Democratic Primaries
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New York MagazinePete Buttigieg wasnt expecting to be on Day Two of his own victory lap on Wednesday when he touched down in New Jersey for a trio of private fundraisers and a New York media swing, suddenly gone from the state up north where he was the big story after declaring victory in the midwest. Internally, his team had been framing the plan more cautiously: Hed use a mad sprint through New Hampshire on Tuesday to announce himself there before briefly leaving the trail to refill campaign coffers that would likely need replenishing after an Iowa slog, and with an expensive, forbidding road ahead.
For Elizabeth Warren, ceding national media attention after Iowa to her fellow senator, the former mayor, and the suddenly flailing Joe Biden was never part of the meticulously laid roadmap, and neither was facing the imperative of shifting ad money out of Nevada and South Carolina to make sure her New Hampshire strategy was adequately funded or having her campaign manager dramatically call out Buttigiegs team for apparently instructing a super PAC on how best to boost him. Her best case scenario, after all, didnt position New Hampshire, her next-door state, as being quite so make-or-break as it now looks.
And Biden, sitting in Delaware, nearly 400 miles south of Manchester conferring with senior aides after a brutal finish in Iowa, had planned to be prepping for Fridays debate, and not facing an unrelenting barrage of savage news coverage while confronting what his advisors were describing as a meltdown of his field operation so complete that they were now evaluating his Nevada organization to avoid another costly embarrassment. Moving whatever remaining ad money he had from South Carolina to Nevada wasnt the plan, either, and neither was letting his Thursday off the trail turn into a glaring hole in his schedule just as news surfaced that some leaders of his Iowa team would no longer have full-time gigs with the campaign all of it landing so painfully, just after he started showing signs of life with a fiery first two days in New Hampshire.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)Pete is now suddenly, at the very least, the co-frontrunner now with Sanders.
Joe is in shambles after months of being the polling frontrunner, he's being haunted by the ghosts of his previous failed Presidential campaigns.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,496 posts)Some people really really need to read up on Iowa caucus history.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)Right now, Joe is on track to do just that.
Shambles seems both accurate and descriptive to describe the current state of the Biden Campaign that led in the polling by double digits for months on end.
Then actual voting starts and it all goes to pieces. Just like his other failed Presidential campaigns. That is some history well worth re-examining.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,496 posts)Then served two terms.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)That guy "came back" to get a strong second place in NH.
Finishing 4th in both Iowa and New Hampshire will take the wheels off a struggling Biden Campaign.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,496 posts)Ok my bad he should drop out.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)But lets be honest about this. Warren cannot afford to finish in 4th place either. Biden certainly can't and right now he's on track to finish 4th again like he did in Iowa.
He dropped -7% in yesterday's tracking poll. People said Iowa would not matter much and those people were wrong.
But, Ok, I take your point. Joe has not finished 4th in NH yet.
Time will Tell, but that time is short since the NH primary is days away.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,496 posts)Just a realist then.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)South Carolina is an atypical state, but for some reason people don't mention that.
66% of Democratic primary voters there are set to be African Americans, that's a much higher % than any other state, even other Southern states. Doing well or poorly in SC is indicative of only one thing, and that is the level of support a candidate has with black voters.
How that translates in states with a more balance demographic this year remains to be seen. Latino voters are set to be a major factor in the primaries this year too, and it's Nevada that will be an indicator for that, not SC. Latino support will be crucial in the big delegate states of California and Texas.
Nevada is more indicative of possible national trends than SC. Nevada is only 67% white and has a 9% African American population itself.
It's do or die time for both Warren and Biden. NH, Nevada and SC are all important contest for them. Doing poorly in a majority of those will probably knock any candidate out of contention.
But one last thing... where will our support go if our candidate does fall out of contention?
I want a candidate that can beat Trump but also shares more of my views. I am not sure who that second choice is at this point. Strangely, it comes down to either Biden or Sanders.
Care to share your second choice of candidates in contention and that could beat Trump?
Thanks for the discussion.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,496 posts)Ty
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,362 posts)Arguably he may have been prepping for tonight's debate, but everyone else was doing public events.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brush
(53,743 posts)The two nearly all-white voter bases of Iowa and NH don't tell the true story of what will happen in SC, NV and Super Tuesday were there is diversity in the voter base.
If South Carolina or Nevada were first the results would be completely different so don't be so quick to write Biden off.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)I get texts from volunteers from the campaigns. Steyer. Bernie. Warren. Amy. For months.
Know what campaign has never texted me....Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden