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highplainsdem

(48,976 posts)
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 11:14 AM Feb 2020

Here's why you shouldn't write off Joe Biden

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/02/06/heres-why-you-shouldnt-write-off-biden/


After noting, accurately, that "the reports of impending doom for Biden might be influenced just a tad by a press corps that has been predicting his political demise for nearly a year":


For one thing, New Hampshire voters famously do not take their lead from Iowa. (The New York Times points out, “Hillary Clinton won New Hampshire after losing Iowa in 2008, then did the exact opposite in 2016.”)

Second, both voters and the media love a “comeback” narrative, which Biden plainly embraced on Wednesday. Referring to the media accounts predicting his exit, Biden declared: "Well, I got news for them. I’m not going anywhere. And I’m counting on New Hampshire. We’re going to come back.” For Biden, playing the scrappy underdog comes naturally.

Third, as Republicans remember all too well from the 2012 vice presidential debate, Biden can be feisty and aggressive when he needs to be. In New Hampshire on Wednesday, Biden ridiculed the notion that a self-described socialist such as Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is electable. “Every Democrat will have to carry the label Sen. Sanders has chosen for himself,” Biden said. “I don’t criticize him. He calls himself a democratic socialist. Well, we’re already seeing what Donald Trump is going to do with that.” He also needled former South Bend, Ind., mayor Pete Buttigieg. “I do believe it’s a risk — to be just straight up with you — for this party to nominate someone who’s never held an office higher than mayor of a town of 100,000 people in Indiana,” he said. Biden has a shot in Friday’s debate to swing hard and show some life.

-snip-

Finally, every other candidate has problems as well. For Warren, New Hampshire is a must-win state where Sanders has a big advantage. Neither she nor Buttigieg has shown strong support among African Americans. Sanders didn’t bring in a ton of new voters into Iowa and did less well than Buttigieg in luring supporters of nonviable candidates to his camp for the second alignment. (His campaign has done such a good job of attacking his Democratic rivals that it is hardly surprising that the Sanders camp would do poorly in that regard.)
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Here's why you shouldn't write off Joe Biden (Original Post) highplainsdem Feb 2020 OP
LOL. Jennifer Rubin. She's a Republican, but at least she's predictable. DanTex Feb 2020 #1
So is David Sirota PatSeg Feb 2020 #6
Hillary hating David Sirota. No surprise that this comes from that __________ still_one Feb 2020 #12
Bless your little heart. You're kinda predicable too. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #20
Yes, I oppose Republicans predictably. And I also don't level ad hominem attacks. DanTex Feb 2020 #21
Talk about someone making predictable "irrelevant swipes", eh? bluewater Feb 2020 #23
pot? kettle? black? bluewater Feb 2020 #22
Thanks for posting Gothmog Feb 2020 #2
Neither state True Blue American Feb 2020 #5
Poor Rubin BeyondGeography Feb 2020 #3
ikr bluewater Feb 2020 #13
I find the ones writing off Joe Biden are LakeArenal Feb 2020 #4
I can tell you this much... world wide wally Feb 2020 #7
Biden gave an excellent town hall PatSeg Feb 2020 #8
NO! Here's why we shouldn't write off Joe Biden: Squinch Feb 2020 #9
If Joe loses to Pete in NH, Joe is done. bluewater Feb 2020 #10
We AAs will determine whether Joe is done. We won't allow states like Iowa and NH to dictate to us. Skya Rhen Feb 2020 #14
Joe needs a broad base of support to be viable. bluewater Feb 2020 #15
He's been done several times before Iowa treestar Feb 2020 #16
Iawo was just a bump in the road, yortsed snacilbuper Feb 2020 #11
Bloomberg and / or Pete Buttigieg are the new exciting faces in our 2020 elections, ... SWBTATTReg Feb 2020 #17
There's nothing "new" about Bloomberg.... LOL scheming daemons Feb 2020 #18
'New' is being new on the political front, nationwide. SWBTATTReg Feb 2020 #19
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
1. LOL. Jennifer Rubin. She's a Republican, but at least she's predictable.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 11:19 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

PatSeg

(47,430 posts)
6. So is David Sirota
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 11:30 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,190 posts)
12. Hillary hating David Sirota. No surprise that this comes from that __________
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 11:43 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
20. Bless your little heart. You're kinda predicable too.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 12:28 PM
Feb 2020

And that ain't a bad thing... you simply make consistently irrelevant swipes at any candidate who ain't a sacred cow.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
21. Yes, I oppose Republicans predictably. And I also don't level ad hominem attacks.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 12:31 PM
Feb 2020

Except at Republicans, and let's be honest, Republicans deserve ad hominem attacks.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
23. Talk about someone making predictable "irrelevant swipes", eh?
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 12:34 PM
Feb 2020


For some, it's a stock in trade. I would pay it no mind.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
5. Neither state
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 11:24 AM
Feb 2020

Symbolizes the Country. Both old and white.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
3. Poor Rubin
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 11:23 AM
Feb 2020

At least she can still get her digs in at Warren, which she enjoys almost as much as propping up Joe.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
4. I find the ones writing off Joe Biden are
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 11:24 AM
Feb 2020

The same ones been writing him off since before he announced.

Sorry to yell: but..

JOE BIDEN REMAINS THE MOST QUALIFIED BOTH NATIONALLY AND GLOBALLY!!!

That’s the one thing they can never take away.

Maybe someone else is as smart. Maybe someone is as quick witted. Maybe some one is just as friendly though I doubt it.

But no other candidate has the experience. Especially internationally.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

world wide wally

(21,743 posts)
7. I can tell you this much...
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 11:30 AM
Feb 2020

Iowa doesn't mean shit except to some talking heads on tv

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,430 posts)
8. Biden gave an excellent town hall
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 11:31 AM
Feb 2020

performance last night on CNN. Hopefully we'll see more of that Joe in coming days and weeks.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
9. NO! Here's why we shouldn't write off Joe Biden:
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 11:33 AM
Feb 2020

BECAUSE IT'S IOWA, FOR GOD'S SAKES!
1% of the total delegates.
Totally unrepresentative of the population.
IOWA!

Biden isn't my first choice, but anyone who thinks IOWA decides anything is off their rocker!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
10. If Joe loses to Pete in NH, Joe is done.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 11:36 AM
Feb 2020

He simply would have no excuse to lose to Buttigieg again, this time in a neutral state with a primary.



Well, good luck to Joe and his supporters going forward.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
14. We AAs will determine whether Joe is done. We won't allow states like Iowa and NH to dictate to us.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 11:53 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
15. Joe needs a broad base of support to be viable.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 11:57 AM
Feb 2020

He has to do well across all demographics to be viable.

His support is very strong with African-American voters at the present time, but he is performing poorly otherwise.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
16. He's been done several times before Iowa
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 12:03 PM
Feb 2020

Several times since he entered the race.

Also all his support is just name recognition.

I would think Warren is just as much toast if she does not win NH.

We are just like talking heads here, spinning wheels over the latest thing that happened.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
11. Iawo was just a bump in the road,
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 11:42 AM
Feb 2020

Joe will come back stronger.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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SWBTATTReg

(22,122 posts)
17. Bloomberg and / or Pete Buttigieg are the new exciting faces in our 2020 elections, ...
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 12:20 PM
Feb 2020

and I think he and/or Bloomberg would generate a lot of positives for our democratic nominees for office in Nov. 2020.

Both Bloomberg and Buttigieg have had experiences in dealing w/ a diverse population being mayors of cities/towns (while Biden is downplaying Pete B.'s experience as mayor (and probably Bloomberg's too, IMHO)).

In the real world, a mayor has to deal with a lot more than just being 'mayor'. They have to deal w/ numerous local, state, and federal, and international entities, all usually without anyone else's help, and on the front lines, face to face, no delegating to someone else to get things done.

After all, immigrants and other minorities do tend to live in urban areas, and both of these candidates do have a lot of relevant experiences.




If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
18. There's nothing "new" about Bloomberg.... LOL
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 12:23 PM
Feb 2020

Bloomberg has the money to take on Trump. And that's not nothing.


But he's not a "new face". He's literally the oldest candidate in the race.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

SWBTATTReg

(22,122 posts)
19. 'New' is being new on the political front, nationwide.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 12:25 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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