet Bloomberg supported Bush, gave speeches endorsing him and illegally detained people protesting against Bush.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Piratedog
(256 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ismnotwasm
(41,965 posts)First, Im going to support the nominee, period. Bloombergs ads are well made, soothing. Hes reaching out and making himself a I can put us on the right track persona. Psychologically its interesting
I didnt think hed have done this well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Politicub
(12,165 posts)Yes, hes spending a lot of money, but so is Tom Steyer and the other front runners. But what sets him apart is that he is gaining forward momentum at a fast pace.
His message is resonating. And I love how he ruthlessly attacks Trump without mincing words.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden