Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumNeed some help from someone from Iowa
Please help me understand how the leader in popular votes gets less delegates than the 2nd place finisher?
Is there some special method you use to make one person's vote more important than anothers?
Waiting quietly for your reply, thank you.
Vote Blue no matter who.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
4139
(1,893 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
jmg257
(11,996 posts)Well, party officials consult a master delegate apportionment list from Iowa Democrats to calculate. Heres the relevant bit:
First off, this particular precinct will choose 10 county convention delegates.
To get the county convention delegate result, then, you apply the final vote total proportionally and round where necessary.
Here, Bidens 32 supporters get him three delegates, Sanderss 28 get him three delegates, Warrens 24 get her two delegates, and Buttigiegs 16 also get him two delegates.
But then we have to change those county delegates to state delegate equivalents.
And it turns out that this precincts 10 county delegates would be worth, together, 0.78 of a state delegate.
So Biden and Sanders each get three-tenths of that (0.234 state delegate equivalents), Warren and Buttigieg would get two-tenths each (0.156 state delegate equivalents),
Those, then, are the state delegate equivalent results for this precinct.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)because caucus voters are a surrogate for the voting population.
image two equal sized districts with the same number of delegates to allocate
but one district has 2x as many people caucusing
district A 10,000 voters = 4 delegates, 100 caucusees. each caucusee vote = 4/100 of delegate
district B 10,000 voters, 4 delegates, 200 caucusees. each caucusee vote = 4/200 of a delegate
the alternative would be egregiously unfair.
imagine a state with 1,000,000 actual voters distributed over 100 districts and 100 delegates with one delegate per 1000 voters.
imagine each district has 1000 actual voters because all the districts are equal in size.
if you allocated based on caucusee rather than actual voters...it would be possible for that caucus to capture virtually 100% of the delegates even though that district was only entitled to one delegate based on voter distribution.
District 1 our greedy district gets 100% of its voters to caucus
All of the other districts get 2% of their voters to caucus.
So there would be 1000 + 99*2 caucuseer = 1198 in total
if 100% of district 1 voted for candidate A that candidate would have 1000 votes
if all of the other districts voted 100% for candidate B, then candidate B would have 198 votes.
So 1000 caucusee votes for candidate A get a total of 1 delegate because that is all district 1 is allocated based on the statewide number of voters
So 198 votes for candidate B get a total of 99 delegates, because each of those other districts gave 100% of their support to candidate B.
If however the system gave candidate A 84% of the candidates and all other districts a total of 16% of the candidates, then voters in every district but the greedy district would devalued in the system
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden