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RandySF

(58,768 posts)
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 10:19 PM Feb 2020

'White male privilege': Top N.H. women fume over Buttigieg's Iowa speech

MANCHESTER, N.H. — Pete Buttigieg returned to New Hampshire this week riding a wave of momentum generated by his surprisingly strong Iowa finish. But he was greeted by pushback from some of the most powerful women in the state, who saw a double standard in his declaration of victory in Iowa late Monday.

In their view, the 38-year-old mayor’s unexpected assertion — a calculated political statement delivered without any accompanying evidence at the time — smacked of “white male privilege,” “hubris” and a lack of equanimity that a female candidate would be criticized for.

“In a moment where he should show composure and measure, he’s not doing that,” said Jenn Alford-Teaster, a Sen. Elizabeth Warren supporter and Democratic activist running for state Senate. ”But he’s going to get away with it because that’s what happens when you’re a man. You can do whatever you want. For women, we’re held to a different standard and it’s demoralizing as a candidate and it’s demoralizing as a voter.”

In his speech to supporters in Des Moines on Monday night, Buttigieg went beyond where any of his rivals were willing to go in the wake of the vote-counting debacle, essentially claiming first place based on what his campaign said were internal numbers showing him edging out Sen. Bernie Sanders. He might be right — the Iowa Democratic Party is still trying to figure out the official winner. But even without those results, his performance exceeded expectations.

“We don’t know all the results,” is how he started his speech, looking downwards with a slight grin. “But we know by the time it’s all said and done, Iowa, you have shocked the nation, because by all indications, we are going on to New Hampshire victorious.”



https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/06/buttigieg-iowa-new-hampshire-women-111746

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'White male privilege': Top N.H. women fume over Buttigieg's Iowa speech (Original Post) RandySF Feb 2020 OP
What? . . . . Iliyah Feb 2020 #1
What? Croney Feb 2020 #2
This kind of thing turns me off. madaboutharry Feb 2020 #3
Doesnt just turn you off; lots of folks oldsoftie Feb 2020 #8
And now with the results in...it's a FACT. nt UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #10
This is peak stupid. Loki Liesmith Feb 2020 #4
... SMC22307 Feb 2020 #20
Really?? How about Bernie? It just sounds like typical campaign rhetoric. 58Sunliner Feb 2020 #5
"Lighten up, Francis". nt oldsoftie Feb 2020 #6
I am really beyond sick of this dsc Feb 2020 #7
What smacks of white male privilege? Talk about over reach Ms. Jenn whoever a UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #9
This is how we lose. N/t Mz Pip Feb 2020 #11
He won, 100% reporting Pisces Feb 2020 #12
He's guilty of giving an upbeat speech?? DeeDeeNY Feb 2020 #13
What a petty, wrongheaded criticism of Buttigieg. And this doesn't help ANY female highplainsdem Feb 2020 #14
Whatever helps one cope I guess Devil Child Feb 2020 #15
While white male privilege certainly is a a serious problem but ismnotwasm Feb 2020 #16
He did do a lot of chest thumping. Sanders and Pete are tied by all accounts FloridaBlues Feb 2020 #17
Well, he's got a kinda cocky personality. He and his supporters can crow all they like, but emmaverybo Feb 2020 #18
+1. Buttigieg is the least qualified among all candidates dalton99a Feb 2020 #21
I think he believes his intelligence, life experience, personal charisma enables him to skip over emmaverybo Feb 2020 #22
Oh for God's sake. SMC22307 Feb 2020 #19
 

madaboutharry

(40,207 posts)
3. This kind of thing turns me off.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 10:25 PM
Feb 2020

It isn’t “White Male Privilege.” It is confidence. There is a difference.

Women need more confidence. There, I fixed it.

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oldsoftie

(12,531 posts)
8. Doesnt just turn you off; lots of folks
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 10:28 PM
Feb 2020

And i wouldnt doubt you get alerted for that simple sentence............

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UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
10. And now with the results in...it's a FACT. nt
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 10:30 PM
Feb 2020
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58Sunliner

(4,381 posts)
5. Really?? How about Bernie? It just sounds like typical campaign rhetoric.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 10:26 PM
Feb 2020

I love Warren, but I don't see the issue in this case.

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oldsoftie

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6. "Lighten up, Francis". nt
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 10:27 PM
Feb 2020
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dsc

(52,155 posts)
7. I am really beyond sick of this
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 10:27 PM
Feb 2020

women have been protected by federal law since 1964. Gay men still aren't. Women have been able to serve in the military since at least the 1940's gay men since 2010. Women, at least straight one, could marry the person of their choice since well since a long time, gay men 2015. Now as to the merits. He fucking won. 100% in and he fucking won. On what planet doesn't he get to say, it looks like we won (which is what he said), have it turn out that he fucking won, and somehow that is wrong.

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UniteFightBack

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9. What smacks of white male privilege? Talk about over reach Ms. Jenn whoever a
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 10:29 PM
Feb 2020

Warren supporter/activist.

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Mz Pip

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11. This is how we lose. N/t
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 10:33 PM
Feb 2020
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Pisces

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12. He won, 100% reporting
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 10:33 PM
Feb 2020
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DeeDeeNY

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13. He's guilty of giving an upbeat speech??
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 10:34 PM
Feb 2020
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highplainsdem

(48,968 posts)
14. What a petty, wrongheaded criticism of Buttigieg. And this doesn't help ANY female
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 10:38 PM
Feb 2020

candidates.

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Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
15. Whatever helps one cope I guess
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 10:41 PM
Feb 2020

However, claiming white male privilege probably won’t translate into more votes.

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ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
16. While white male privilege certainly is a a serious problem but
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 10:46 PM
Feb 2020

This isn’t an example of it


I had to explain to my husband that the pay gap is still real. He thought it was all better.

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FloridaBlues

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17. He did do a lot of chest thumping. Sanders and Pete are tied by all accounts
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 10:55 PM
Feb 2020

what a mess Iowa !

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emmaverybo

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18. Well, he's got a kinda cocky personality. He and his supporters can crow all they like, but
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 11:02 PM
Feb 2020

Buttigieg Is a long way from the nomination. Let him have his sugar-high. May give momentum that turns into a durable lead, which would certainly be surprising, more likely Iowa and NH not accurate barometers in the longer run.

Amy managed to assert. Warren can still come back and she’s no shrinking violet. Pete might be compensating for inexperience. He sure has made mistakes.

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dalton99a

(81,451 posts)
21. +1. Buttigieg is the least qualified among all candidates
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 11:41 PM
Feb 2020

The mayor has zero work experience at the county/state/federal level


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emmaverybo

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22. I think he believes his intelligence, life experience, personal charisma enables him to skip over
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 11:53 PM
Feb 2020

that dreary resume-building and go straight to the top. Well then, voters have only his mayoral record to go by.

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SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
19. Oh for God's sake.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 11:38 PM
Feb 2020

We are going to fucking lose in November 2020 if this NEVER-ENDING whining keeps up.

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