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bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 05:24 PM Feb 2020

The conspiracy theories about Iowa are bizarre.

I'm not seeing them repeated here much because they essentially violate community norms here, but they are fascinating.

The essential theory is that a global cabal of evildoers is faking all of the data out of Iowa.

All in all, it's nice to come to Democratic Underground and be free from conspiratorial and delusional nonsense.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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The conspiracy theories about Iowa are bizarre. (Original Post) bluedye33139 Feb 2020 OP
Tom Price and Company got caught with Wellstone ruled Feb 2020 #1
When things don't happen as expected, sometimes people are tempted to think The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #2
Fuck those Jill Stein supporters, Republicans, and some, I assume, are Russian. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #3
Bluedye, that's exactly how I see it too. Nitram Feb 2020 #4
There are a few on DU trying to subtly push them... TwilightZone Feb 2020 #5
The optics are ... not good redqueen Feb 2020 #6
I wonder how many of these problems have been there all along Retrograde Feb 2020 #7
That is why we need primaries with paper ballots. Blue_true Feb 2020 #8
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
1. Tom Price and Company got caught with
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 05:30 PM
Feb 2020

a failure to have a backup system in place.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,686 posts)
2. When things don't happen as expected, sometimes people are tempted to think
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 05:32 PM
Feb 2020

there was a conspiracy, or at least some intentional misfeasance - but it's not a good idea to just assume malevolence when the most likely cause was incompetence. Occam's Razor. In Iowa some shitty, untested software couldn't handle the job. We'll find out before long what the vote totals were because there were paper ballots. There should always be paper ballots because when technology fails it makes a huge mess. But it wasn't caused by Russians or Republicans or Third Way Democrats or the Trilateral Commission or aliens.

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W_HAMILTON

(7,864 posts)
3. Fuck those Jill Stein supporters, Republicans, and some, I assume, are Russian.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 05:35 PM
Feb 2020

The voters in Iowa spoke, and what they said was far different from what those divisive internet trolls have been obnoxiously claiming over the past year.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Nitram

(22,800 posts)
4. Bluedye, that's exactly how I see it too.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 05:37 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
5. There are a few on DU trying to subtly push them...
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 06:12 PM
Feb 2020

but I agree it's nice to come here and get away from the barrage. Social media is flooded with it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Retrograde

(10,136 posts)
7. I wonder how many of these problems have been there all along
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 06:58 PM
Feb 2020

and are just coming to light now because this shiny new app is making people look at the paperwork more closely. From what I've read in this forum, there seem to be a lot more problems than software. I don't think there's any deep, dark conspiracy: it's more likely people not entirely clear on how the process works, with little to no training.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
8. That is why we need primaries with paper ballots.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 07:55 PM
Feb 2020

People vote, the vote gets counted, results get reported. We can work to secure voting machines, the notion that some push that we can't do that is nonsense.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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