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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 12:01 AM Feb 2020

Someone said Amy took a swipe at Pete and mentioned cartoons?

What was that about?


On edit - Thanks for all the info. I missed that in her comments and had no idea what they were referring to.

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Someone said Amy took a swipe at Pete and mentioned cartoons? (Original Post) redqueen Feb 2020 OP
She said that Pete had mentioned something about it being so hard to watch the impeachment highplainsdem Feb 2020 #1
Pete had said during the hearings mainstreetonce Feb 2020 #2
Pete said something about being bored by the impeachment process and changing channel to cartoons Awsi Dooger Feb 2020 #3
In the context too of her strong and emotional praise for the heroic testimony--she was referencing emmaverybo Feb 2020 #12
Here: dalton99a Feb 2020 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author emmaverybo Feb 2020 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author mobeau69 Feb 2020 #16
Actually no - she took it out of context FreeState Feb 2020 #23
Yes. I made another comment after I learned the facts. Will delete this one. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #28
Thanks mahina Feb 2020 #30
Yikes. Spanked him and sent him to bed early. BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #21
Article at The Hill about what Amy said tonight. Still haven't found an old article on what Pete highplainsdem Feb 2020 #5
Here DesertRat Feb 2020 #6
Primary politics. ntn JoeOtterbein Feb 2020 #7
The Times calls it a total misrepresentation of what he said frazzled Feb 2020 #8
Thank you for that radical noodle Feb 2020 #13
Yeah, I generally like Amy frazzled Feb 2020 #17
Wow. I didn't know. I trust Amy somehow and yeah I find Buttigieg kinda smart alecky, a bit emmaverybo Feb 2020 #18
It's a primary swipe. Amimnoch Feb 2020 #34
"Disingenuous" is the problem. Like her too. She was sharp, engaging, and convincing in debate emmaverybo Feb 2020 #37
Or she could repeat her lie and get away with it. StevieM Feb 2020 #22
LOL, what? RhodeIslandOne Feb 2020 #26
She implied that he blithely dismissed the hearings, but unless he made a different remark off emmaverybo Feb 2020 #31
Thank you, frazzled! Cha Feb 2020 #15
And it was n/t FreeState Feb 2020 #24
Something about the Impeachment hearings and he found them boring. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author emmaverybo Feb 2020 #32
Raw Story article last month with Pete's full quote: highplainsdem Feb 2020 #10
Pete was talking about voters, not himself Celerity Feb 2020 #11
Some are beginning to see Pete as a threat (after Iowa) not_the_one Feb 2020 #19
the NYT just called her out for it nt Celerity Feb 2020 #20
"Way to go, democrats" RhodeIslandOne Feb 2020 #27
She came across well when she said it, but after reading the actual quote democrattotheend Feb 2020 #25
Pete's full quote: AngelicaHora Feb 2020 #29
Quick question - did Pete reference cartoons more than once badhair77 Feb 2020 #33
I am really saddened by this. madaboutharry Feb 2020 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Feb 2020 #36
no, a complete out of context chop job by Klobuchar Celerity Feb 2020 #38
 

highplainsdem

(48,970 posts)
1. She said that Pete had mentioned something about it being so hard to watch the impeachment
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 12:03 AM
Feb 2020

trial he wanted to watch cartoons.

She was chiding him for wanting to look away from the hard work of the Senate.

I'll look for that quote of Pete's. I didn't hear about it earlier.

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mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
2. Pete had said during the hearings
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 12:04 AM
Feb 2020

That he was bored with the hearings on TV and wanted to switch the channel and watch cartoons.

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Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
3. Pete said something about being bored by the impeachment process and changing channel to cartoons
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 12:05 AM
Feb 2020

I forget the exact quote but it was along those lines. Amy said something about it being easy to sit back and criticize, and play the outsider role time and again, but real necessary work is being done in those proceedings.

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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
12. In the context too of her strong and emotional praise for the heroic testimony--she was referencing
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 12:14 AM
Feb 2020

Pete’s dismissal of Washington old hat insiders and it’s a new day of biz only inexperienced young
mayor’s like himself can handle. She ate him for breakfast and it didn’t seem trying to score points. It was like ok smart Alec quiz kid here’s the real stuff...

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dalton99a

(81,455 posts)
4. Here:
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 12:05 AM
Feb 2020
BUTTIGIEG: Those achievements were phenomenally important — because they met the moment. But now we have to meet this moment. And this moment is different. The next president is going to face challenges from global health security, like what we’re seeing coming out of China, to cybersecurity and election security challenges that were barely thought of a few years ago. And here at home, we’re seeing things like gig work transform what it means to be a worker in America in ways that were barely conceived of that long ago.

We cannot solve the problems before us by looking back. We have to be ready to turn the page and change our politics before it’s too late. And I’m seeing everywhere I go not just fellow Democrats, but a striking number of independents and what I like to call future former Republicans, ready to join in that historic American majority to turn the page.

KLOBUCHAR: I am listening to this about meeting the moment, and my first thought is, I’m a fresh face up here for a presidential debate. And I figure, Pete, that 59 — my age — is the new 38 up here.

The second thing I think about is this: And that is meeting the moment. We had a moment the last few weeks, Mayor, and that moment was these impeachment hearings. And there was a lot of courage that you saw from only a few people. There was courage from Doug Jones, our friend from Alabama, who took that tough vote. There was courage from Mitt Romney, who took a very, very difficult vote. There was courage, as I read today, about Lt. Col. Vindman being escorted out of the White House. What he did took courage.

But what you said, Pete, as you were campaigning through Iowa, as three of us were jurors in that impeachment hearing — you said it was exhausting to watch and that you wanted to turn the channel and watch cartoons.

It is easy to go after Washington because that’s a popular thing to do. It is much harder — as I see Senator Shaheen, in the front row, such a leader — it is much harder to lead, and much harder to take those difficult positions. Because I think this going after every single thing that people do, because it’s popular to say and makes you look like a cool newcomer — I just, I don’t think that’s what people want right now.

We have a newcomer in the White House, and look where it got us. I think having some experience is a good thing.
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FreeState

(10,570 posts)
23. Actually no - she took it out of context
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 02:42 AM
Feb 2020
https://mobile.twitter.com/saletan/status/1226001590869536769

Tonight Klobuchar flatly misrepresented what Buttigieg said about cartoons.

Here's the context. He said voters mustn't give in to the temptation to "switch it off and walk away."

That's the *opposite* of what she alleges.

See 11 minutes into this video: http://bit.ly/37eUnEY
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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
28. Yes. I made another comment after I learned the facts. Will delete this one.
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 03:29 AM
Feb 2020
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mahina

(17,646 posts)
30. Thanks
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 03:38 AM
Feb 2020

I like Amy and will be interested to see how she responds to this correction of fact.

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BusyBeingBest

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21. Yikes. Spanked him and sent him to bed early.
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 02:09 AM
Feb 2020
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highplainsdem

(48,970 posts)
5. Article at The Hill about what Amy said tonight. Still haven't found an old article on what Pete
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 12:05 AM
Feb 2020
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DesertRat

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6. Here
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 12:07 AM
Feb 2020
"Mayor Pete, while 3 of us were jurors in the impeachment hearing...you said you wanted to turn the channel and watch cartoons.

It's easy to go after Washington. It's much harder to lead.

We have a newcomer in the White House. Look where it got us."



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frazzled

(18,402 posts)
8. The Times calls it a total misrepresentation of what he said
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 12:08 AM
Feb 2020
Fact Check: Ms. Klobuchar distorted comments made by Mr. Buttigieg about the impeachment trial.

Ms. Klobuchar: “But what you said Pete as you were campaigning through Iowa as three of us were jurors in the impeachment hearing you said it was exhausting to watch and that you wanted to turn the channel and watch cartoons.”

This is misleading. Ms. Klobuchar was likely referring to remarks made by Mr. Buttigieg recently on the campaign trail. But he was criticizing Senate Republicans and urging voters to not “give in” to that sense of exhaustion.

“It can be exhausting,” he said of the impeachment trial at one January event in Iowa. “A process in Washington where the Senate GOP is telling us this is going to be a foregone conclusion. It’s almost designed, I think, to make us feel so beaten down that you want to just pick up the remote and change to cartoons because it’s punching you in the face all the time.”

“But if we give in to that, of course, that’s how cynicism wins,” he continued. “And the great thing about being alive and being eligible to vote in the year 2020 is that this is our opportunity to send a different message.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/07/us/politics/democratic-debate-tonight.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
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radical noodle

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13. Thank you for that
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 12:15 AM
Feb 2020

I thought she was better than that. I guess I was wrong.

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frazzled

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17. Yeah, I generally like Amy
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 12:24 AM
Feb 2020

and think she’s a star debater. But she has an dark side, too. This wasn’t a misstatement; it was clearly a well planned attack. And she had to know it was a gross distortion of what he said. (I happened to have heard it on television, so I immediately sensed it was a false attack.)

Attacks are fine, but they have to be fair and based on fact. People are going to believe he said this, and it will be repeated. That’s Trump tactics. She needs to retract and apologize, or lose credibility.

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emmaverybo

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18. Wow. I didn't know. I trust Amy somehow and yeah I find Buttigieg kinda smart alecky, a bit
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 01:03 AM
Feb 2020

glib. Shows me I need to investigate before jumping to conclusions. Could she have misinterpreted? Didn’t seem planned. Oh, I misunderstood. He was speaking on the record. Then surely he didn’t mean to say what she implied. So she used words out of context against him. That’s not right, but I get her reaction to how he sets himself up against the old Washington insiders when he’s relatively an upstart.

This, totally recasting what he’d related to make him look callous and immature, was not a good
tactic.


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Amimnoch

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34. It's a primary swipe.
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 07:11 AM
Feb 2020

I'd rather they were all just focusing on Trump the way Bloomberg is, and whichever candidate does the best job gets the votes.. not good to be going after each other like this with so much on the line..

but I also realize it's how primaries go.. still like Amy as well despite the disingenuous swipe.

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emmaverybo

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37. "Disingenuous" is the problem. Like her too. She was sharp, engaging, and convincing in debate
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 02:16 PM
Feb 2020

without needing to spin Pete’s interview. She implied he had a frivolous, immature, and utterly disrespectful response to Dem’s fight to preserve our democracy when, in fact, he expressed exactly the opposite.

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StevieM

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22. Or she could repeat her lie and get away with it.
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 02:15 AM
Feb 2020

That happens a lot.

Amy is the media darling. They will let her get away with anything.

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RhodeIslandOne

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26. LOL, what?
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 03:20 AM
Feb 2020

That's laughable.

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emmaverybo

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31. She implied that he blithely dismissed the hearings, but unless he made a different remark off
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 03:45 AM
Feb 2020

the record, in an interview he conveyed how intense it is to watch, so much so you want to change the channel.

He implied the seriousness of these hearings, momentous historically—in effect saying they are a terrible train wreck you can’t look away from though you wish you could.

I paraphrase completely. She wasn’t close to the sentiment he conveyed, opposite completely to the light she depicted it in.

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Cha

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15. Thank you, frazzled!
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 12:17 AM
Feb 2020
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sheshe2

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9. Something about the Impeachment hearings and he found them boring.
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 12:08 AM
Feb 2020

That he said he would rather watch cartoons.

I had to leave and did not hear his response.

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highplainsdem

(48,970 posts)
10. Raw Story article last month with Pete's full quote:
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 12:11 AM
Feb 2020
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/the-views-meghan-mccain-erupts-after-she-gets-called-out-for-being-bored-by-impeachment/


The show’s producers rolled video of Buttigieg speaking during a campaign stop.

“If you are watching the news right now, if you’re watching what I’m watching right now, and feeling exhausted — I know I am,” Buttigieg said. “I live and breathe politics, and I feel exhausted. It just gets you down, it makes you want to watch cartoons instead.”
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Celerity

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11. Pete was talking about voters, not himself
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 12:12 AM
Feb 2020

Wouldn’t it be nice to see the end of “the chaos” and “the tweets,” Pete Buttigieg says in Indianola, Iowa, as he speaks on Simpson College campus to 200+; about 1/4 look like students. People exhausted by Trump; they want to “switch it off and just watch cartoons or something."



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not_the_one

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19. Some are beginning to see Pete as a threat (after Iowa)
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 01:16 AM
Feb 2020

so the candidates will play dirty pool to get him (thanks, Amy, you sure know how to cherry pick and misrepresent what he said, frankly it is beneath you), and other candidate's supporters will jump on the band wagon and continue to spread the misrepresentation.

Way to go, democrats.

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Celerity

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20. the NYT just called her out for it nt
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 01:30 AM
Feb 2020
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RhodeIslandOne

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27. "Way to go, democrats"
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 03:21 AM
Feb 2020

You don't include yourself as one?

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democrattotheend

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25. She came across well when she said it, but after reading the actual quote
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 03:16 AM
Feb 2020

It was a pretty big distortion.

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badhair77

(4,216 posts)
33. Quick question - did Pete reference cartoons more than once
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 07:00 AM
Feb 2020

on the trail? If so he may have framed it slightly differently each time. Not taking sides here.

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madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
35. I am really saddened by this.
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 07:39 AM
Feb 2020

That was flat out wrong of her. She needs to apologize. She twisted Pete’s comment intentionally. I am sick of this kind of this kind of politics.

Boo on you, Amy.

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Celerity

(43,330 posts)
38. no, a complete out of context chop job by Klobuchar
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 02:22 PM
Feb 2020

his words




nice snide

Not enough 'sizzle' for lil Pete


remark as well

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