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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 01:51 AM Feb 2020

Buttigieg surging in NH, Warren now in the Top Three.





Amazing surge by Buttigieg at +12 moves him 1% behind Sanders who had no change.

A large drop for Biden (-7) allows Warren to slip into 3rd place by holding steady.


Yes, I highlighted the good news for my candidate. lol

Warren needs to both finish in the top 3 AND beat Biden. This poll has her doing just that.

Will the NH results turn out the same as in Iowa? Seems possible.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Buttigieg surging in NH, Warren now in the Top Three. (Original Post) bluewater Feb 2020 OP
Time will tell! This is fascinating. CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2020 #1
Hard to see how my candidate survives past Tuesday scheming daemons Feb 2020 #2
There's plenty of time left. Laelth Feb 2020 #8
The problem is that the money dries up quickly..... scheming daemons Feb 2020 #13
Perhaps. But Amy has a good bit in the bank. Laelth Feb 2020 #24
Biden desperately needs to come in 2nd, or for Buttigieg to win New Hampshire. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #3
Biden needs to win SC, imo. Laelth Feb 2020 #9
NH ain't Biden's demographic. Throwing good money after bad ain't rational... LanternWaste Feb 2020 #11
THIS!!!! Biden has never had the NH vote in my opinion Peacetrain Feb 2020 #29
Frankly, I do NOT consider BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #4
I think it *is* JYO, and not fact. It's a perfectly reasonably opinion to have. But alternatively... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #7
Son of a gun.. NH is an open Primary?? Peacetrain Feb 2020 #30
Bernie, Pete And Warren will beat up Biden again as his numbers drop even lower , duforsure Feb 2020 #5
Joe has to turn that around in the next few days or he's done. Kentonio Feb 2020 #6
You do if you're Joe Biden. Laelth Feb 2020 #10
What if he also does badly in Nevada? bluewater Feb 2020 #14
He'll be fine. Laelth Feb 2020 #20
Nevada is only 67% white and has a 9% Black pop too. bluewater Feb 2020 #22
No you don't. Kentonio Feb 2020 #16
His funding is the big problem, admittedly. Laelth Feb 2020 #21
True it is, but momentum is real and plays a massive role Kentonio Feb 2020 #23
I don't think he will have a good showing until SC. Laelth Feb 2020 #25
If those races are predominantly white (as they have been and are) it's a non-issue. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #12
"my guess" bluewater Feb 2020 #15
Biden needs to show he's electable everywhere, not just in the south. Kentonio Feb 2020 #17
especialy since Nevada is only 67% white and has a 9% African American pop. too. bluewater Feb 2020 #19
Plus Biden will start losing more donors, and he needs their money to continue on. n/t zackymilly Feb 2020 #26
It's reported Biden is so short on funds, being able to fly to Super Tuesday States is an issue. bluewater Feb 2020 #28
Cool! ismnotwasm Feb 2020 #18
In which primary Mike the multi-Billionaire records first win? at140 Feb 2020 #27
 

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,560 posts)
1. Time will tell! This is fascinating.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 01:59 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
2. Hard to see how my candidate survives past Tuesday
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 02:01 AM
Feb 2020

I hope she throws her support behind Joe or Pete.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
8. There's plenty of time left.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 11:15 AM
Feb 2020

I don't imagine that any candidate that has made it this far will drop out before Super Tuesday. We shall see what we see, but we've only decided 41 (out of 4,000) delegates at this point, and the final count on those delegates is still up in the air. It is no time to despair.

-Laelth

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
13. The problem is that the money dries up quickly.....
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 11:41 AM
Feb 2020

...if she doesn't finish in the top 3.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
24. Perhaps. But Amy has a good bit in the bank.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 01:54 PM
Feb 2020

She can survive through Super Tuesday. After that, we shall see what we see.

-Laelth

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Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
3. Biden desperately needs to come in 2nd, or for Buttigieg to win New Hampshire.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 02:19 AM
Feb 2020

He needs a strong showing or for Sanders to lose. Otherwise, I think he's done.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
9. Biden needs to win SC, imo.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 11:16 AM
Feb 2020

If he can do that, he's still in the running, no matter what happens in NH or NV.

-Laelth

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
11. NH ain't Biden's demographic. Throwing good money after bad ain't rational...
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 11:20 AM
Feb 2020

I don't think Biden's campaign is counting on these early, predominantly white states, and I haven't seen any real indications otherwise.

My guess is his campaign takes off when early voting in TN, et. al. begins next week.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,873 posts)
29. THIS!!!! Biden has never had the NH vote in my opinion
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 02:42 PM
Feb 2020

From day one, NH is not his. God if he did well in NH, the Iowa caucus would be just disappear. I have just never seen it. He has to do well in SC absolutely has to.. NV caucus.. just seems like Bernie or Petes territory. I still think Super Tuesday will sort it all out.. We are going to know here in a few short weeks

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
4. Frankly, I do NOT consider
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 04:47 AM
Feb 2020

NH to be a sampling of how real Democrats will vote.

It is an open primary.

If it were a closed primary, it would be MUCH more valid when considering who should be the Democratic nominee.

This is not JMO. It is fact.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

thesquanderer

(11,982 posts)
7. I think it *is* JYO, and not fact. It's a perfectly reasonably opinion to have. But alternatively...
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 10:39 AM
Feb 2020

...you could make the argument that including independents is "more valid when considering who should be the Democratic nominee" IF your goal is to put up a candidate who appeals to Dems and Independents... which, by the way, is what is necessary in order to win in November.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,873 posts)
30. Son of a gun.. NH is an open Primary??
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 02:44 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
5. Bernie, Pete And Warren will beat up Biden again as his numbers drop even lower ,
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 06:33 AM
Feb 2020

And his donors start drying up as more people turn away from him. He's also hurting himself with some of his policies and poor speaking performances. I like Joe , but he'll never be the candidate I think. If he is I 100% would vote for him, or whoever wins the primaries, but he's not my 1st, 2nd, or 3rd choice.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
6. Joe has to turn that around in the next few days or he's done.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 06:43 AM
Feb 2020

You don't come in 4th in the first two races and still come out looking electable.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
10. You do if you're Joe Biden.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 11:19 AM
Feb 2020

He still leads in national polls. Iowa and New Hampshire are not representative of the party as a whole. Biden needs to win South Carolina. If he loses there, he's finished. With that hypothesis I can agree.

-Laelth

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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
14. What if he also does badly in Nevada?
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 11:43 AM
Feb 2020

That comes before SC.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Laelth

(32,017 posts)
20. He'll be fine.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 01:49 PM
Feb 2020

And it's likely that Bernie will win in NV. Joe just has to win in SC. If he does, he'll pick up a ton of delegates on Super Tuesday. He and his supporters must simply be patient. It is far too early to panic.

-Laelth

If I were to vote in a presidential
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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
22. Nevada is only 67% white and has a 9% Black pop too.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 01:51 PM
Feb 2020

The other 25% is Latino and Asian.

If Pete beats Joe in Iowa, the Biden Campaign will have no excuses.


If I were to vote in a presidential
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Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
16. No you don't.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 01:08 PM
Feb 2020

We’re already hearing reports about his donors getting nervous, he needs a decent finish in NH. Not a win necessarily but certainly not 4th again. If he comes in 4th, panic will start setting in and it bodes very badly for Nevada. He’ll probably win SC regardless of what happens, but his expected massive win there could turn into something much less convincing very quickly if the first three races have all gone very badly.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
21. His funding is the big problem, admittedly.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 01:51 PM
Feb 2020

But a win in SC and a decent showing on Super Tuesday can erase all of the current panic about his campaign. It's still early days in this nomination season.

-Laelth

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
23. True it is, but momentum is real and plays a massive role
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 01:54 PM
Feb 2020

He needs some back, badly.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
25. I don't think he will have a good showing until SC.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 02:03 PM
Feb 2020

I don't see Joe gaining any momentum until then. In fact, he should expect defeats in both NH and NV.

-Laelth

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
12. If those races are predominantly white (as they have been and are) it's a non-issue.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 11:24 AM
Feb 2020

IA was Bernie's to walk away with a commanding victory and he simply dropped the ball. It's not a good sign for his campaign to grade the Minimum Required as excellent.

My guess is Biden will get the EVs as early votes begin in states more representative of the nation as a whole and less homogeneous as are NH and IA.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
15. "my guess"
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 11:49 AM
Feb 2020

Well, thanks for being honest about your analysis.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
17. Biden needs to show he's electable everywhere, not just in the south.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 01:10 PM
Feb 2020

Winning SC after getting blown out in Iowa, NH and Nevada would not convince people he’s the most electable candidate we have.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
19. especialy since Nevada is only 67% white and has a 9% African American pop. too.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 01:40 PM
Feb 2020

And of course, a large Latino population.

If Biden can't win on Nevada, he has no excuse.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

zackymilly

(2,375 posts)
26. Plus Biden will start losing more donors, and he needs their money to continue on. n/t
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 02:28 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
28. It's reported Biden is so short on funds, being able to fly to Super Tuesday States is an issue.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 02:41 PM
Feb 2020

ouch.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ismnotwasm

(41,971 posts)
18. Cool!
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 01:16 PM
Feb 2020

This is turning out far more interesting than I thought

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

at140

(6,110 posts)
27. In which primary Mike the multi-Billionaire records first win?
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 02:38 PM
Feb 2020

With the money he is spending, he is likely to win a few on super Tuesday.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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