He is Going There. Actually Half Way There.

[Scurrilous]

Go Joe!

Link to tweet

Bernie's Adventures on a Stalinist Kibbutz

<snip>

'Now that Bernie Sanders has become a serious candidate for president, it is inevitable that the media will pay attention to every aspect of his life. In 1963, when Sanders traveled to Israel to work on a kibbutz there were scores of American Jewish students who also volunteered. So it is rather strange that Sanders has consistently refused to tell the press about his time there and the kibbutz he worked on. When asked, he and his campaign dodged the issue.

Why would Sanders not answer such a simple question?

Now we have the answer from the Times of Israel. In 1990, Sanders, who was preparing to assume his newly elected position as a member of Congress, was interviewed by Israeli journalist Yossi Melman. Sanders told him that he visited Israel “as a guest of the leftist Zionist Hashomer Hatzair movement and stayed at its affiliated kibbutz, northeast of Haifa.”

Calling Kibbutz Shaar Haamakim simply “leftist” does not sufficiently describe the ideology of Hashomer Hatzair members. At the time, most American students who were Zionists belonged to Habonim, a mainstream group affiliated with Israel’s governing party, Labor.

Hashomer Hatzair, to the contrary, was the affiliate of Mapam, the coalition political group in Israel that united a few different left-wing groups into one political organization. By 1969, Hashomer Hatzair had entered into a unity pact with Labor. Despite this, its own members remained left-wing socialists. Today, its descendants support Israel’s far left political party, Meretz.'

https://www.hudson.org/research/12194-bernie-s-adventures-on-a-stalinist-kibbutz

[Sherman A1]

1. I'm okay with being called a socialist

I have been called that before and likely will be again.

[PatSeg]

4. Its not a good tag if you are running for president though

Not every voter is comfortable with that tag.

[Sherman A1]

6. Perhaps

In your opinion it isn’t a good tag, others might differ.

[PatSeg]

9. Personally it doesn't phase me

but I am more liberal than a large percentage of the voting population. Not everyone who votes pays as much attention to politics as we do and certain words could turn them off. Meanwhile, republicans will be using their scare tactics about socialism and communism. Trump has already started, it will get worse.

Buttigieg, Biden, Warren, Klobuchar, Bloomberg, and Yang can all flat out say they are not socialists, but Bernie has already declared he is one over and over again. He can't untag himself.

[stopdiggin]

18. that would be a fairly small minority in this country

(IMO)
There might be a segment that wouldn't be particularly bothered ... There would be a fairly small fraction that would actually embrace the label.

[maximusveritas]

46. "an overwhelming majority of respondents, 76 percent, said they would not vote for a "socialist"

That's from one poll last year, but it is fairly consistent. While in some cases, it might get better when you get down to what the actual candidate supports and people find they actually support it too, but that won't be the case with Sanders since his policies really are as extreme as the label implies

[UniteFightBack]

99. Why this FACT alone does not convince people is beyond me. nt

[JudyM]

62. Not so sure about that.

A quick search brought this up, concluding that Dems have a more positive view of socialism than capitalism, 57% vs 47%: https://news.gallup.com/poll/240725/democrats-positive-socialism-capitalism.aspx
And it shows there are some rethugs who feel positively about socialism, as well: 16%. Those would be the ones who might cross over and vote for Sanders, and that’s no small number...

If you have different data, please post it so we can get to the truth, if this isn’t it.

[kurtcagle]

105. Socialism when explained, yes, but ...

There are a lot of people in this country who associated the word socialism with Russian communism, to the extent that its connotation is far worse than its denotation. There's been a lot of conditioning in this country, even among moderate Democrats, that socialists want to destroy the capitalist system, and when most people believe capitalism is fundamentally good and right, that's a lot of baggage to have to deal with.

[saidsimplesimon]

54. Thanks Sherman

[Cha]

34. That's nice.. it won't be good for Dems Running who

Flipped red Districts to Blue, though.. in the Blue Wave Midterm House Victory.

[Kurt V.]

59. +1000

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

65. I'd rathe be known as a Democratic socialist country than the Corporate socialist one we got now...

that pissess on the working class every fucking day... we're sick of the crumbs that the corporate class throws us!! Bernie has our backs.. and you can be DAMN sure we got his!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Viva La Revolucion!!:

[Tweedy]

100. Have a ? for the Senator

No matter whom we nominate, the GOP will call that person a socialist, along with any other "alternative facts" those folks are able to fabricate.

My question for Senator Sanders is simple:

If we nominate Senator Sanders, will he support the democratic ticket up and down the line? Or will he refuse to support some as he has done to democratic hopefuls in the past?

Since Senator Sanders has not yet demonstrated the kind of grassroots support he told us he needs to get his agenda passed into law, we do need an answer to that question.

It is difficult not to like the irascible Senator; nevertheless, we do need a nominee who encourages us to vote democratic so we can fix this GOP enabled Trump mess.

[Sherman A1]

102. I would address the question to the Sanders Campaign

I have no idea what his plans are to support down ticket are or are not.

I do guarantee that you will not get an informed answer to your question from me.

[Tweedy]

103. You are right of course

[Gothmog]

112. This concept polls badly and would help trump

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[lamp_shade]

2. That scares the bejezus out of me. I personally resent being labeled a socialist.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

69. Can't believe Joe went there, but that's okay...let's compare Joe's voting record

as the Senator from Delaware, home to the vast majority of Fortune 500 companies, to Bernie's Democratic socialist voting record.

Let the vetting begin!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[lamp_shade]

75. I don't care what the label means nowadays, but I'm old and in my day...

the label socialist was synonymous with commie. I don't like it and won't be associated with it.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

82. Respect! But I wear the Democratic Socialist label w/ PRIDE & refuse to be a CORPORATE Socialist!!

Like Bernie... and I hope one day you'll join us and help make the world a better place for it!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[lamp_shade]

87. Well I'm happy for you.

[ibegurpard]

3. they're all going to wear that label anyway

Because that's what Republicans do. That's the weakest reason not to support Bernie in my opinion. any of them will get my vote if they prevail in the primary. Because judiciary. Period.

[stopdiggin]

16. only in Sanders' case .. the label will be a glowing, pulsing neon

With no effort whatsoever to refute. Which makes it a little different from the others.
So perhaps not as weak an argument as you would have it. (IMO)

[I_M_Blue_2]

20. Not Bloomberg, no one can say he is a socialist N/T

[k2qb3]

24. They can say he's a fascist though!

[I_M_Blue_2]

47. Not compared to Trump

Will not hurt him in GE

[ibegurpard]

25. nonsense of course they can

they actually ran against John Kerry's Purple Heart. Truth means nothing to these people.

[rurallib]

28. sure they can - logic and sense mean nothing to Republicans

"socialist" makes them pee their pants, while "fascist" is a warm and friendly word.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

38. Well, he's a Republican, so....

[I_M_Blue_2]

52. But he is not Trump

[Cuthbert Allgood]

55. Let's just run Mitt Romney then. He's not Trump either.

And we'd get a lot of the Republicans to vote for him.

[I_M_Blue_2]

64. If that what we need to do to defeat Trump

I am all for it. Trump MUST be defeated to save democracy in the United States.

[ehrnst]

74. Well, now that's not a false dilemma/attacking a straw man twofer at all...

[handmade34]

27. it is THE reason

to be against Bernie as the nominee (I WILL vote for whomever is on the Democratic ticket)

I call myself a socialist, but I am a pragmatist and I live in the real world... yes the Republicans will use the word but it will have legitimacy if Bernie is our nominee... read any study or research on people's opinions, fears, concerns... younger people are not afraid, and critically thoughtful people are not afraid, but... trump has been very successful at distorting, misleading, gaslighting, brainwashing... I will stake everything I have right now on the reality that Bernie will lose if he is the nominee...

Bernie is my Senator and he keeps getting elected because Vermont is a world unto itself... it is not representative of the United States in any way

I like Bernie okay as my Senator (he got money for the rail trail I live near ) Bernie is not a good idea as President

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

84. THISSSSSSSS!!! TIP OF THE HAT TO YOU!!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[PatSeg]

5. This is more the Joe Biden I remember

[Cuthbert Allgood]

37. McCarthy-esque Red Scare and The Devil Weed? That's not a good look.

[PatSeg]

58. That's not how I took it

He's talking about electability in a general election and that some people would be scared off by the "socialist" tag.

[Vivienne235729]

95. I took it as electability as well.

[PatSeg]

97. Welcome to DU!

Joe is not mean spirited. When he criticizes someone, he tries to do it without being personally insulting. Of course, that won't be true with Trump, however.

[Vivienne235729]

98. Hi PatSeg, thank you but I am not new to DU. I was AgadorSparticus.

I left for a few years and coming back it was just easier to create a new account. But I agree. I don't think he was trying to be mean, either. Come to think of it, I don't think I have ever heard him try to be mean. He's too much of a pro.

[PatSeg]

101. Yes, that's true

He has a lot of class, but down to earth as well.

Welcome back then! I've taken long breaks from DU, but Trump was enough to motivate me to seek like minds. Once we get past the election, I might need another break. Its only February and I'm exhausted already.

[Vivienne235729]

104. Understandably, the sheer amount of gaslighting is overwhelming!

Hang in there! Nov will be here before you know it. But if you just cant take it anymore, take a break now so that you'll be ready to come back by October.

[PatSeg]

109. I take a lot of mini breaks

A good movie or book, but I still feel the need to keep up with what is happening. I'm afraid I might miss something important!

I finally cut back on my political books and started reading more escapism fiction, something I rarely ever did before. That helps. Did have to break down and start reading "A Very Stable Genius", but I'll follow it with something frivolous and mindless.

[oasis]

7. If our nominee had a socialist label, many Dems would likely vote for him,

but campaigning for him would be a bit more complicated.

[Pololv]

88. If bernie is the nominee, I will hold my nose & vote for him.

But just that. I will NOT campaign for him. Period.

I will never forget or forgive...

[oasis]

89. He'll get my G.E. vote, but I'm not about to defend M4A to folks.

[Pololv]

107. oh - I like his positions and proposals.

I just can't stand HIM. More with each fart he spews.

His constant trashing of the Democratic Party really ticks me off.

I still don't understand why, especially this time around, they let him USE the Democratic Party to run. BERNIE IS NO DEMOCRAT, NEVER HAS BEEN!!!!!!

[oasis]

108. .....

I'm far from being a fan of Bernie's, but I'd advise you to tread lightly on your criticism of any Democrat on DU.

Just a friendly FYI

[bluescribbler]

8. Why is this a problem?

I don't see it. I voted for Bernie in2016. I don't plan to vote for him this year, unless he wins the nomination. There are too many other good candidates this year.

[ehrnst]

85. It's not a problem for us, but for a lot of the general public. The term "socialist" was

used successfully to create suspicion of Obama and the ACA, because it's the racist code word that's replaced "communist."

Many people are going to associate "socialism" with Cuba, the USSR, and Venezula.


This is why you use the word "public" instead of "communal" or "governement."

There would be no way to disassociate "socialism" from Sanders - in whatever associations that it has with people in the US.

[demmiblue]

10. The Hudson Institute:

The Hudson Institute is a politically conservative,[8] 501(c)(3) non-profit American think tank based in Washington, D.C. It was founded in 1961[1] in Croton-on-Hudson, New York, by futurist, military strategist, and systems theorist Herman Kahn and his colleagues at the RAND Corporation.

According to its website, the Institute promotes "American leadership and global engagement for a secure, free, and prosperous future."[9] It promotes public policy change in accordance with its stated belief that "America's unique and central role in the global system offers the best foundation for security, the defense of liberty, and assuring economic growth."[10]

...

Vice President Michael Pence used the think tank as his venue for a major policy speech on China[73][74] on 4 October 2018, noting that "Beijing is employing a whole-of-government approach, using political, economic, and military tools, as well as propaganda, to advance its influence and benefit its interests in the United States".

Hudson offers two annual awards, the Herman Kahn Award[8] and the Global Leadership Awards.[75][76] Past Hudson Institute honorees include United Nations Ambassador Nikki Haley,[77] House Speaker Paul Ryan,[78] Vice President Mike Pence,[79] Ronald Reagan, Henry Kissinger, Rupert Murdoch,[80] Dick Cheney,[8] Joseph Lieberman,[81] Benjamin Netanyahu,[82] David Petraeus, and Shinzo Abe.[83]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudson_Institute

[Scurrilous]

14. It's everywhere.

This is actually the most fair. Plus it has links to other stuff.

[I_M_Blue_2]

21. What does this have to do with anything,

I do not understand it, please explain

[demmiblue]

22. Democratic Underground Terms of Service:

Don't peddle right-wing talking points, smears, or sources

Do not post right-wing talking points or smears. Do not post content sourced from right-wing publications, authors, or pundits. Exceptions are permitted if you provide a clear reason for doing so that is consistent with the values of this website.

Why we have this rule: News media and the Internet are already awash with conservative propagandists attacking our candidates and our values -- we're not interested in providing them with another outlet. We understand that many of our members might hold some conservative viewpoints on isolated issues, but nobody here should be parroting hateful garbage from the RNC, the NRA, or the Family Research Council. Forum members should expect that the only time they'll have to read a right-wing smear or an article from Breitbart is when someone is pointing and laughing at it.

[Scurrilous]

39. OK Then. Forward. Liberal as it gets.

Bernie Sanders Stint at 'Stalinist' Kibbutz Draws Red-Baiting From Right

https://forward.com/news/333020/bernie-sanders-stint-at-stalinist-kibbutz-draws-red-baiting-from-right/

As I said, the other had links to stuff.

[Sloumeau]

11. Do you know why the Republicans will be able to label Bernie as...

a pro-marijuana, Socialist, former Communist, tax and spend Liberal revolutionary who wants to raise taxes by tens of trillions of dollars over the next decade and make those labels stick?

They will be able to do it because in this case, all of those labels will be true.

They will be able to paint Bernie Sanders with just about every Liberal stereotype that exists.

It would not be pretty.

[I_M_Blue_2]

23. Both Bernie and Joe cannot win

I do not care about policy, I only care about protecting our democracy. That is why I support Bloomberg. I believe he is the only one who can beat Trump.

[I_M_Blue_2]

26. PS - He cannot be labeled a socialist

He has a lot more money than Trump and unlike Trump he uses it for the public good.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

72. Bloomberg?! Are you serious?! After rich-splainin why we should all vote for Shrub?! No thank you!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[OneMoreCupOfCoffee]

30. All the rest, but "liberal?"

When has Sanders self-identified as a liberal?

[Cuthbert Allgood]

36. OMG He supports the weed?

Really? So now it's red scare and those damn hippies? And Biden wonders why so many see him as a doddering old guy?

[brutus smith]

12. Every modern Dem candidate has been labeled a socialist by the repubs.

[brooklynite]

13. Only one candidate has accepted the label.

[brutus smith]

32. And?

[brooklynite]

33. Makes the labeling that much easier.

[Doremus]

15. OMG grab the kids and take cover

They're calling us NAMES!!!

We'd better run the candidate least likely to draw their fire! Yes, that's how we can win! Whew, glad we figured that one out!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

73. LOL!! I say keep it up... the Baseless Bernie Bashing Backlash keeps Bernie surgin in the polls!!

Bernie's a Democratic Socialist alright... that's PRECISELY why he's the ONLY candidate who can take on the corrupt CORPORATE Socialists, like tRump, who have shit all over the working class and the poor in this country for as long as I can remember.

We The People are rising the fuck up!! We've finally found our Champion... and it's BERNIE!! He's joined us in the fight for our lives!! Join Bernie in the Revolution!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[DanTex]

17. Hudson Institute is a right-wing think tank. Just so you know.

[krissey]

19. I am glad to hear Biden say this. This is important.

[Horizens]

29. God Tag ? Bad Tag ?

It's a loser tag for sure. Period

[walker59]

31. Oh no, they're going to call us names

We need to vote for the same old thing then.

[Scurrilous]

40. The Red Scare was based on Joe McCarthy's lies. This is true.

What was cute and funny in Vermont will kill him in any Presidential GE.



A

[Cuthbert Allgood]

41. It's not true that socialism is the fucking devil.

We live in a society that is based on a lot of socialism. I shouldn't have to explain that on a liberal website, for fuck's sake. Jangling out the red scare is a bullshit move and shouldn't happen in the Democratic party.

[Scurrilous]

43. I guess you missed the Super Bowl pregame.

Trump called him a communist. That's what I meant by halfway in the title. This country is not Vermont. It will be bad.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

44. Trump's a fucking asshole. Guess what he's going to say about Biden. And Pete. And Liz.

He's a fucking asshole. It's either "communist," or "lock him up," or "little gay Pete," or "Pocahontas," or whatever else for the others. Trump gonna be Trump. We don't need Biden doing the fucking Red Scare bullshit, too.

[ehrnst]

80. False equivalence.

No other candidate has run on the Socialist Workers Party ticket, praised the government controlled housing prices while honeymooning in the Soviet Union, or dismissed "horrors" in Cuba as right-wing propaganda. In living memory. With video.

So, no, there's not equal oppo against all Democratic candidates.

Why else do you think that Bernie was, and is the only candidate that's been promoted by both GOP and Russia?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/14/us/politics/trump-sanders-bloomberg-2020.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/02/17/indictment-russians-also-tried-help-bernie-sanders-jill-stein-presidential-campaigns/348051002/

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/07/bernie-sanders-republican-senate-1307296

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/4/20/18508880/karl-rove-bernie-sanders-could-beat-donald-trump-in-2020

Something to consider... why has the GOP completely held any and all fire against Sanders, while going out of their way to bash Biden?

[Claritie Pixie]

42. Funny how the word socialist is a bad word to both parties.

Dare I try to explain the difference between a socialist and a democratic socialist?

You know, all of our programs like Medicare and SS are democratic socialism.

[Zolorp]

48. The vast majority of the electorate will never make such a distinction.

And if you are explaining, you are losing.

[OneMoreCupOfCoffee]

49. Patiently untrue.

[Claritie Pixie]

51. Of course you'd say that.

[OneMoreCupOfCoffee]

53. Right, because I'm a reality-based liberal Democrat.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

56. Do explain how SS and Medicare aren't democratic socialism.

I'll wait.

[OneMoreCupOfCoffee]

60. Easy. Socialism is the collective ownership of the means of production and distribution.

Social Security and Medicare are not the means of production.

Concept fails.

Same with schools, police & fire, road-building, libraries, or any the other public programs that are disingenuously claimed as examples of "socialism."

Any other questions?

[ehrnst]

76. And anyone with any understanding of communication would say that

using the word "public" rather than "communal" or "socialist" or "government run" would not trigger the fear response in conservatives.

However, only one candidate on the Democratic ticket has run on a "Socialist Workers Party" ticket, so that's gonna be a tough sell trying to convince the general public that he's not a Trotskyite...

And his own statements don't really help, either.

[OneMoreCupOfCoffee]

79. That candidate isn't on "the Democratic ticket."

He's running "as a Democrat."

Substantial difference, yes?

[ehrnst]

86. He doesn't serve or vote as a Democrat, and has never accepted the Democratic nomination

when he runs on the Democratic ticket in the Vermont Senate primary.

Matter of record.

Call his office. His staff will tell you that his political affiliation is Independent, but runs on the Democratic ticket for the primary.

Running on the Democratic ticket is very, very different than being a Democratic politician.

Sanders: I don't consider myself a Democrat

He said himself that he runs as a Democrat for the earned $$$ and media exposure that a major political party provides.

Tad Devine and his staff had to give him an ultimatum because he didn't want to run as a Democrat.

The biggest argument was over running as a Democrat. Over and over, Bernie Sanders said he didn’t want to. He’d spent his whole life purposefully outside the Democratic Party. He treasured his status as the longest-serving independent in Congress. Running as a Democrat wasn’t who he was. He didn’t want to do it that way.

His longtime consultant Tad Devine and the rest of the group came down hard: this is never going to have a chance of working unless you get over it. Suck it up, they told him.

That's a matter of record.

[ehrnst]

66. It's not DU that needs convincing.

It's the general perception of it in the US that convinced people that Obama was a "socialist" and that the ACA was "socialism."

[OnDoutside]

71. No,it's more the political capital the Repugs will have to kick the Dems. Das Kapital, as it were...

When you're explaining, you're losing, unfortunately.

[ehrnst]

83. But we need to accept that the word "socialism" is loaded for many.

This is why we need to call Medicare and SS, "public" programs, not "government" or "socialist" programs.

We have one candidate who ran on the Socialist Worker Party ticket, and praised the government controlled housing prices in the Soviet Union on his honeymoon. On video.

I think that Sanders would be a better Senator or perhaps advisor than a POTUS candidate.

[Pololv]

90. If you spend your time exlpaining - you're losing. NT

[Cha]

45. Yeah, Shine the Light!

Link to tweet

[Zolorp]

50. Uncle Joe just pulled me back from flirting with Bloomberg!

GO JOE!

[Cha]

61. Oh Good.. I've been reading about all that

"flirtation". lol

[Squinch]

57. What does Joe saying (rightly) we don't want to be labeled Socialist have to do with the article?

What am I missing? Who went halfway where?

[awesomerwb1]

63. The "socialist" tag would be a disaster

for the Democratic party. A vast majority of the country don't know the difference between socialism and communism.

It would be soooooooo easy to con the less informed into thinking socialism = communism. They have already started with the "far left" tag on every Dem.

No thanks.

[NurseJackie]

67. I'm not willing to carry that label. I'm NOT a Socialist.

Isn't there an ACTUAL Socialist party that Socialists can join?

[onetexan]

68. exactly. BS can go set up his so-called " Democratic Socialist " party. He is NOT a Democrat and

SHOULD NOT have been allowed to run as one. He is usurping the party and dividing it.

[madibella]

70. This is my fear. The republicans have turned the word socialist into something scary

and as a result, voters may turn away from any candidate who is labeled as such.

[apcalc]

77. Joe is probably right. And socialism is very "unpopular".

Say hello to 4 more years.

[KPN]

78. OK Joe. I thought you said you were the one to take on tRump and the GOP, the tough guy who could

deal with tRump and the GOP. Is that what you just did? We better make sure we don't nominate Sanders because they'll call him a socialist as well as every other Democrat on the ticket. That's fighting them, taking them on mano-a-mano?

[Autumn]

81. Go Joe.

[highplainsdem]

91. Go, Joe!

[Hekate]

92. "Stalinist kibbutz"? Holy shit

But of course Bernie never makes a mistake and never apologizes....

[Cha]

93. Biden is absolutely correct. Excellent point.

[MustLoveBeagles]

106. He is

I wish this wasn't the case but that's the reality unfortunately.

[Scurrilous]

110. Yep.

[myohmy2]

94. guilt...

...through association...

...a hundred years ago...

...youthful exuberance...

...nobody knows, nobody cares...

...if Joe gets the nod, he'll be the 'Communist/Socialist'...

...and what's wrong with Democratic Socialism anyway?

...and how about our Nazi-in-Chief?


...Bernie's just touting policies and programs that most of the world has adopted and implemented and considers normal and acceptable...

...you're not going to 'Red Scare' today's voter when they want and need the programs and policies Bernie offers...

...you're just going to re-elect trump...

[Gore1FL]

96. They call everyone socialist. They also scatter in nazi, fascist, and libtard.

Why do I care what idiots on the right call me?

[Gothmog]

111. trump would love to run against a weak socialist candidate

Link to tweet