Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumScenes from Bernie's dispirited would-be victory party
By HOLLY OTTERBEIN02/04/2020 09:53 PM EST
ABOARD BERNIE SANDERS CHARTER PLANE TO NEW HAMPSHIRE The political revolution was put on hold.
When Bernie Sanders campaign was preparing for a potential win in the first 2020 contest Monday, his aides and allies envisioned him giving a primetime victory speech, raising millions of dollars from small-dollar donors amid their ecstatic high, and savoring proving so many elites wrong at a party at the Holiday Inn.
Instead, Sanders and his senior aides found themselves working to reassure demoralized and shaken staffers and volunteers on Tuesday.
In a last-minute all-staff call around noon, Sanders campaign manager, Faiz Shakir, told aides that the Iowa Democratic Party had been incompetent and the delayed results were frustrating. But, he said, it was critical to appreciate what had just happened despite receiving the most negative news coverage of any 2020 campaign.
Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/04/scenes-bernie-would-be-victory-party-110791
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gracias, TT
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
krissey
(1,205 posts)Heads down, following Sanders with eyes, hand around their mouths.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)What a gift! Thanks for sharing krissey. Welcome.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sheshe2
(83,765 posts)Two days or seven years in, not hard to read his face.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The length of membership dig.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)That wasn't it. Thanks for your reply.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
dware
(12,378 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
dware
(12,378 posts)Hmmmm, I wonder why.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)Nope. Simple answer Danny you just don't seem like someone I want to engage with.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
You're funny.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
krissey
(1,205 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
dware
(12,378 posts)evasive about questioning your length of membership.
BTW, welcome to DU.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,230 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Just because you've only been here for a few days doesn't mean you don't know what you're talking about. People sometimes have a tendency to take their disappointment out on the wrong people. After all, it wasn't you who didn't meet certain expectations.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dware
(12,378 posts)That happened to me also, but, unbeknowest to the person, I first joined in 2001 when DU first started up, but life intervened and I had to take a 15 year hiatus.
After I made that reply, I didn't hear anything else from that person about my length of time here.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,230 posts)for so long!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
krissey
(1,205 posts)Then wow. Thank you.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,765 posts)A sincere welcome to DU.
Hang in there. It is not easy to be new here.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,921 posts)And are frustrated? Aren't all Dem candidates frustrated with Iowa and the clusterfuck there?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,230 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,242 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
msongs
(67,405 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,921 posts)Tied for first is not laying an egg.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Love-All
(63 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,230 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,230 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(112,189 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,230 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...he claimed 25,000 volunteers in Iowa, he got 45,000 votes - that's less than 2 votes per volunteer, INCLUDING those who would have voted for him anyway.
He touted a "massive grass roots movement" that generated less than 2 votes per worker. Plus, his self-proclaimed huge GOTV effort resulted in less than the turnout in 2016.
Those are two laid eggs of ostrich magnitude.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,258 posts)BS finished in the same place that he always finishes in Iowa.
Second.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,258 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
McKim
(2,412 posts)That was then, this is now. With the results of Iowa trickling in, I would say that Sanders is now on the upswing. I am hoping that he does well. Most of all, I hope The Democratic Party will listen to his supporters and incorporate his ideas into the platform. While Warren is my first choice, I like Sanders ideas and support him for what he wants to do for struggling Americans.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
krissey
(1,205 posts)It does not really matter where the numbers settle. Not going to be what he needs.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
You are killing me krissey
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)supporters are frantically trying to create, didn't it?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
krissey
(1,205 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,921 posts)Because he was the annointed one going into Iowa. And got 4th. I mean, he beat your choice. And Yang. So there's that. But Sanders is basically tied for first and, if the trends in these last precincts go the same, he'll win. So I think he's happy. Pete did great, for sure.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
krissey
(1,205 posts)Yes, it is fun to see Buttigieg do so well. I preferred Warren surprising us a bit with a better than expect performance but she did ok.
A caucus of young, white and rural is not Warren or Biden's demographic.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,230 posts)asserting.
Iowa isn't diverse enough for Biden's coalition.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
krissey
(1,205 posts)Who know how Iowa actually feels but after really learning about caucus watching Iowa Monday, so many Democrats were not able to vote on who they wanted. I find that appalling there is a process to pick a nominee by making it so very hard to vote for so many. It is what it is, but not reflective of what people want. Look at Washington in 2016. With the caucus Sanders won hands down. When people voted in the next round, Hillary won solidly and many many more people participated. This doesn't make sense to me.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,230 posts)to my post. It's not Democratic at all and does not "make sense".
Thank Goodness Washington State has switched to Primary Voting this year!
Thank you for your post, krissy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)I saw always had the others leading in Iowa.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
questionseverything
(9,654 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)You think he's "pretty happy?"
"I mean, he beat your choice."
Is that where you've landed in trying to make someone else shut up about your candidate not living up to their own and their supporters' hype?
It shows more fear of failure than confidence in the hype. You may want to get that fear under control....
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)And let's not pretend that anyone argued Biden would take the blue ribbon. That would be disingenuous of you at best.
IA was Bernie's to win. He didn't.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)enticed with free tuition
In some places, 75% of the attendees were college students
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
krissey
(1,205 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)No kids to find childcare for...no full timehourly job that they would need to get off...
As we've seen, primaries tell a very different story about candidates than caucuses.
And this one is a new story about a candidate who historically does best in caucuses for the reasons above...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,242 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,230 posts)someone.
Thank you again!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Response to Gothmog (Reply #9)
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,230 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)A two-term vice president under President Obama can place no better than fourth?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)But Biden can smile knowing that he's earning endorsements from his Senate colleagues, who like and respect him.
And Buttigieg can certainly smile knowing that he's pulling ahead of someone with a whole lot more name recognition and a far, far bigger email list than the candidate, and for whom an aura of inevitability is being desperately pushed all over the internets.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)But stop, everyone hated Iowa, she was awful, she isn't a 10, we never wanted Iowa......said the candidate that finished fourth. Corn pop!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LV487
(11 posts)is embarrassing. This is the guy who took on CornPop, should've been good for at least second place.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,230 posts)that had a low turnout.
Good on Pete, though!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,230 posts)He's resilient.. so no worries.
And, I'm actually happy for Pete!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,921 posts)oh, long way back, like last week, when all the talk was about how Biden was going to buy Sanders in Iowa. I don't remember "Iowa isn't important and it will be ok when Biden shits the bed." But, hey, link me to where you said that, or anything like that, and I'll admit I'm wrong.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,230 posts)he wasn't expected to win.
Your insults are not helping BS.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)get some big wins in swing a and Southern states. Still predicted that Biden will take many more states than Sanders and triumph in delegate numbers. Biden has wider appeal across the nation, AA support Sanders will never have (has not earned it), and his polling in swing and Southern states still shows him way ahead.
Biden also still leads nationally. We have had one state vote so far. No one has yet lost the nomination or sealed it. Bernie needed the win more than Biden. Should have been a natural at winning Iowa, especially at pulling ahead of a mayor who until recently did not have a national profile
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)two states that he doesn't need, right?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,242 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,230 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)and I am glad not to be on that plane.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Me.
(35,454 posts)Why is Jane always in the picture or on stage next to him?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
radical noodle
(8,000 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
calguy
(5,309 posts)And then super Tuesday. We'll know a lot more then. I don't think Bernie will be smiling then either.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,921 posts)It's really important who they want for President.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
calguy
(5,309 posts)Perhaps I misunderstood your comment.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,230 posts)Nominee.
They are the Democratic Party's most Loyal Base.. they always get out and VOTE in High NUMBERS!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(112,189 posts)It's discouraging to see DUers be so dismissive of voters. I'm in Texas so I can only surmise that you believe that my vote doesn't matter either.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,230 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,242 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,242 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,230 posts)and will be indicative of Biden's POC support throughout the Nation.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
katmondoo
(6,457 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)because that's the way someone who focused on saving the world is - they "don't tolerate bullshit," like saying "happy birthday" to someone.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)I'll be glad when the HORSE is put out to pasture.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,520 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(112,189 posts)A relative unknown managed to come to what is essentially a tie in a race that Bernie was supposed to win overwhelmingly. Looking at all of the money that Bernie spent in Iowa and the lackluster results, I would say that there is no joy in Mudville.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
murielm99
(30,741 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MontanaMama
(23,314 posts)Not trying to be sassy or anything...but thats what the guy looks like.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,242 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,230 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden